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plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Oct 17 @ 3:38 PM ET
But you can keep your 22 year olds, so (frank) the 40 year old, he can (frank) off and keep the young guys who still have 1000 games ahead of them. In no universe is Marleau's 6 million better spent on Marleau than on Nylander.
- Unholy_Goalie


Marleau is still the 2nd best LW on this team after Hyman, and Leafs have a lot of young guys who were given a chance.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Oct 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Marleau is still the 2nd best LW on this team after Hyman, and Leafs have a lot of young guys who were given a chance.
- plantheparade


Wingers can usually play either wing, it's not a big deal for most of them. Leivo was playing LW for the start of the season, then they moved him to RW on the 4th line. Kapanen could play LW if needed. Nylander could probably do it too. The differences between LW and RW is minor and most of the wingers they have could switch.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
I was trying to emulate some dumbass comments that people make about Dubas in a cheeky way by trying to highlight the contradictions people make in their arguments on a regular basis. *ahem max

In general, I like that Dubas is being hard-nosed in his first negotiation. Can't give everyone everything.

- TheMussel

Emulation is the highest form of masturbation.

Errr


I may have that incorrect
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
Dont be ridiculous.

We dont play until Thursday

:p

- Fakepartofme


Well players can still injure themselves when not playing.

Look at Rask cutting his hand with a knife or Sakic injuring himself with his snowblower.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
Take any top player from any top team and they will suffer. Using an injury is a lame excuse, especially when it'd be Tavares filling the void, followed by Marner and Kadri.
- Unholy_Goalie

Id rather have nylander on the top line if matthews were down than kap.
Right now.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
I was trying to emulate some dumbass comments that people make about Dubas in a cheeky way by trying to highlight the contradictions people make in their arguments on a regular basis. *ahem max

In general, I like that Dubas is being hard-nosed in his first negotiation. Can't give everyone everything.

- TheMussel


It's almost as if people don't know you despite you being a loser on this site since 2013!
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
But you can keep your 22 year olds, so (frank) the 40 year old, he can (frank) off and keep the young guys who still have 1000 games ahead of them. In no universe is Marleau's 6 million better spent on Marleau than on Nylander.
- Unholy_Goalie

You can still keep your 22 year old, just pay him whats hes worth...not what he (his dad) thinks he is
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
You can still keep your 22 year old, just pay him whats hes worth...not what he (his dad) thinks he is
- Fakepartofme

Amen.

Marleau has nothing to do with Nylander's contract.

Whether we have $10 million in cap space or $100 million in cap space, Nylander should not get $8 millly per year.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 17 @ 3:51 PM ET
Amen.

Marleau has nothing to do with Nylander's contract.

Whether we have $10 million in cap space or $100 million in cap space, Nylander should not get $8 millly per year.

- Atomic Wedgie


Willy wants his millys.

Hue hue hue....
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 17 @ 3:57 PM ET
It's almost as if people don't know you despite you being a loser on this site since 2013!
- Scabeh


It's amazing what five years of frequenting a website to raise one's sense of self-worth through comparative reflection does to a man.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 17 @ 4:01 PM ET
It's amazing what five years of frequenting a website to raise one's sense of self-worth through comparative reflection does to a man.
- TheMussel


Wait until you hit the big 10.

This one really stings.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
It was always gonna be a bridgeroo
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 17 @ 4:08 PM ET
Id rather have nylander on the top line if matthews were down than kap.
Right now.

- Fakepartofme



Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander


GG opposition defenders.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Oct 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
I was trying to emulate some dumbass comments that people make about Dubas in a cheeky way by trying to highlight the contradictions people make in their arguments on a regular basis. *ahem max

In general, I like that Dubas is being hard-nosed in his first negotiation. Can't give everyone everything.

- TheMussel

Well I understood it and found it funny if that's any consolation
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 17 @ 4:13 PM ET
Kapanen-Matthews-Nylander


GG opposition defenders.

- Steven_Seagull

I would be interested in seeing that for a game or 2.

Marleau back with kadri and put one of lindholm or brown on the 4th.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Oct 17 @ 4:21 PM ET
Amen.

Marleau has nothing to do with Nylander's contract.

