Never really known as a "singles" band, except in their very earliest days. Still one of my fave all time groups!

For some reason reply off again...Big E

Howard Stern does a great interview with Daltry.
He tells some great stories of the early days and some great Keith Moon stories about horse tranquilizers and a fan coming onstage to play drums cause Moon was so high.
And one time they get thrown in jail for kicking a fire marshall in the nuts...The Who were the original "Punk Rockers
- Konalover

Absolutely, they and Keith Richards were the only Brit invasion guys the punks respected.

His return will be interesting. Are we gonna carry him?
- SuperSchennBros

What they will probably do is send him down to the Phantoms for the max amount of condition time allowed at the end of Jan or early Feb. After that, due to roster constraints he'll likely stay on IR until after the trade deadline when they can expand the roster. I expect he gets into a few games towards the end of the season.

I agree with this. Realistically there were at most maybe 16 forwards and 8 D with a legit shot to make the roster. Lines could have been set earlier and given more time to jell.
- BiggE

I don't think it's a big deal. A lot of the guys have played several years together and lines change pretty often. Use the same lines all through training camp and then JVR and Patrick go down...so then what?

I don't remember seeing Laughton Lehtera and Raffl together much and they've looked fine. Provorov and Ghost surely have spent plenty of time together. Just think they haven't played well.

I don't think it's a big deal. A lot of the guys have played several years together and lines change pretty often. Use the same lines all through training camp and then JVR and Patrick go down...so then what?

I don't remember seeing Laughton Lehtera and Raffl together much and they've looked fine. Provorov and Ghost surely have spent plenty of time together. Just think they haven't played well.
- YuenglingJagr

Yeah, all in all, it's probably not a big deal.

I don't think it's a big deal. A lot of the guys have played several years together and lines change pretty often. Use the same lines all through training camp and then JVR and Patrick go down...so then what?

I don't remember seeing Laughton Lehtera and Raffl together much and they've looked fine. Provorov and Ghost surely have spent plenty of time together. Just think they haven't played well.
- YuenglingJagr

The extended time for the kids is reflective of the position of the team league wide. How many of their lines were stone locks at the start of camp? Even the top line didn't make it intact through 5 games. When you have that much flux in the top 9 you're going to look at the options a little longer. It's due diligence.

What they will probably do is send him down to the Phantoms for the max amount of condition time allowed at the end of Jan or early Feb. After that, due to roster constraints he'll likely stay on IR until after the trade deadline when they can expand the roster. I expect he gets into a few games towards the end of the season.
- BiggE

I hope you’re right.

This has been on my mind for a while and I thought the same thing last season. I'd be interested in other's opinion. I don't know if it is Hextall or Hasktol but I think the Flyers spend too much time looking at a lot of players in training camp and not enough time getting lines and the roster set to try and develop more chemistry in camp. Rather than waiting until the season to try and get going. I'd like to see decision made faster, and more time given to the actual roster for the season to try and hit the ground running at the start of the season.
- MJL

I agree with this. Especially in light of how little actual "camp" time is available because they have them playing so many preseason games. 4 in 4 nights was absolutely ridiculous.

But I guess, because of this, they are forced to keep people around much longer than they probably normally would simply because they need the bodies.

Good of you to point this out. It is not Hak’s fault that timing is not perfect.

Really glad that Lindblom is okay. Laughton is shining and also great that he is okay. I think Hägg is showing some improvement too.
- NC Flyers Fan

Hagg reads hockey buzz reviews and he was not happy with the negative press he was receiving around here in pre season.

What is your obsession with Vorobyev being on the 2nd PP Unit?
- ajw12

He’s not good on it.

This has been on my mind for a while and I thought the same thing last season. I'd be interested in other's opinion. I don't know if it is Hextall or Hasktol but I think the Flyers spend too much time looking at a lot of players in training camp and not enough time getting lines and the roster set to try and develop more chemistry in camp. Rather than waiting until the season to try and get going. I'd like to see decision made faster, and more time given to the actual roster for the season to try and hit the ground running at the start of the season.
- MJL

My guess is Hakstol because he’s the head coach, as well as at ice level. I could be wrong. I agree completely. The Patrick, Voracek and JvR were supposed to be our second line. They never played a single pre season get together as a line. Suddenly Hakstol felt Patrick and Lindblom had better chemistry together. Based on what though? Practice? The games they didn’t play together?

My guess is Hakstol because he’s the head coach, as well as at ice level. I could be wrong. I agree completely. The Patrick, Voracek and JvR were supposed to be our second line. They never played a single pre season get together as a line. Suddenly Hakstol felt Patrick and Lindblom had better chemistry together. Based on what though? Practice? The games they didn’t play together?
- SuperSchennBros

Probably because Patrick and Lindblom showed good chemistry down the stretch last season.

