TonkaPhaneuf
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Location: Where'd canucks fans go? -daeth Too busy with the lotto simulator - seagull Joined: 11.22.2012
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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I prefer the tag over the luxury tax. Miller likes the idea of a discount on signing your own players but if traded the full amount counts for the new team. It might also slow down and stupid contracts like Clarkson since they become even more untradeable. - Aaron_85
The problem with the tag is that it locks a player into a bad situation sometimes like Bell in Pittsburgh. They also usually end up being 1 year deals rather than, for example, Matthews at 13 AAV for 8 years being franchised so it doesn't count. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Yes I understand the concept. I also understand where the league is coming from since they want a bigger market share in the US. - Aaron_85
The league needs to focus on having teams in the right markets, then they can worry about the rest of it. Until Florida is moved to Quebec City and Arizona is moved to Houston, they're still poopting their pants every year trying to keep these dead market teams alive. |
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Woderwick
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: David Clarkson's Water Bottle, ON Joined: 02.12.2013
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That's not true because a small market team, with revenue sharing, could build up the funds to sign a player they would otherwise not be able to sign or retain a player they might lose because they can't afford to keep him due to an internal budget. - Unholy_Goalie
So they are going to "bank" that money for a number of years, then sign whoever may be available when they are ready to spend - until they run out of money? Seems like it won't work.
Players are going to want to go where there isn't a theoretical source of income. No guarantee of "tax" dollars from year to year. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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yeah he's earning his money so far this year. 4.5 million isnt a lot anymore. he didn't earn it last year though - daeth
Problem with Zaitsev is there's nothing he's doing right now that a kid on an ELC can't do and when you're trying to fit all your star players plus add a legit top pair RHD, that 4.5 million becomes a major league Richard breaker. As does Marleau's contract. That's 10.5 million dollars in cap space I'd rather have than the two guys eating up that space because you could replace both of them with players that take up 25% of that money and spend the other 75% signing a guy like Nylander for example. |
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MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.22.2016
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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So they are going to "bank" that money for a number of years, then sign whoever may be available when they are ready to spend - until they run out of money? Seems like it won't work.
Players are going to want to go where there isn't a theoretical source of income. No guarantee of "tax" dollars from year to year. - Woderwick
10% of 80 million would be 8 million. There's 31 teams. I mean, it basically allows 10 teams to get an extra marquee player and another 10 teams to have the money to do the same. Teams will max out the luxury tax and those players will just have to go somewhere else if they want that money. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Problem with Zaitsev is there's nothing he's doing right now that a kid on an ELC can't do and when you're trying to fit all your star players plus add a legit top pair RHD, that 4.5 million becomes a major league Richard breaker. As does Marleau's contract. That's 10.5 million dollars in cap space I'd rather have than the two guys eating up that space because you could replace both of them with players that take up 25% of that money and spend the other 75% signing a guy like Nylander for example. - Unholy_Goalie
I think Zaitsev for 7 years was too long of a deal. He probably would have taken 3 or 4 years.
Marleau only has one more after this year. It's fine. As you said the cap goes up so it should be fine. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Yeah, but we should trade him + and get a real defense-man. - GreatGigInTheSky
If Rielly got you Doughty, (frank) yeah you trade him. His 10 points are 90% because of who he plays with and the PP. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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The problem with the tag is that it locks a player into a bad situation sometimes like Bell in Pittsburgh. They also usually end up being 1 year deals rather than, for example, Matthews at 13 AAV for 8 years being franchised so it doesn't count. - Unholy_Goalie
No perfect solution unfortunately. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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The league needs to focus on having teams in the right markets, then they can worry about the rest of it. Until Florida is moved to Quebec City and Arizona is moved to Houston, they're still poopting their pants every year trying to keep these dead market teams alive. - Unholy_Goalie
Well Seattle is first. Then I really think Houston should get a team. Arizona needs a new home before Florida. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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I think Zaitsev for 7 years was too long of a deal. He probably would have taken 3 or 4 years.
Marleau only has one more after this year. It's fine. As you said the cap goes up so it should be fine. - Aaron_85
Marleau's contract is not fine, especially if he doesn't retire next year (after getting traded to Arizona of course so they can eat the cap hit without paying him a dime) when Marner and Matthews need their new deals.
Cap goes up but it's never gone up 6 million in a year. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Well Seattle is first. Then I really think Houston should get a team. Arizona needs a new home before Florida. - Aaron_85
First, relocate the Florida Panthers to Quebec City and bring back the Nordiques. Second, relocate the Carolina Hurricanes back to Hartford and bring back the Whalers. Third, relocate the Arizona Coyotes to Seattle and rename them the Cougars. Finally, expand to the next best market, let's say Houston for now. Or move Arizona to Houston and expand to Seattle. Same thing.
