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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 12 @ 8:46 PM ET
Financial security for his family!? He probably has over $48 Mil on the table.......and the extra is going to help with that security!? Uh, yeah ok. Bottom line, he can ask what he wants, he just has to realize he will price himself out of Toronto, and I think most Leaf fans are ok with that, if it’s the case. On another note, I really don’t think there is a team in the league that will give him over $8Mil.......not a chance.
- Bullot


The Leafs are better with Nylander signed than what they would get in a trade.

But it may have to be that way.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Oct 12 @ 8:48 PM ET
Honestly man, if a player wants to squeeze more out of their team, I can't fault him for it. I think I would personally be fine with accepting less to keep a team together, but I've never stared at a piece of paper that states I'm willing to forgo millions of dollars.
- BetterCallSaul

I wonder how much Nylander is considering his legacy if they win a cup in Toronto. He'll be forever in the hearts of Leafs fans, and that can be turned into $ later in life.. If he goes to some poopty team like ARI for a million more a year would it be worth it?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 12 @ 8:52 PM ET
Honestly man, if a player wants to squeeze more out of their team, I can't fault him for it. I think I would personally be fine with accepting less to keep a team together, but I've never stared at a piece of paper that states I'm willing to forgo millions of dollars.
- BetterCallSaul


Lebrun said today he may fear getting traded...if he takes less and someone offers Dubas a #1 D next year because Nylander scored PPG with a 6x6 contract. That would be hard to turn down.

Then Willie just took less to play for a worse team.

Willies dad was traded 5 tines in his career....and twice in one year.

I’m sure he is telling his son that the NHL is a business and you can get traded at any time.

Panarin signs a two year deal with the Hawks expecting to be with them and Saad signs 6 yeas with the Jackets only to be traded 2 seasons after signing the contract. Because why the (frank) would the CBJ turn down Panarin?
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 12 @ 8:57 PM ET
Lebrun said today he may fear getting traded...if he takes less and someone offers Dubas a #1 D next year because Nylander scored PPG with a 6x6 contract. That would be hard to turn down.

Then Willie just took less to play for a worse team.

Willies dad was traded 5 tines in his career....and twice in one year.

I’m sure he is telling his son that the NHL is a business and you can get traded at any time.

- Santo_44



Fuk Wille..trade that B snatch now..we need D help
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM ET
Fuk Wille..trade that B snatch now..we need D help
- Fruitcakenipple

Sure depending on the return.
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:02 PM ET
Sure depending on the return.
- Santo_44


Well yes b'y...Not gonna give him away..
lonnyBohonos
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 02.02.2017

Oct 12 @ 9:06 PM ET
Sure depending on the return.
- Santo_44


ya exactly, realistically which RHD is actually available.
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM ET
If the Leafs are 8 - 2 or so after 10, Willy might want to tell his agent to get a bridge deal done. No more (frank)ing around at that point. I understand people have different priorities, and don't blame Nylander for doing his best to obtain financial security for his future. But he will be left in the dust at some point, and it will be easy for Dubas to trade him and say "We thought we could sign everyone, we were wrong. Have to pivot in another direction now."

And also, is Trouba a pending UFA? If so see if you can work out a Gardiner/Trouba trade. If both are going to walk to new teams soon it might be beneficial to give each defence a switch. Bump Hainsey down to more manageable minutes as well.

- BetterCallSaul


RFA and UFA are not comparable. Trouba can leave. Nylander is still controllable. Not a good idea.
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:17 PM ET
Drafted Morgan Reilly 117th overall (12th round) in Fantasy




- EnzoD

I made the voice as I read this...


Also. How the poop is the quote feature been broke on this site for so many years?
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 12 @ 9:23 PM ET
RFA and UFA are not comparable. Trouba can leave. Nylander is still controllable. Not a good idea.
- Dr. Leaf

You also did not read what I said.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:26 PM ET
Well yes b'y...Not gonna give him away..
- Fruitcakenipple

Only problem is not many teams want to make trades at this time of the year.

Either way by Dec 1st the Leafs will add a very good player
Fruitcakenipple
Location: NF
Joined: 01.12.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:26 PM ET
Only problem is not many teams want to make trades at this time of the year.

Either way by Dec 1st the Leafs will add a very good player

- Santo_44



Yes they will...
justmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:27 PM ET
I made the voice as I read this...


Also. How the poop is the quote feature been broke on this site for so many years?

- poisondhearts37


If you go into the blog first and then into the comments the quote won't work, just go back to the main page and go right into the comments and the quotes work.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Oct 12 @ 11:03 PM ET
Lebrun said today he may fear getting traded...if he takes less and someone offers Dubas a #1 D next year because Nylander scored PPG with a 6x6 contract. That would be hard to turn down.

Then Willie just took less to play for a worse team.

Willies dad was traded 5 tines in his career....and twice in one year.

I’m sure he is telling his son that the NHL is a business and you can get traded at any time.

Panarin signs a two year deal with the Hawks expecting to be with them and Saad signs 6 yeas with the Jackets only to be traded 2 seasons after signing the contract. Because why the (frank) would the CBJ turn down Panarin?

- Santo_44


I know Willy probably respects and admires his father, but in truth, he should view his father's past as more of a cautionary tale instead of a path to follow.

Didn't Micheal Nylander get traded after sitting out a year demanding a better deal? And then after that didn't he get traded a few more times while underperforming on his new teams? Didn't he likely lose a lot of money due to his own actions?

This exact scenario could happen to Willy too if he continues with his present course.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 12 @ 11:05 PM ET
Did any of you read that article in the news section on The Score app? On how Avs or Canes are in a good position to offer sheet Nylander. Interesting read..
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Oct 12 @ 11:06 PM ET


If you go into the blog first and then into the comments the quote won't work, just go back to the main page and go right into the comments and the quotes work.

