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Shoulda drafted Elias Elittersson
- Nucker101

Should of got Dougie Hamilton

not to mention Hagg's goals were a) a goalie goal and b) a lucky bounce right to him with a yawning cage for the slam dunk.

I'm not taking anything away from him saying this. But it's just something to consider. He could very easily have no goals if a goalie made a routine save and if he wasn't johnny on the spot
- Giroux_Is_God

I get what you're saying. It really isn't a Hagg vs Sanheim thing for me if they're both playing. I think the reason that didn't happen last year was bs. I am not a Hagg hater, but he is limited and I think he is most valuable to the Flyers as a sacrificial lamb bound for Seattle because Sanheim's upside is much better (and Morin is better defensively). The success of that depends on how good he is playing here. I think he is playing better than last year offensively. Making better decisions in the offensive zone. I think AMac bears more blame for the mess that pairing is.

I expect the usual garbage hockeybuzz response from ClaudeFather. OP delivered like he asked, but he'll probably call me out for not posting gifs or videos or for remembering something slightly wrong.

I miss Nutter, yingjag, mordy, and mono. T H E B O I S
- Giroux_Is_God

It's still cool. This will always be home for me anyway.

Regarding Hagg, call me crazy but he's starting to grow on me. I know he makes mistakes and probably wont be all that great but the (frank)er tries. He knows he's limited but you can see him really trying to grow that offensive part of his game this year. I respect that.

He's also been saddled with Mac for far too many games of his young career. "Learning" from that turd.

I get what you're saying. It really isn't a Hagg vs Sanheim thing for me if they're both playing. I think the reason that didn't happen last year was bs. I am not a Hagg hater, but he is limited and I think he is most valuable to the Flyers as a sacrificial lamb bound for Seattle because Sanheim's upside is much better (and Morin is better defensively). The success of that depends on how good he is playing here. I think he is playing better than last year offensively. Making better decisions in the offensive zone. I think AMac bears more blame for the mess that pairing is.
- YuenglingJagr

Agreed on all counts.

I will whip Hagg though until he proves me otherwise. 2018 Hagg has been tolerable. Ok. Mediocre. Tepid. And that's fine with me. It's better than being bad, which he has been for most of his career. If he can stay where he is now, then this team could have a not brutally bad bottom pairing dman for once

It's still cool. This will always be home for me anyway.

Regarding Hagg, call me crazy but he's starting to grow on me. I know he makes mistakes and probably wont be all that great but the (frank)er tries. He knows he's limited but you can see him really trying to grow that offensive part of his game this year. I respect that.

He's also been saddled with Mac for far too many games of his young career. "Learning" from that turd.
- flyer_nutter

Yup. Seeing progress is good. Like I said in my previous post, this Hagg is much more useful than 2017 Hagg. I will remain skeptical though considering the other 99% of his body of NHL work.

EDIT I have news. My phone autocorrected nucker to nutter. I am sorry. However I see you more elsewhere which is good

Yup. Seeing progress is good. Like I said in my previous post, this Hagg is much more useful than 2017 Hagg. I will remain skeptical though considering the other 99% of his body of NHL work.

EDIT I have news. My phone autocorrected nucker to nutter. I am sorry. However I see you more elsewhere which is good
- Giroux_Is_God

I knew it was too good to be true. Take it easy.

I get what you're saying. It really isn't a Hagg vs Sanheim thing for me if they're both playing. I think the reason that didn't happen last year was bs. I am not a Hagg hater, but he is limited and I think he is most valuable to the Flyers as a sacrificial lamb bound for Seattle because Sanheim's upside is much better (and Morin is better defensively). The success of that depends on how good he is playing here. I think he is playing better than last year offensively. Making better decisions in the offensive zone. I think AMac bears more blame for the mess that pairing is.
- YuenglingJagr

Thank you for at least acknowledging he is playing with Mac. Sanheim is playing bad without Mac. Not anywhere did I say Hagg had more potential but 4 games into the season Hagg has been fine and Sanheim has not. Those are facts. Not even saying the kid won't turn it around just saying he needs to step up.

Lines from practice? I can't find anything.

If Provorov can get back to form, the whole D will look much better. They just don’t have the depth to overcome a struggling Provorov.

Right now, when it comes to the D, only Ghost is playing extremely well. Gudas has been solid, while Hagg, Provorov and Sanheim have been fluctuating between mediocre and so-so. AMac has just been bad.

If Provorov can get back to form, the whole D will look much better. They just don’t have the depth to overcome a struggling Provorov.

Right now, when it comes to the D, only Ghost is playing extremely well. Gudas has been solid, while Hagg, Provorov and Sanheim have been fluctuating between mediocre and so-so. AMac has just been bad.
- BiggE

What will it take for Mac to be out of the lineup, 10 more games of this? 20? Only an injury? At some point you can't just say everyone struggles or look away because this might be the worst he's been ever which is hard to beleive.

If Provorov can get back to form, the whole D will look much better. They just don’t have the depth to overcome a struggling Provorov.

