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GorgeousDave
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.15.2017

Oct 9 @ 10:22 PM ET
By the way, I am not putting this on the goalie. This was a team wide lose.

However, if he comes up with a save on that first goal, perhaps things are different.

You know how it is, momentum is a real thing. They Flyers were dominating then SJ comes down and goal against. After that the Flyers never recovered. That was a save he NEEDED to make.

- ggunky


Exactly, it was the Pens series all over again. You get a good forecheck going and he gives up a softie. It is crushing.

If he would’ve locked it up then, no harm no foul, but he didn’t show up until it was 3-0.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:22 PM ET
I feel more bad for Bill having to do a write up on this garbage than Elliot in for 8 goals against.
- bird_dog_pa


Bill's post game wrap should be 3 words:

"Turn the page."
Brad Marsh Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.13.2017

Oct 9 @ 10:22 PM ET
I don’t understand at all why he was left in....even to start the third period. Nothing like embarrassing your #1.
- landros 2


The answer lies in that useless mid-game on the bench interview (such a stupid national tv phenomenon) when Hak defended Elliot. I'm convinced he felt keeping him in was rewarding him because he did make some big stops in the first half of the game.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 9 @ 10:23 PM ET
Gordon will be upgraded to the flyers if this poop 💩 continues.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:23 PM ET
By the way, I am not putting this on the goalie. This was a team wide lose.

However, if he comes up with a save on that first goal, perhaps things are different.

You know how it is, momentum is a real thing. They Flyers were dominating then SJ comes down and goal against. After that the Flyers never recovered. That was a save he NEEDED to make.

- ggunky


This is where I land on Elliot.

He needed to make that first save.

And then, he kicked out a rebound directly to Pavelski for the 2nd goal.

They rolled over after that. That's a different problem, but they clearly lost focus after the 2nd goal.
Brad Marsh Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.13.2017

Oct 9 @ 10:25 PM ET
This is where I land on Elliot.

He needed to make that first save.

And then, he kicked out a rebound directly to Pavelski for the 2nd goal.

They rolled over after that. That's a different problem, but they clearly lost focus after the 2nd goal.

- johndewar



Precisely
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:25 PM ET
I think throwing Pickard in a tire fire of a first game as a Flyer wasn’t a good idea either. Elliott put them in a hole and even though the team gave up after the first 2, he owns that game.
- GorgeousDave



I guess... but it was hard to watch....I really hope Hart is as good as the hype, because the one thing that Hextall has not been able to figure out is this teams goaltending.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:25 PM ET
By the way, I am not putting this on the goalie. This was a team wide lose.

However, if he comes up with a save on that first goal, perhaps things are different.

You know how it is, momentum is a real thing. They Flyers were dominating the SJ comes down and goal against. After that the Flyers never recovered. That was a save he NEEDED to make.

- ggunky


I get what you are saying, but EVERY goalie and EVERY team has these moments, tonight the Flyers didn't respond...especially after providing some solid big saves (stacking pads across net, the countless 3-4 shots in a row in the slot where the Flyers couldn't clear the puck). Is Elliott an all-star, hell no, but you can't even expect an all-star to stop constant odd man rushes all night.

If Elliott was bad tonight, wait until everyone gets disappointed when Hart has to face games like this, let's hope he doesn't become a Blaine Lacher.
GorgeousDave
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.15.2017

Oct 9 @ 10:26 PM ET
This is where I land on Elliot.

He needed to make that first save.

And then, he kicked out a rebound directly to Pavelski for the 2nd goal.

They rolled over after that. That's a different problem, but they clearly lost focus after the 2nd goal.

- johndewar


Exactly, the fault goes all the way around, but teams rattle easily when they know that every mistake is going to end up in the back of the net.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Oct 9 @ 10:26 PM ET
The Good...

Gritty with the entrance
Hart with the guitar 🎸 accompanist
The fourth line solid 😇
The PK decent 🤔
Game tomorrow for a chance at a quick bounce back

The Bad...

Just about everything else 🤬
Team defense
Offense failure to capitalize
Top players with poor play 🤮

The Ugly...

What in the world was Elliott still doing in net! No mercy killings

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 9 @ 10:26 PM ET
I feel more bad for Bill having to do a write up on this garbage than Elliot in for 8 goals against.
- bird_dog_pa

Tbh he probably has a template saved for these types of games now. Sigh.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:27 PM ET
I guess... but it was hard to watch....I really hope Hart is as good as the hype, because the one thing that Hextall has not been able to figure out is this teams goaltending.
- landros 2


Oh, what has he actually figured out? Putting together a string of prospects that are probably overhyped and some of whom MIGHT turn out to be good players one day?
GorgeousDave
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.15.2017

Oct 9 @ 10:28 PM ET
I look at it this way. These games happen, just not usually in this spectacular of a fashion.

Beat the poop out of Ott tomorrow and the circle of life continues. Let this be the start of a funk and then there’s a problem.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:29 PM ET
Well, we beat the Caps early last season 8-2 at home and they went on to win the Cup, so there’s that.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:29 PM ET
Bill's post game wrap should be 3 words:

"Turn the page."

- ggunky


That’s gonna be the mindset for tomorrow’s game.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:30 PM ET
Ghost post game: “I feel so f.. bad for Moose”
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:30 PM ET
Giroux needs to call a closed-door team meeting. He needs to step up. He's been captain for a while now. Voracek needs to play way better. He plays like he has zero accountability.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:31 PM ET
Oh, what has he actually figured out? Putting together a string of prospects that are probably overhyped and some of whom MIGHT turn out to be good players one day?
- PT21


Isn’t that what I said ?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Oct 9 @ 10:31 PM ET
One thing I will say.

I don’t condone Wilson or Cooke type of hits but you would have liked to see them, show some ferocity when being female dog slapped like that.

Vanilla.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:31 PM ET
MJL was just on the FAN590 and he said it's always been his dream to watch the flyers lose horribly on a home opener
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:33 PM ET
Precisely
- Brad Marsh Fan

The team overall was somewhat cavalier. The sharks had teeth and generated 23 shots against the Flyers in the 1st! They were hungry and they created a bunch of fortunate bounces, but man those 1st 2 goals were of the soft variety.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:33 PM ET
One thing I will say.

I don’t condone Wilson or Cooke type of hits but you would have liked to see them, show some ferocity when being female dog slapped like that.

Vanilla.

- flyer_nutter

BOOM
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 9 @ 10:33 PM ET
One thing I will say.

I don’t condone Wilson or Cooke type of hits but you would have liked to see them, show some ferocity when being female dog slapped like that.

Vanilla.

- flyer_nutter


I was waiting for someone to put a body to Kane or Pavelski, but they skated around uncontested it seemed.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 9 @ 10:35 PM ET
Giroux needs to call a closed-door team meeting. He needs to step up. He's been captain for a while now. Voracek needs to play way better. He plays like he has zero accountability.
- Pixote Andolini

It's one game. But if this is a trend this season I think we're at the point where it's even beyond that. Eyes should be on Hextall to get something done with the roster (who hasn't won a playoff series since 2012) or frankly the entire coaching staff that isn't getting the best out their players.

Like I said tho, right now it's one game. Just have to hope they bounce back and use a game like this to their advantage moving forward.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Oct 9 @ 10:35 PM ET
Ghost post game: “I feel so f.. bad for Moose”
- flyer_nutter


he should. he should also feel bad for the fans that paid $ for that (frank)ing garbage.
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