Now, with four divisions of eight, you realign the divisions that make the most geographical sense with a few exceptions for the sake of rivalries and history.
Western Conference - W
Northern Division - N
Vancouver Canucks (Bring back the black and yellow jerseys)
Edmonton Oilers
Calgary Flames
Winnipeg Jets
Minnesota Northstars (Wild has always been a stupid name)
Colorado Avalanche
St. Louis Blues
Columbus Blue Jackets
Southern Division - S
San Jose Sharks
Los Angeles Kings
Anaheim Ducks
Seattle Cougars
Vegas Knights (Drop the Golden, it's dumb and clumsy, just pay London)
Dallas Lonestars (Because Texas)
Houston Rattlesnakes (Because Texas)
Nashville Predators
Eastern Conference - E
Heritage Division - H
Toronto Maple Leafs
Montreal Canadiens
Chicago Blackhawks
Boston Bruins
New York Rangers
Detroit Red Wings
Ottawa Senators
Quebec Nordiques
Metropolitan Division - M
Buffalo Sabres
New Jersey Devils
New York Islanders
Hartford Whalers
Tampa Bay Lighting
Washington Capitals
Pittsburgh Penguins
Philadelphia Flyers
Also eliminated are the shootouts and 3 on 3 OT. If a game is tied after 60 minutes, a 10 minute, 5 on 5 OT period is played. If the game is still tied, it's a tie game. No more bullpoop loser point, three point games to artificially create parity.
Each team begins the year by playing all non-divisional opponents twice, once at home and once on the road for a total of 48 games. At this point, the NHL takes a break for the All-Star game, held January 1st in an outdoor game as the Winter Classic.
Once the season resumes, each team plays each division opponent four times, twice at home and twice on the road for a total of 28 games and a grand total of 76 games.
At this point, each team is seeded 1 to 8 in their respective divisions and the divisional playoffs begin with a 1 vs. 8, best of 7 series. Yes, all 32 teams make the divisional playoffs. This eliminates any inclination to tank and gives every single team a real chance to make the real playoffs. It also gives every team at least four games and as many as seven games which gives every team 80 guaranteed games which could also be as high as 83 based on performance.
After the divisional playoffs, half the teams are eliminated and given an equal 6.25% chance to win the draft lottery. Again, no tanking because there's no longer a reason to do so.
The divisional playoff winners are now reseeded and play a cross-divisional playoff. This is to help reduce the odds of two very good teams who happen to be in the same division eliminate each other in the 2nd round while also rewarding regular season performance by giving top teams the best seed.
Quarter Finals
N1 vs S4, N2 vs. S3, S1 vs. N4, S2 vs N3
H1 vs M4, H2 vs. S3, M1 vs H4, M2 vs H3
After the Quarter-Finals, the teams are again reseeded, 1 through 4 thus continuing to give regular season performance a certain level of importance to balance out the fact that every team qualifies for the divisional playoffs.
Semi-Finals
W1 vs W4, W2 vs W4
E1 vs E4, E2 vs E3
Conference Finals
W1 vs W2
E1 vs E2
Stanley Cup Finals
W1 vs. E1
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Leafs #1 offense with 20 goals in 4 games.
Leafs #31 defense with 17 goals against in 4 games.
Can't really be surprised by that but damn... |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Marleau's contract is not fine, especially if he doesn't retire next year (after getting traded to Arizona of course so they can eat the cap hit without paying him a dime) when Marner and Matthews need their new deals.
Cap goes up but it's never gone up 6 million in a year. - Unholy_Goalie
Marleau has a full no trade. He isnt getting traded unless he chooses.
His contract is 1 year left. They have 13 million right now without Nylander. They will find a way to make it last for 1 year. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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8-2 Sharks.
2 assists, +2, 4 hits.
- Unholy_Goalie
Yet again. You didn't watch the game.
2 turnovers for odd man rushes in the 1st 5 minutes of the game.
An assist on the power play for the 6th goal and an assist on the 7th goal, after Philly had already accepted their fate.
But yeah, he's sooooooooo good defensively.
Get (frank)ed, UG. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Marleau has a full no trade. He isnt getting traded unless he chooses.
His contract is 1 year left. They have 13 million right now without Nylander. They will find a way to make it last for 1 year. - Aaron_85
Well that's the thing, if he decides to retire (hopefully) then he will waive so he can retire in Arizona so they can eat the cap hit because he's 35+. They reach the cap floor and don't pay him a dime. He retires. Leafs escape the cap penalty.
