Troll hard
- systemtool

Not even. Just pointing out your hypocrisy - it isn't so pretty.

What did you say about banning me on the Leaves thread the other day when I simply commented about the Tavares quote?

Everyone's a troll. Everyone's butthurt. Everyone are idiots!

Okay then. He's like every other winger.
- systemtool

You missed the first sentence. But I expect that.

I'd tone it back and quickly
- Dozzer

Why Is that? He can say what he says because he's a Leafs fan? Others can't compare what he says?

Not even. Just pointing out your hypocrisy - it isn't so pretty.

What did you say about banning me on the Leaves thread the other day when I simply commented about the Tavares quote?

Everyone's a troll. Everyone's butthurt. Everyone are idiots!
- Aussiepenguin

Okay. Carry on.

You missed the first sentence. But I expect that.
- Aussiepenguin

Cool. Ovechkin is like every other one way winger.

Cool. Ovechkin is like every other one way winger.
- systemtool

It's news to me too man. Apparently scoring over 30 goals in 13 straight seasons, 9 seasons with 40+, and 7 with 50+, oh and don't forget the year he had 65! is commonplace these days.

It's amazing what you can learn listening to a guy typing on his iphone at the beach.

Best goal scorer ever = generational
- DutchSenators

Sorry, someone with about 900 goals would argue your "best goal scorer ever" comment.

But yeah, Ovechkin is definitely a generational talent. That comment about Crosby being one and Ovechkin not was just plain stupidity.

Ovi is a great scorer. Generational? Maybe. Other than that he's like every other 1 way winger which definately isn't generational.

Crosby is generational in every sense of the word.
- Aussiepenguin

For your reasons of Crosby doing it all, is the exact same reason why Matthews could turn out to be a generational talent. He does it all, at both ends of the ice. Time will tell.

Sorry, someone with about 900 goals would argue your "best goal scorer ever" comment.

But yeah, Ovechkin is definitely a generational talent. That comment about Crosby being one and Ovechkin not was just plain stupidity.
- Cooshie

It's a very over-used term, but in the case of Ovechkin, given the times he's scoring goals in, I think it very much applies.

I think Bossy has the highest goals per game average in NHL history, he was a generational goal scorer.

Sorry, someone with about 900 goals would argue your "best goal scorer ever" comment.

But yeah, Ovechkin is definitely a generational talent. That comment about Crosby being one and Ovechkin not was just plain stupidity.
- Cooshie

I problem lies in the definition of "generational" when it comes to labeling hockey players.

It's a very over-used term, but in the case of Ovechkin, given the times he's scoring goals in, I think it very much applies.

I think Bossy has the highest goals per game average in NHL history, he was a generational goal scorer.
- LeftCoaster

I've read things like this multiple times. How considering the average goals per game during his career and how many he still gets, compared to others it puts him at the top or something. I haven't done the research myself obviously, but it makes sense.

I've read things like this multiple times. How considering the average goals per game during his career and how many he still gets, compared to others it puts him at the top or something. I haven't done the research myself obviously, but it makes sense.
- Thecakeisalie

For players that played in the 1900's, the G/gm list goes like this...

1. Mike Bossy 0.762
2. Mario Lemieux 0.754
3. Pavel Bure 0.623
4. Alex Ovechkin 0.607
5. Wayne Gretzky 0.601
6. Brett Hull 0.584

All but Ovechkin played in the 80's and 90's when NHL scoring was significantly higher.

Eklund: Time to Admit Matthews Proving Every Bit as Valuable as McDavid. Buzz@1
- Eklund

Matthews is a powerplay specialist. He is one of the best. However, he is not the guy you want on the ice in all situations, and is a minus after playing the three worst teams in the league so lets not get carried away. He will have 45 goals and 35 assists, McD will have 45 goals and 70 assists with a horrible supporting cast. McD is the indisputable #1 player in the league. Compare Matthews with Stamkos please (0.91 ppg with good linemates over the past 2 seasons), but not McD's 1.27 ppg with lucic being his "star" winger.

Starting to think I got goated into this rediculas click bait

For players that played in the 1900's, the G/gm list goes like this...

1. Mike Bossy 0.762
2. Mario Lemieux 0.754
3. Pavel Bure 0.623
4. Alex Ovechkin 0.607
5. Wayne Gretzky 0.601
6. Brett Hull 0.584

All but Ovechkin played in the 80's and 90's when NHL scoring was significantly higher.
- LeftCoaster

I think we'll see these numbers again with the new goalie adjustments.. Ovi needs an asterisk beside his name in the history books. He got royally screwed.

Didn't we go through this with Crosby and OvenChicken?

'Time to admit Ovechkin is a better player than Crosby'...

McDavid is generational.

Matthews is not.

Wake the f**ck up.
- LordHumungous

Way, way too soon to be making definitive statements like that.
They might all
Be “generational”, though I’d say that term is way overused. If Crosby is then Ovie is too. McDavid likely - Matthews?? We shall see.