Right now, when it comes to the D, only Ghost is playing extremely well. Gudas has been solid, while Hagg, Provorov and Sanheim have been fluctuating between mediocre and so-so. AMac has just been bad.
- BiggE

It just gets really interesting next season.

Assuming you have Sanheim, Ghost, Prov and Hagg as locks that leaves you two spots.

Cant imagine they leave Myers down another year, and hell even Friedman looked fairly solid. Morin knocking on the door as well. Wishful thinking but this may be the last year of Mac. One can dream I suppose, however unlikely it may be. They will find some way to leave him in the top 6 no matter if a young kid outplays him.

Can't wait for the news to break that Hak plans to use Weal as our 2C

To be clear. This is just my guess.

Provorov and MacDonald are veterans. They deserve criticism for their level of play this season so far but Sanheim is a kid and with the situation, he has been okay. Have to look at all variables.
- MJL

Umm Provorov is in what year 2? He's far from a Vet LOL

Hopefully it’s short time if anything . Maybe he’s just being the bestest friend and not letting his best friend miss some time alone.
- arichardson22

#twining

Is Sanheim really getting beat up on today? I think he’s been pretty steady for a second year player and props to Hakstol for getting on the PP by game three and keeping him there.

Mac. The question becomes, would you buy him out this summer or would you trade him for the lowest pic you can get and keep half the salary. It’s time to stop making excuses for Mac. He’s no Brayden Coburn.

Umm Provorov is in what year 2? He's far from a Vet LOL
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

This is Provorov’s third season.

Dude seriously? a chip off the wall from behind the net....Nice move in the corner but there wasn't much there bud.
- ClaudeFather

* Flagged this by accident*

The first play wasn't just a chip off the wall!

He picked up the puck from in the slot and, surrounded by 3 Senators, found a way to buy time and make a smart play to transition the team out of the zone with the puck on a teammate's stick.

If you can't see that then continuing on this conversation is pointless.

Every little mistake? The kid has been horrible lmao. You send one bad play of Hagg and think you are right, you are a fool. Send some GIFs of Sanheims good plays this season... I'll wait. Hagg has been solid and already has a couple goals. I like Sanheim but he needs to pick it up.
- ClaudeFather

If you haven't been able to see a few really exciting things from Sanheim this season, I question your eye. He's had some very wow moments, both good and bad.

Hagg has looked better than last season, but still fumbled the puck, been out of position on a lot of plays, and gives up the blue line as well. He has been getting better, but his issues with positioning and poor reads will always be in his game because he is a lower IQ player.

This is Provorov’s third season.
- SuperSchennBros

While it is Provorov's 3rd season, lets not say Sanheim is a kid in comparison.
Sanheim is actually a year older than Ivan

Provy has not played up to his usual standard, but lets keep in mind he is a kid also

* Flagged this by accident*

The first play wasn't just a chip off the wall!

Hi picked up the puck from in the slot and, surrounded by 3 Senators, found a way to buy time and make a smart play to transition the team out of the zone with the puck and a teammates stick.

If you can see that then continuing on this conversation is pointless.
- ggunky

No worries, yes he has made some good plays but he has made some very weak plays that directly cost us a goal. Sometimes he just reminds me of Bambi out there, long legs, struggling to stay afloat. More consistency than anything.

Is Sanheim really getting beat up on today?.
- SuperSchennBros

Yup and it's ridiculous as beating up Hagg who has played what less than a full season?

Yup and it's ridiculous as beating up Hagg who has played what less than a full season?
- opeth_pa

4 games in, be ready to be ridiculed.

Yup and it's ridiculous as beating up Hagg who has played what less than a full season?
- opeth_pa

Hagg played 70 games. Pretty close to a full season.

Also, a lot of us have tracked Hagg thru WJCs and at the Phantoms. As he has played against better competition, the flaws in his game have become apparent -- to the point where his upside is limited.

That being said, I think he has been much better in the early going.

It just gets really interesting next season.

Assuming you have Sanheim, Ghost, Prov and Hagg as locks that leaves you two spots.

Cant imagine they leave Myers down another year, and hell even Friedman looked fairly solid. Morin knocking on the door as well. Wishful thinking but this may be the last year of Mac. One can dream I suppose, however unlikely it may be. They will find some way to leave him in the top 6 no matter if a young kid outplays him.
- flyer_nutter

Mac and Gudas should (hopefully) both be gone before the start of 19-20.

Just roll with

Provy-Ghost
Sanheim-Hagg
Morin-Myers

Will they make some mistakes? Sure, outside of Ghost and Provorov and to a lesser extent Hagg, it’s a raw group. But it’ll be time to sink or swim with the kids by then, you can only rebuild for so long.

Get Hart in the net and replace Raffl, Lehtera, Weise, and Weal from a pool of guys like NAK, Frost, Twarynski, and possibly Ratcliffe and one or 2 of the college prospects.

Again, they may make some mistakes, but they will be fast, hungry and will play their hearts out.

it's quiet after the win