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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 15 @ 11:53 AM ET
Why did he fall so far? I know a lot of drafts had him in the top 20. He might be ready for you guys once Boychuk's contract is up in 2035.
- mdw7413

Gotta make sure Mayfield gets his 39th chance to stick on the roster first.

He's got elite offense/skating but I think there is a ton left to be desired on the defensive side of the puck for him. He plays really physical defensively but I think he makes a lot of questionable decisions that lead to lowlight-reel plays for him. I think there was also some "character" questions because he decommitted from Michigan and decided to go to the OHL which, frankly, was probably the right decision.

If he can play passable defense in the NHL he could still be a really good player. His rushes are unreal.

https://twitter.com/corey...tatus/1051621339906347009
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
Gotta make sure Mayfield gets his 39th chance to stick on the roster first.

He's got elite offense/skating but I think there is a ton left to be desired on the defensive side of the puck for him. He plays really physical defensively but I think he makes a lot of questionable decisions that lead to lowlight-reel plays for him. I think there was also some "character" questions because he decommitted from Michigan and decided to go to the OHL which, frankly, was probably the right decision.

If he can play passable defense in the NHL he could still be a really good player. His rushes are unreal.

https://twitter.com/corey...tatus/1051621339906347009

- eichiefs9


Well the fact that the league seems to be going for much more offensive minded defenseman will help his cause.

Its funny how much that position has changed probably more than any other except goaltending since I have been watching. A team was lucky if they had 2 defenseman that where very good offensively. Now its like you need 3 or 4
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 15 @ 12:05 PM ET
Cyrgalis hinting at Buch being scratched for McLeod. Amazing.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
Well the fact that the league seems to be going for much more offensive minded defenseman will help his cause.

Its funny how much that position has changed probably more than any other except goaltending since I have been watching. A team was lucky if they had 2 defenseman that where very good offensively. Now its like you need 3 or 4

- mdw7413

Yeah, defense has changed a ton. The 6'6" stay-at-home guys are dead and size is far less important. I don't even think offensive production is as important as skating is. Guys that are solid in the skating/speed departments and can exit the zone with control of the puck make transition games killer for opponents to deal with.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 15 @ 12:06 PM ET
https://twitter.com/drose.../1051865668851826688?s=19

What a world. Tell me this team isn't trying to lose games. I love it.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Oct 15 @ 12:07 PM ET
Quinn is older, he can't be on that team?

Wait, I'm talking about the US team, You are talking about Michigan

- mdw7413


Jack played for the US U18 in that game on Friday. Obviously Quinn plays for Michigan.

I haven't seen much of Jack yet Matt, so not totally sure on your question. The US program is based out of Plymouth, so definitely going to check him out at some point.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Oct 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
https://twitter.com/drosennhl/status/1051865668851826688?s=19

What a world. Tell me this team isn't trying to lose games. I love it.

- tomburton99


It's message sending.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 15 @ 12:18 PM ET
Yeah, defense has changed a ton. The 6'6" stay-at-home guys are dead and size is far less important. I don't even think offensive production is as important as skating is. Guys that are solid in the skating/speed departments and can exit the zone with control of the puck make transition games killer for opponents to deal with.
- eichiefs9


Yeah good point, maybe not so much points as skating and puck handling
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 15 @ 12:18 PM ET
Jack played for the US U18 in that game on Friday. Obviously Quinn plays for Michigan.

I haven't seen much of Jack yet Matt, so not totally sure on your question. The US program is based out of Plymouth, so definitely going to check him out at some point.

- Pete V


Thanks Pete. I will expect a detailed report no later than Jan 1st
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Oct 15 @ 12:20 PM ET
Thanks Pete. I will expect a detailed report no later than Jan 1st
- mdw7413


Tom is better situated to give you that. He's breaking down film in his basement as we speak.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 12:20 PM ET
It's message sending.
- Pete V


if the Rangers lose tomorrow, this season gonna really start look like this

mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
https://twitter.com/drosennhl/status/1051865668851826688?s=19

What a world. Tell me this team isn't trying to lose games. I love it.

- tomburton99


Buch been pretty invisible again lately. I have no issue with it. Its not like we lose the cup if Buch gets benched.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Oct 15 @ 12:23 PM ET
Tom is better situated to give you that. He's breaking down film in his basement as we speak.

- Pete V


Tom is bipolar, he wants to lose, but gets mad when the team ices a bad lineup.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Oct 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
if the Rangers lose tomorrow, this season gonna really start look like this


- jimbro83

How can a season look erotic
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Oct 15 @ 12:29 PM ET
if the Rangers lose tomorrow, this season gonna really start look like this


- jimbro83


No doubt. I was rooting for them to win pretty hard on Saturday. I have no interest in giving up on the season 15 games in, but who knows, that may happen.
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Oct 15 @ 12:30 PM ET
Tom is bipolar, he wants to lose, but gets mad when the team ices a bad lineup.
- mdw7413


When it's game five of the season, and you are already hoping that the Rangers lose and certain other supposedly poopty teams in the league win, that's a bit much (and more than a little annoying).
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
Tom is bipolar, he wants to lose, but gets mad when the team ices a bad lineup.
- mdw7413

No. Don't tell the Rangers are trying to win when McLeod is in the line up. Av did the same thing and it was part of why he was fired.

Stop the facade and just say we don't want to win.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 15 @ 12:32 PM ET
https://twitter.com/drosennhl/status/1051865668851826688?s=19

What a world. Tell me this team isn't trying to lose games. I love it.

- tomburton99



Why in the world do I EVER look at the comments on these things?!?!?!?
What a bunch of idiots we have for fans.
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Oct 15 @ 12:35 PM ET
if the Rangers lose tomorrow, this season gonna really start look like this


- jimbro83


Lol. This season is going to look like it's sponging off it's brother??? I'm confused.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 12:36 PM ET
Lol. This season is going to look like it's sponging off it's brother??? I'm confused.
- Tonybere


just really really ugly

really ugly
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 15 @ 12:42 PM ET
Why in the world do I EVER look at the comments on these things?!?!?!?
What a bunch of idiots we have for fans.

- Tonybere



Yeah, don't do that.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Oct 15 @ 12:43 PM ET
Yeah, don't do that.
- JRR1285


it's amazing how many people still want to argue about AV, pro or con

it's over
JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Oct 15 @ 12:46 PM ET
it's amazing how many people still want to argue about AV, pro or con

it's over

- jimbro83



Maskdman3
New York Rangers
Location: Gotham City, NY
Joined: 02.16.2007

Oct 15 @ 1:58 PM ET
I love the idea of accountability. Under AV we questioned their compete level more often than not. My fear is that guys getting scratched or benched for a mistake takes us back to players like Buch being afraid to be creative or always looking over their shoulder.

I don't think we are there yet and I have a lot more confidence in Quinn than AV
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Oct 15 @ 2:03 PM ET
I love the idea of accountability. Under AV we questioned their compete level more often than not. My fear is that guys getting scratched or benched for a mistake takes us back to players like Buch being afraid to be creative or always looking over their shoulder.

I don't think we are there yet and I have a lot more confidence in Quinn than AV

- Maskdman3



This guy seems to be void of any.
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