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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:16 PM ET
Things change.

Plenty of players have signed long term deals with the intention of playing in their respected teams for the duration of the contract only to be traded a year or two later. It happens and could happen to Nylander.

- Santo_44


Sure it could, could happen to any one, Matthews as well.. Doesn't mean it actually will though.. Players that out-perform their contracts are generally not traded. If they are, it's for far more value than what they offer.

If CBJ offered Jones and Werenski, I think Dubas would apologize to Nylander as he told him about the trade.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:18 PM ET
Sure it could, could happen to any one, Matthews as well.. Doesn't mean it actually will though.. Players that out-perform their contracts are generally not traded. If they are, it's for far more value than what they offer.

If CBJ offered Jones and Werenski, I think Dubas would apologize to Nylander as he told him about the trade.

- PatC80


"I'm sorry Willy but come on.... IT'S (frank)ING SETH JONES HERE!"
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:19 PM ET
"I'm sorry Willy but come on.... IT'S (frank)ING SETH JONES HERE!"
- Scabeh

Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Oct 18 @ 3:20 PM ET
"I'm sorry Willy but come on.... IT'S (frank)ING SETH JONES HERE!"
- Scabeh


I'm not sure a reasonably signed Willy would get you Seth Jones. But a reasonably signed Marner might! Maybe Marner is the one who needs to be worried. Better demand more than he's worth!
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
I honestly cannot see him staying in Toronto after "losing" a year after a contract dispute.
- Scabeh


Dude, he is still leafs property. At some point, he signs, or is traded, or he sits at home wasting away his career.

If another team offer-sheets him too much, they let him walk for picks. If some team offer-sheets him a fair deal, the Leafs match.

As people keep saying, this is the only time in a player's career where the team has the control.
GalacticStone
Tampa Bay Lightning
Location: U Jealous of my Meteor
Joined: 01.29.2013

Oct 18 @ 3:21 PM ET
I wish they would realign the league and put the Leafs and Bolts in opposite conferences.

I really want to root for you guys, but your team is starting to scare the poop out of me.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 18 @ 3:24 PM ET
I wish they would realign the league and put the Leafs and Bolts in opposite conferences.

I really want to root for you guys, but your team is starting to scare the poop out of me.

- GalacticStone


The stupid playoff system is going to (frank) someone in the Atlantic again, probably the Leafs
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 18 @ 3:27 PM ET
From my understanding, you cannot give a NMC to a player on his 2nd professional contract.

I could easily be wrong about this.

And I was only saying that's all he could do if getting traded is something that worries Nylander.

- Scabeh


I think you are right - but I seem to recall that long term deals can have limited no movement clause kick in for years signed beyond age 27 - not sure though.

and I was messing with you, I'm sure Bergy told PK he wouldn't trade him. " just sign here"
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
The stupid playoff system is going to (frank) someone in the Atlantic again, probably the Tampax Bay Lightning
- Aetherial


Fixed
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:28 PM ET
I think you are right - but I seem to recall that long term deals can have limited no movement clause kick in for years signed beyond age 27 - not sure though.

and I was messing with you, I'm sure Bergy told PK he wouldn't trade him. " just sign here"

- winsix


Bergy messed up the PK contract. Shouldn't have bridged him.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:30 PM ET
I wish they would realign the league and put the Leafs and Bolts in opposite conferences.

I really want to root for you guys, but your team is starting to scare the poop out of me.

- GalacticStone


I liked the old system. Three divisions, but the one thing I'd switch is that the division winner is guaranteed a playoff spot, not a top 3.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:31 PM ET
Trade Nylander for Parayko. St. Louis needs scoring.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:32 PM ET
Bergy messed up the PK contract. Shouldn't have bridged him.
- PatC80


Indeed.

Imagine the return we would have received for a 6M P.K. Subban.

Something like... Weber and a 2nd!!
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:32 PM ET
Trade Nylander for Parayko. St. Louis needs scoring.
- aminnes


St-Louis needs a goaltender and 8 hours of sleep per night for Pietrangelo.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 18 @ 3:37 PM ET
Bergy messed up the PK contract. Shouldn't have bridged him.
- PatC80


Bridge contracts can be great for teams - worked for Jets with Trouba - twice (and he's still under Jets' control) worked for the Tampons too for Kucherov . The best so far was probably the two by four that Lionel Ritchie got up the hoop last night with a 3 year bridge for $1.6 a year
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
Indeed.

Imagine the return we would have received for a 6M P.K. Subban.

Something like... Weber and a 2nd!!

- Scabeh


Or you could have kept him? That would also have been an option
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 18 @ 3:42 PM ET
I liked the old system. Three divisions, but the one thing I'd switch is that the division winner is guaranteed a playoff spot, not a top 3.
- david22

????

The NHL has never had three divisions.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
????

The NHL has never had three divisions.

- Atomic Wedgie


I think there was, in 1919. Although, I could be wrong.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 18 @ 3:44 PM ET
I wish they would realign the league and put the Leafs and Bolts in opposite conferences.

I really want to root for you guys, but your team is starting to scare the poop out of me.

- GalacticStone

If you are ever really bored (for instance, fun game to play in an airport waiting area), try to re-align the NHL into better divisions.

You can't really do it.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Oct 18 @ 3:45 PM ET
????

The NHL has never had three divisions.

- Atomic Wedgie


Per conference I should say.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:46 PM ET
If you are ever really bored (for instance, fun game to play in an airport waiting area), try to re-align the NHL into better divisions.

You can't really do it.

- Atomic Wedgie



Toronto
Arizona
Buffalo
Carolina
Detroit
Edmonton
NY Rangers
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:47 PM ET
Or you could have kept him? That would also have been an option
- PatC80


Nah, he didn't have the right #attitude and he kept putting the music way too loud which pissed off Pacioretty.


I miss him.

I do love Weber though.

But I miss Subban.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 18 @ 3:52 PM ET
Nah, he didn't have the right #attitude and he kept putting the music way too loud which pissed of Pacioretty.


I miss him.

I do love Weber though.

But I miss Subban.

- Scabeh


really?

Huh? Good thing you traded both then.
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 18 @ 3:53 PM ET
Nah, he didn't have the right #attitude and he kept putting the music way too loud which pissed off Pacioretty.


I miss him.

I do love Weber though.

But I miss Subban.

- Scabeh


PK's doing ok.... He's dating Lindsey Vonn...But her favourite team remains Chicago


Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
PK's doing ok.... He's dating Lindsey Vonn...But her favourite team remains Chicago



- winsix


P.K. was a perfect fit in Montreal.

He just wasn't a perfect fit in his lockeroom I guess.

I'm happy for him, he looks well in Nashville.
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