Whether we have $10 million in cap space or $100 million in cap space, Nylander should not get $8 millly per year.

- Atomic Wedgie



and there you have it...

Nylander - by any objective measure is not worth more than Pastrnak. Pastrnak signed for 5 or 6 years at 6.66

therefore all the blathering that Lebrun(in particular) and Dreger, yadda yadda yadda have done, Button saying he would sign him if he was still a GM to an 8x8 contract is all just noise.

I hope that GM HarryPotter will now offer 4 years at 5M and let Nylander stew. Give him one or possibly (at most) two offers, one shorter term and then a mid-range offer, and if he isn't signed by November 9th... start the auction.

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 17 @ 4:26 PM ET
Well I understood it and found it funny if that's any consolation
- walshyleafsfan


Thank you Walshy, that means a lot coming from a Nucks fan
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Oct 17 @ 4:29 PM ET
Money deposited to Swiss account to be transferred to M nylander $8 mil

Willy signs $6.3mil for 8 years
We are all happy

Just dreaming not really true.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Oct 17 @ 4:34 PM ET
Do we think that Florida would trade us Huberdeau (5.9m LW) for Nylander 🤔

He is struggling currently (aka buy low)
winsix
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine
Joined: 04.03.2016

Oct 17 @ 4:38 PM ET
I was trying to emulate some dumbass comments that people make about Dubas in a cheeky way by trying to highlight the contradictions people make in their arguments on a regular basis. *ahem max

In general, I like that Dubas is being hard-nosed in his first negotiation. Can't give everyone everything.

- TheMussel


More a case of reality than being a hard-ass here. He's worth between $6 and $6.6 on a long term deal. Everyone is assuming that the only sticking point is money - we don't know that for certain. I'm pretty sure he really wants to stay with the Leafs. If he signs a deal with no NTC attached for a team friendly amount he will be the player mostly likely to be moved. If Dubas gets him at a good number, I will be as happy as when they moved Phaneuf with no salary retained. A bridge deal gets them past the Marleau deal.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 17 @ 4:44 PM ET
Money deposited to Swiss account to be transferred to M nylander $8 mil

Willy signs $6.3mil for 8 years
We are all happy

Just dreaming not really true.

- BreathLeafs2015

Pay his dad $2m a year to be a swedish scout but never require him to do any actual work. Get pops on their side lol
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Oct 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
Pay his dad $2m a year to be a swedish scout but never require him to do any actual work. Get pops on their side lol
- daeth


Ah, a Yashin clause.

Bold strategy, I like it.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Oct 17 @ 4:46 PM ET
More a case of reality than being a hard-ass here. He's worth between $6 and $6.6 on a long term deal. Everyone is assuming that the only sticking point is money - we don't know that for certain. I'm pretty sure he really wants to stay with the Leafs. If he signs a deal with no NTC attached for a team friendly amount he will be the player mostly likely to be moved. If Dubas gets him at a good number, I will be as happy as when they moved Phaneuf with no salary retained. A bridge deal gets them past the Marleau deal.
- winsix

Cap space is like the most important thing for a contender though. Get him on a good deal and he's virtually untouchable for the leafs. The higher the deal the more likely he will have to be moved. Same with a bridge deal. If he signs a bridge deal and dominates he's as good as gone once it's done.

Edit: Imo of course. Not being UG here and saying I'm definitely right lol
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 17 @ 4:53 PM ET
More a case of reality than being a hard-ass here. He's worth between $6 and $6.6 on a long term deal. Everyone is assuming that the only sticking point is money - we don't know that for certain. I'm pretty sure he really wants to stay with the Leafs. If he signs a deal with no NTC attached for a team friendly amount he will be the player mostly likely to be moved. If Dubas gets him at a good number, I will be as happy as when they moved Phaneuf with no salary retained. A bridge deal gets them past the Marleau deal.
- winsix

He wants a clause in his contract that he's never less than the 3rd prettiest member of the team.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Oct 17 @ 4:58 PM ET
Well players can still injure themselves when not playing.

Look at Rask cutting his hand with a knife or Sakic injuring himself with his snowblower.

- Scabeh

Dustin Penner - pancakes
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