They have 30 million next year and need to re-sign Matthews, Marner, Nylander (from this year), Gardiner (or replace him) and Hainsey (or replace him). That's a lot harder with Marleau on the books than without. |
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Unholy_Goalie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: usually UG offends everyone by telling the truth - dt99999, ON Joined: 08.23.2006
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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First, relocate the Florida Panthers to Quebec City and bring back the Nordiques. Second, relocate the Carolina Hurricanes back to Hartford and bring back the Whalers. Third, relocate the Arizona Coyotes to Seattle and rename them the Cougars. Finally, expand to the next best market, let's say Houston for now.
Now, with four divisions of eight, you realign the divisions that make the most geographical sense with a few exceptions for the sake of rivalries and history.
Western Conference - W
Northern Division - N
Vancouver Canucks (Bring back the black and yellow jerseys)
Edmonton Oilers
Calgary Flames
Winnipeg Jets
Minnesota Northstars (Wild has always been a stupid name)
Colorado Avalanche
St. Louis Blues
Columbus Blue Jackets
Southern Division - S
San Jose Sharks
Los Angeles Kings
Anaheim Ducks
Seattle Cougars
Vegas Knights (Drop the Golden, it's dumb and clumsy, just pay London)
Dallas Lonestars (Because Texas)
Houston Rattlesnakes (Because Texas)
Nashville Predators
Eastern Conference - E
Heritage Division - H
Toronto Maple Leafs
Montreal Canadiens
Chicago Blackhawks
Boston Bruins
New York Rangers
Detroit Red Wings
Ottawa Senators
Quebec Nordiques
Metropolitan Division - M
Buffalo Sabres
New Jersey Devils
New York Islanders
Hartford Whalers
Tampa Bay Lighting
Washington Capitals
Pittsburgh Penguins
Philadelphia Flyers
Also eliminated are the shootouts and 3 on 3 OT. If a game is tied after 60 minutes, a 10 minute, 5 on 5 OT period is played. If the game is still tied, it's a tie game. No more bullpoop loser point, three point games to artificially create parity.
Each team begins the year by playing all non-divisional opponents twice, once at home and once on the road for a total of 48 games. At this point, the NHL takes a break for the All-Star game, held January 1st in an outdoor game as the Winter Classic.
Once the season resumes, each team plays each division opponent four times, twice at home and twice on the road for a total of 28 games and a grand total of 76 games.
At this point, each team is seeded 1 to 8 in their respective divisions and the divisional playoffs begin with a 1 vs. 8, best of 7 series. Yes, all 32 teams make the divisional playoffs. This eliminates any inclination to tank and gives every single team a real chance to make the real playoffs. It also gives every team at least four games and as many as seven games which gives every team 80 guaranteed games which could also be as high as 83 based on performance.
After the divisional playoffs, half the teams are eliminated and given an equal 6.25% chance to win the draft lottery. Again, no tanking because there's no longer a reason to do so.
The divisional playoff winners are now reseeded and play a cross-divisional playoff. This is to help reduce the odds of two very good teams who happen to be in the same division eliminate each other in the 2nd round while also rewarding regular season performance by giving top teams the best seed.
Quarter Finals
N1 vs S4, N2 vs. S3, S1 vs. N4, S2 vs N3
H1 vs M4, H2 vs. S3, M1 vs H4, M2 vs H3
After the Quarter-Finals, the teams are again reseeded, 1 through 4 thus continuing to give regular season performance a certain level of importance to balance out the fact that every team qualifies for the divisional playoffs.
Semi-Finals
W1 vs W4, W2 vs W4
E1 vs E4, E2 vs E4
Conference Finals
W1 vs W2
E1 vs E2
Stanley Cup Finals
W1 vs. E1
- Unholy_Goalie
bring back mullets and the 8-track... |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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so are we not going to talk about me calling Matthews and Tavares both having 2 goal nights?
cause i feel like that was a pretty sick call..
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daeth
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: 43 points, ON Joined: 09.15.2005
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so are we not going to talk about me calling Matthews and Tavares both having 2 goal nights?
cause i feel like that was a pretty sick call.. - Arctic_AARDVARK
that's their avg in toronto, anyone could make that prediction |
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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Retired, ON Joined: 07.24.2011
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that's their avg in toronto, anyone could make that prediction - daeth
pfft...
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mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Vancouver Island, BC Joined: 01.18.2015
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so are we not going to talk about me calling Matthews and Tavares both having 2 goal nights?
cause i feel like that was a pretty sick call.. - Arctic_AARDVARK
No, we were congratulating those who stood by the 🐐 during the dark times |
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Never said he was perfect defensively but go harder at that bottle. - Unholy_Goalie
I think it's absolutely hilarious that there's literally nothing you can say to me except that I drink. Oh, no! The horror!
Because what I say is right and you got (frank)ing nothing else. |
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