Matthews is a powerplay specialist. He is one of the best. However, he is not the guy you want on the ice in all situations, and is a minus after playing the three worst teams in the league so lets not get carried away. He will have 45 goals and 35 assists, McD will have 45 goals and 70 assists with a horrible supporting cast. McD is the indisputable #1 player in the league. Compare Matthews with Stamkos please (0.91 ppg with good linemates over the past 2 seasons), but not McD's 1.27 ppg with lucic being his "star" winger.

Starting to think I got goated into this rediculas click bait
- bikeguy99

Reaserch the bolded again..

Vast majory of AM's career goals were 5vs5. His 200 ft game is top notch.. THIS IS WHAT HE'S MOST KNOW FOR!!

goddamn.

Ovi is a great scorer. Generational? Maybe. Other than that he's like every other 1 way winger which definately isn't generational.

Crosby is generational in every sense of the word.
- Aussiepenguin

Era adjusted stats have Ovie as the best goal scorer ever - what more does he need to do to be generational? He can’t change his birth certificate. If it had his as Canadian I expect many would view him differently - he is often seen through the lens of xenophobia.
This in no way detracts from Crosby who is an immense talent and an all time great. Is there not room to appreciate both of them for their talents??

Matthews is a powerplay specialist. He is one of the best. However, he is not the guy you want on the ice in all situations, and is a minus after playing the three worst teams in the league so lets not get carried away. He will have 45 goals and 35 assists, McD will have 45 goals and 70 assists with a horrible supporting cast. McD is the indisputable #1 player in the league. Compare Matthews with Stamkos please (0.91 ppg with good linemates over the past 2 seasons), but not McD's 1.27 ppg with lucic being his "star" winger.

Starting to think I got goated into this rediculas click bait
- bikeguy99

Matthews is not a PP specialist. He scored very few PP goals the last two years but has been a beast at 5 on 5. He had the most 5 on 5 goals in the league AS A ROOKIE. Only the last week has he been a “PP specialist”.

Matthews is a powerplay specialist. He is one of the best. However, he is not the guy you want on the ice in all situations, and is a minus after playing the three worst teams in the league so lets not get carried away. He will have 45 goals and 35 assists, McD will have 45 goals and 70 assists with a horrible supporting cast. McD is the indisputable #1 player in the league. Compare Matthews with Stamkos please (0.91 ppg with good linemates over the past 2 seasons), but not McD's 1.27 ppg with lucic being his "star" winger.

Starting to think I got goated into this rediculas click bait
- bikeguy99

Is this a joke? A power play specialist? You clearly have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

I thought it was common knowledge that Matthews leads the league since he entered it in 5 vs 5 goals. You know, when not on the power play?

He was first in even strength goals his very first year in the league, and tied for 5th last year despite only playing 62 games.

He is the exact opposite of a power play specialist. He is an all situations player that is solid at both ends of the ice and gets most of his points during regular play.

It's a good thing I set the record straight about Matthews to that Bikeguy, since clearly noone else was going to....

"Looks at other posts just before my own..."
Hmmmm. Oh well.

Pay Austin $14 million and be done with it. Pay Marner $7 or $8 million. Trade the holdout to Arizona for a defenceman and a No. 1 (oh, sorry, maybe the holdout is not that good.) But Austin is worth $14 for the maximum number of years.

Would anyone trade McDavid even up for Austin? Austin has guns blazing against the Sisters of the Poor (call me back after the next five). The Mighty Oil have only played twice but can expect to be 2-8 when they play Minnesota in a couple weeks.

Hint: Austin has a better team behind him than McDavid has. That explains his current point production. There is no Tavares-Marner combo on the Oil.

One Oilers injury of note and the Mighty Oil are in the Hughes hunt. Mind you, I just said that to scare you.

Cool. Ovechkin is like every other one way winger.
- systemtool

This is what I actually said,

"Ovi is a great scorer. Generational? Maybe."

So that's a little different now isn't it?

I'd say he is a generational scorer, but I think 'player' is defined differently in my opinion.

It's news to me too man. Apparently scoring over 30 goals in 13 straight seasons, 9 seasons with 40+, and 7 with 50+, oh and don't forget the year he had 65! is commonplace these days.

It's amazing what you can learn listening to a guy typing on his iphone at the beach.
- Thecakeisalie

Wow some of you are knuckleheads.

I said this, "Ovi is a great scorer. Generational? Maybe."

I consider generational players to be all round wonderful players. Many years Ovi floated around only looking to score goals which he did. So if hockey is made up of only scoring goals I'm with you!

For your reasons of Crosby doing it all, is the exact same reason why Matthews could turn out to be a generational talent. He does it all, at both ends of the ice. Time will tell.
- Cooshie

It's no doubt Matthews is a very very good offensively, you know more than me about his defensive game.

It's a good point though if a player could develop into a generational player. It would be greatly debated but a good conversation to have.

It's a very over-used term, but in the case of Ovechkin, given the times he's scoring goals in, I think it very much applies.

I think Bossy has the highest goals per game average in NHL history, he was a generational goal scorer.
- LeftCoaster

Now Is that considered a generation 'player'? I realise they both 'play' hockey, but 1 is an all round talent & the other only has 1 trick?

Eks next blog - "what is a generational player"? The Buzz will melt down.

Edit: talking Crosby Ovi. Not Bossy Ovi, although goal scoring Is Ovis go.