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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 15 @ 10:19 PM ET
If that was the deal, I doubt it is now. It isn't so much that Kapanen has proven to be effective SO FAR, it is also that Matthews and Marner are making themselves more valuable, pretty much every game.
- Aetherial

It's probably down to 5.5M now
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 15 @ 10:20 PM ET
sure will need a lot of Richards for that to happen...
- 21peter


No doubt
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:20 PM ET
Kap deserves more credit.

Babs needs to give it to him too, he’s more than a Zach Hyman type player...but maybe Babs is just saying that to get him going.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 15 @ 10:20 PM ET
Phil doesn't give a (frank). Why would he?

Dion cares though.

- Unholy_Goalie

Phils too worried about this.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:20 PM ET
No, it was pretty accurate. LA dominated a lot of the offensive zone, they just lack finishing ability. It would be ideal if the Leafs played like LA to take the pressure off their D and goalie and with their deadly shooters, they'd score even more than they already do.
- Unholy_Goalie


The only reason LA "dominated" is because the Leafs offense, so far at least, does not play a possession game in the offensive zone.

The Leafs were also playing with the lead almost the whole game.

... and for all that "domination", the LA goalie came up with as many big saves as I saw from Sparks.

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:21 PM ET
If that was the deal, I doubt it is now. It isn't so much that Kapanen has proven to be effective SO FAR, it is also that Matthews and Marner are making themselves more valuable, pretty much every game.
- Aetherial

I'm guessing you're pretty much spot on.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
Kap deserves more credit.

Babs needs to give it to him too, he’s more than a Zach Hyman type player...but maybe Babs is just saying that to get him going.

- Santo_44


See Babs go give him the pat on the back after that head down hustle to try to negate the icing

Marleau giving him a push was pretty funny.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
The only reason LA "dominated" is because the Leafs offense, so far at least, does not play a possession game in the offensive zone.

The Leafs were also playing with the lead almost the whole game.

... and for all that "domination", the LA goalie came up with as many big saves as I saw from Sparks.

- Aetherial


And I'm saying they should be.

Campbell sucked. He let in two joke goals, the 1st one and the Marleau PP goal was a laugher. If they had Quick, that's a lot closer, 2-1 type game.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
If that was the deal, I doubt it is now. It isn't so much that Kapanen has proven to be effective SO FAR, it is also that Matthews and Marner are making themselves more valuable, pretty much every game.
- Aetherial


The more Kappy proves he can take that spot. And if Pastrnak keeps lighting it up which he will. It's only going to hurt Nylander more and more. Guy needs to sign ASAP
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:22 PM ET
well we don't know what the deal actually was, but yeah, I bet the situation is not getting better for him day to day. I seriously doubt Dubas is increasing his offer, either long term or on a bridge deal.
- Aetherial

The only thing that is increasing is the interest in trading him for a D.

Kap is good...plenty of talent on the wing in the rental market this year if they really end up needing a guy.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
And I'm saying they should be.

Campbell sucked. He let in two joke goals, the 1st one and the Marleau PP goal was a laugher. If they had Quick, that's a lot closer, 2-1 type game.

- Unholy_Goalie




Not with me, UG.

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
Holy (frank) dude what more do you need to see? A shutout? Sparks scoring a empty net goal? He played well tonight and was there to bail out his defense a few times.
- Wissler



He’s as bad as UG. Once he has an opinion he refuses to change it regardless of the facts.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
The only reason LA "dominated" is because the Leafs offense, so far at least, does not play a possession game in the offensive zone.

The Leafs were also playing with the lead almost the whole game.

... and for all that "domination", the LA goalie came up with as many big saves as I saw from Sparks.

- Aetherial


I saw an even game where the Leafs won 4-1.
People overanlyze hockey way too much
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
I'm guessing you're pretty much spot on.
- 21peter

Agreed. Probably dropping daily
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 15 @ 10:23 PM ET
Kap deserves more credit.

Babs needs to give it to him too, he’s more than a Zach Hyman type player...but maybe Babs is just saying that to get him going.

- Santo_44


Babs just meant he wants him to play like Hyman without the puck, grinding in the corners and what not. Thats all he meant by that comment. Kapanen's hockey IQ and play making abilities are far better than Hyman's.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 15 @ 10:25 PM ET
I saw an even game where the Leafs won 4-1.
People overanlyze hockey way too much

- Santo_44

LA outplayed us for like 10 minutes. It's important to focus on that 10 minutes only
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:25 PM ET


Not with me, UG.

- Aetherial

Just laugh and don’t respond
celinedionpha9
Joined: 02.13.2015

Oct 15 @ 10:26 PM ET
Willie should have taken a deal by now. He is missing out. The problem is how we view him and how he views himself.

The way I see it, we are similar to the Pittsburgh model.

If Matthews and Tavares and Rielly are like our versions of Crosby, Malkin and Letang. That leaves Kessel. Who is our Kessel? Willie thinks its him, but its really Marner, so Willie is pretty much our James Neal. He isn’t worth as much as the other guys. Good guy to have, but jumps ship for more money elsewhere. Someone will pay him. Won’t be us though. We will package him and Gardiner for a good right handed defenseman to play with Rielly.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:27 PM ET
See Babs go give him the pat on the back after that head down hustle to try to negate the icing

Marleau giving him a push was pretty funny.

- Aetherial

He’s playing himself into a top 6 forward worthy potential.

And lol, he has enough speed he didn’t need help
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:27 PM ET
Agreed. Probably dropping daily
- PatC80

yup
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 15 @ 10:28 PM ET
LA outplayed us for like 10 minutes. It's important to focus on that 10 minutes only
- PatC80

exactly
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 15 @ 10:28 PM ET
Willie should have taken a deal by now. He is missing out. The problem is how we view him and how he views himself.

The way I see it, we are similar to the Pittsburgh model.

If Matthews and Tavares and Rielly are like our versions of Crosby, Malkin and Letang. That leaves Kessel. Who is our Kessel? Willie thinks its him, but its really Marner, so Willie is pretty much our James Neal. He isn’t worth as much as the other guys. Good guy to have, but jumps ship for more money elsewhere. Someone will pay him. Won’t be us though. We will package him and Gardiner for a good right handed defenseman to play with Rielly.

- celinedionpha9

Nylander might be a top 2 -3 forward on some teams but here he is our 4th, maybe 5th best forward.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:30 PM ET
He’s as bad as UG. Once he has an opinion he refuses to change it regardless of the facts.
- Steven_Seagull


Pot meet kettle.
Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 15 @ 10:30 PM ET
exactly
- Santo_44

One of the only games I fealt comfortable the entire game, so far.
Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON
Joined: 08.23.2006

Oct 15 @ 10:31 PM ET
Nylander might be a top 2 -3 forward on some teams but here he is our 4th, maybe 5th best forward.
- PatC80


Expendable the day Tavares signed.

Sign, play, raise value, trade for a RHD.
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