Hagg reads hockey buzz reviews and he was not happy with the negative press he was receiving around here in pre season.
- SuperSchennBros

Yes, just the right extra motivation he was missing.

Regarding the lines in training camp and the preseason lineup...I am not sure that it would have really helped. Obviously you don’t want your NHL players taking risks.
It is hard to account for slow starts/slumps or injuries. Also, Knight wasn’t really on my radar until I saw him play more. Not sure if bubble players would get as great a look without the more competitive way it was run. In short, I’m okay with it.

He’s not good on it.
- SuperSchennBros

It's been 5 games and he's averaging about 2 and a half minutes on the power play per game, let's relax here.

He's far from the reason the second unit isn't producing

The only issue I have with this would be if a kid like Misha breaks down the door how do you slot him in a line earlier in camp. I really think they had lines ready at the beginning of camp and then JvR had no chemistry with Patrick and Jake and Misha broke the door down and it changed 2 lines right there. Then they decided to load up after the JvR injury. It's not that they didn't try to do it. It's that they had things change during camp and weeks 1 and 2.
- dragonoffrost

i think the point is more about kids like Twarynski and friedman getting longer looks even tho they weren't making the team

He will get a rehab stint and then be called up when rosters expand.
- jaws1955

I'm no rules expert but pretty sure the rehap stint isn't more than 3 games

I'm no rules expert but pretty sure the rehap stint isn't more than 3 games
- nastyflyergirl

two weeks...so 5 or 6 games roughly

The extended time for the kids is reflective of the position of the team league wide. How many of their lines were stone locks at the start of camp? Even the top line didn't make it intact through 5 games. When you have that much flux in the top 9 you're going to look at the options a little longer. It's due diligence.
- mayorofangrytown

I see that as a symptom of the issue of what I brought up rather than the cause of it

My hope is we see the same narrative when Morin comes back and gets some time on the third pair.
- juiced

There is the potential there. He is built for 2nd or 3rd pair and PK duties. Hoping he gets healthy and adds to the D core.

I agree with this. Especially in light of how little actual "camp" time is available because they have them playing so many preseason games. 4 in 4 nights was absolutely ridiculous.

But I guess, because of this, they are forced to keep people around much longer than they probably normally would simply because they need the bodies.
- MBFlyerfan

That's a good point that I didn't consider.

It's been 5 games and he's averaging about 2 and a half minutes on the power play per game, let's relax here.

He's far from the reason the second unit isn't producing
- ajw12

Yes and there have been players on this roster who have a better offensive touch so far this season. Vorobyev has also been a dear in headlights on two shorted handed goals as the last man back.

His return will be interesting. Are we gonna carry him?
- SuperSchennBros

They need to carry him or lose him. Once he comes off IR he can do a couple weeks in the AHL as a conditioning stint then he needs to be held onto. They aren’t going to lose him for nothing.

They need to carry him or lose him. Once he comes off IR he can do a couple weeks in the AHL as a conditioning stint then he needs to be held onto. They aren’t going to lose him for nothing.
- peesinwind

they'll carry him for sure. doubtful the Flyers will have 3 healthy goalies by then and quite possibly wont have 7 healthy defensemen either

Yes and there have been players on this roster who have a better offensive touch so far this season. Vorobyev has also been a dear in headlights on two shorted handed goals as the last man back.
- SuperSchennBros

Yea, I'm gonna give the kid a bit more of a chance before I write his offensive upside off

This has been on my mind for a while and I thought the same thing last season. I'd be interested in other's opinion. I don't know if it is Hextall or Hasktol but I think the Flyers spend too much time looking at a lot of players in training camp and not enough time getting lines and the roster set to try and develop more chemistry in camp. Rather than waiting until the season to try and get going. I'd like to see decision made faster, and more time given to the actual roster for the season to try and hit the ground running at the start of the season.
- MJL

This is what happens when there isnt enough talent on your team due to plugs like Weisse and Jori Cocaine

they'll carry him for sure. doubtful the Flyers will have 3 healthy goalies by then and quite possibly wont have 7 healthy defensemen either
- YuenglingJagr

For real. So true. The trade deadline is going to be interesting. Opertunity to get something for players that can be upgraded by up and coming players. If we are playoff bound it is hard to send away a vet even if you have don’t have enough slots. But your right. Injuries are sure to be an issue. We can’t ecen get out of the second week without issues (or training camp for that matter).