- justmike


Is that actually the trick?! Huh!

I just learned how to do the quotes manually whenever necessary. I assume lots of others do the same when needed. Never knew I just needed to skip the blogs!
Sorry Mike b'y. The comments section is more informative than you anyways.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Oct 12 @ 11:09 PM ET
Did any of you read that article in the news section on The Score app? On how Avs or Canes are in a good position to offer sheet Nylander. Interesting read..
- LeafGuy89


Meh, offersheets smoffersheets. I'll believe it when I see it.

The talking heads always go on about offersheets and they never seem to materialize. Everyone going on about McJesus, then Drysaddle, neither got any that we know of. Hearing lots of idiots going on about how worried we should be about Marner or Matthews getting them too. So stupid.

My sources tell me Shanahan already has a barn rented. Anyone that wants to offersheet one of our players has to face him for 12 rounds or KO.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Oct 12 @ 11:21 PM ET
Assuming KneeLander caves and signs at 6 mil per, that's a little over 75k per game.. or ~ 366k worth of salary he hasn't earned by holding out. More than a third of his elc base pay... For 5 games. You gotta think at some point he realizes this is futile, right?
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Oct 12 @ 11:24 PM ET
Did any of you read that article in the news section on The Score app? On how Avs or Canes are in a good position to offer sheet Nylander. Interesting read..
- LeafGuy89

1. offer sheets are nothing if he doesn't sign

2. let him sign...at 8 mill, we'll take the picks thanks

3. pretty soon he'll tell his agent to go (frank) his hat, then he'll sign, knowing that the Leafs are his best bet for a Cup.
4. I wouldn't be surprised if Dubas/Shanahan sit down with all 3 of Marner, Matthews, and Willie, remind them of TITS and the hard cap, and all 3 get signed at once in an internet owning media cumming epic announcement.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 11:27 PM ET
Lebrun said today he may fear getting traded...if he takes less and someone offers Dubas a #1 D next year because Nylander scored PPG with a 6x6 contract. That would be hard to turn down.

Then Willie just took less to play for a worse team.

Willies dad was traded 5 tines in his career....and twice in one year.

I’m sure he is telling his son that the NHL is a business and you can get traded at any time.

Panarin signs a two year deal with the Hawks expecting to be with them and Saad signs 6 yeas with the Jackets only to be traded 2 seasons after signing the contract. Because why the (frank) would the CBJ turn down Panarin?

- Santo_44

Yeah this is all true but it’s just so much easier to call him a greedy piece of poop.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Oct 12 @ 11:31 PM ET
1. offer sheets are nothing if he doesn't sign

2. let him sign...at 8 mill, we'll take the picks thanks

3. pretty soon he'll tell his agent to go (frank) his hat, then he'll sign, knowing that the Leafs are his best bet for a Cup.
4. I wouldn't be surprised if Dubas/Shanahan sit down with all 3 of Marner, Matthews, and Willie, remind them of TITS and the hard cap, and all 3 get signed at once in an internet owning media cumming epic announcement.

- jimi james




I kind of expected him to sit all three down and go over the plan with them together and get them all signed tbh.

Explain exactly how much he could allocate to them, go over where else the money is needed and projected cap growth, maybe even point out new possible sponsors they could end up with, the whole deal.

Let the agents sit in too if they insist. Tell them exactly how it is and get all three on board and signed.

The only real problem is that Willy would probably be the one thinking he wasn't getting his fair share, cause lets face it, he's not as good and doesn't deserve as much (but he likely won't see it that way). The more I think about this, the more I think it'd work with just Matthews and Marner, but probably not with Willy.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Oct 12 @ 11:32 PM ET
Assuming KneeLander caves and signs at 6 mil per, that's a little over 75k per game.. or ~ 366k worth of salary he hasn't earned by holding out. More than a third of his elc base pay... For 5 games. You gotta think at some point he realizes this is futile, right?
- leafsfann

It will probably be all signing bonuses and a low salary. He won't lose much from the missed games.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Oct 12 @ 11:35 PM ET
Yeah this is all true but it’s just so much easier to call him a greedy piece of poop.
- ClarksonDavid


I'd say he's less likely to be traded if he signed a team friendly deal than if he holds out and demands too much.

Why do we all jump on anyone dumb enough to suggest trading Kadri? It's because he's on an awesome deal. In a cap world, he is more valuable because he gives you more bang for your buck.

If Willy had a good deal, the team would be less willing to trade him. They'd rather let go others whose deals provide less value compared to how much cap they take up.
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Oct 12 @ 11:38 PM ET
Rielly went 118th in our pool

I took Nylander that round😡
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 11:42 PM ET
I'd say he's less likely to be traded if he signed a team friendly deal than if he holds out and demands too much.

Why do we all jump on anyone dumb enough to suggest trading Kadri? It's because he's on an awesome deal. In a cap world, he is more valuable because he gives you more bang for your buck.

If Willy had a good deal, the team would be less willing to trade him. They'd rather let go others that whose deals provide less value compared to how much cap they take up.

His father got repeatedly traded because he wanted too much money and then afterwards played below expectations on his new teams.

- Thecakeisalie

Idk, if the leafs decide they need to move a big piece for D the guy is Nylander. Him being on a great deal makes him even more valuable, taking less to play for the leafs just to be traded in a year or so would be not ideal for him. I can see why they’d worry about that. Nylanders camp knows Matthews Marner JT aren’t going anywhere and as good as kadri is he’s not as valuable as Nylander in a deal.
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