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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:27 AM ET
Unfortunately I think Tyler Pennis will be getting some play time... Leafs have 5 games in 8 nights, I can see people getting swapped in and out.
- TheMussel


Hopefully more in and out than out and in for Pennis (see what I did there? )

Goat needs to find a similar player in the league he can model his game after, but his speed has always been his problem. It's gotten slightly better at top speed, but his edge work and acceleration just can't cope with a modern PP or DZ coverage.

On an aside, Blake Wheeler is pretty good huh? And just signed a 5-year/5.8M contract for being a prolific point-getter, captain, and rare giant at 6'5".

So how much is Nylander asking for again?
gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown
Joined: 02.19.2009

Oct 9 @ 10:28 AM ET
Kapanen is definitely a better skater than Nylander. How often would you see Nylander try to cut inside and blow a tire? Too often!
- bartsch


Nylander's edge work is pretty fantastic though. Kapanen is more of a heat-seeking missile, which is why Babs wants him to develop his heavy/corner game.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
Kapanen is obviously a downgrade in the playmaking/vision/shot categories, but not by a ton; he can play a heavier game than Nylander and I think is a better skater, at least in a straight line.

Putting Nylander on Kadri's line would really give us three balanced lines of attack and I think Johnsson (whenever he decides to get going) is an upgrade on Leivo, who's only hope in hell is to develop a 200' game and play heavier to win some PK time.

- gravyface



Like Babcock said, if Kapanen can play like Hyman plays, he will get more playing time.. I'm ok with Kappy playing with Matthews on a more consistent basis, if he can dig out pucks and battle along the boards to create turnovers. Kid has speed to burn, and soon his hands will keep up with his speed.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 9 @ 10:29 AM ET
How can Toronto score so much when Matthews and Tavares are overrated poop propped up by the Toronto Sports Network?!
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:31 AM ET
How can Toronto score so much when Matthews and Tavares are overrated poop propped up by the Toronto Sports Network?!
- AdamFrench


Their solid d-core.

markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Oct 9 @ 10:32 AM ET

via GIPHY

Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
Hopefully more in and out than out and in for Pennis (see what I did there? )

Goat needs to find a similar player in the league he can model his game after, but his speed has always been his problem. It's gotten slightly better at top speed, but his edge work and acceleration just can't cope with a modern PP or DZ coverage.

On an aside, Blake Wheeler is pretty good huh? And just signed a 5-year/5.8M contract for being a prolific point-getter, captain, and rare giant at 6'5".

So how much is Nylander asking for again?

- gravyface

David Steckel!
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Oct 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
I'm with you. Babcock has never been a proponent of the stretch pass, it's usually the center supporting the D and swinging it, but I think this has more to do with personnel (Gardiner) and poor decision-making in-game.

We don't collapse down low nearly as much as with Carlyle which left the points wide open, but they should be in a support position to help get it out.

It's all about quick transitions and not spending time in their D zone because this team is not equipped to play for long periods of time in their own end.

- gravyface

Seems like this is the way they are being told to play forsure. Not a coinindence that every winger does it all game every game
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Oct 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
David Steckel!
- AdamFrench


now I was going to say Joe Thornton - but indeed, Steckel would be way better..
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 9 @ 10:45 AM ET
David Steckel!
- AdamFrench

JvR?

#IWish
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Oct 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
Lehner for Vezina with the Isles
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Oct 9 @ 11:06 AM ET
Kapanen is obviously a downgrade in the playmaking/vision/shot categories, but not by a ton; he can play a heavier game than Nylander and I think is a better skater, at least in a straight line.

Putting Nylander on Kadri's line would really give us three balanced lines of attack and I think Johnsson (whenever he decides to get going) is an upgrade on Leivo, who's only hope in hell is to develop a 200' game and play heavier to win some PK time.

- gravyface

Once nylander signs, he may start on thr 3rd line for a couple of shifts maybe game or two. But they arent putting a 6.5-7million dollar player on the 3rd line long term.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
Once nylander signs, he may start on thr 3rd line for a couple of shifts maybe game or two. But they arent putting a 6.5-7million dollar player on the 3rd line long term.
- Fakepartofme


Just like Phil
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
Once nylander signs, he may start on thr 3rd line for a couple of shifts maybe game or two. But they arent putting a 6.5-7million dollar player on the 3rd line long term.
- Fakepartofme



or even sent to the Marlies on a conditioning stint
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:20 AM ET
Hey everyone, if you're feeling like Nylander is a bad guy for holding out, just remember that Nick Ritchie is doing the same thing in Anaheim
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 9 @ 11:24 AM ET
Hey everyone, if you're feeling like Nylander is a bad guy for holding out, just remember that Nick Ritchie is doing the same thing in Anaheim
- TheMussel

With all their injuries too...plus he sucks.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
With all their injuries too...plus he sucks.
- AdamFrench


To quote Don Cherry, "They pass Nick Ritchie. He’s 6-foot-3 and 230 pounds. Only three players scored more than this guy. Anaheim picked him up. Bob Murray picked him. He was the executive of the year. He is tough. He can score. He has beautiful hands."
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Oct 9 @ 11:31 AM ET
To quote Don Cherry, "They pass Nick Ritchie. He’s 6-foot-3 and 230 pounds. Only three players scored more than this guy. Anaheim picked him up. Bob Murray picked him. He was the executive of the year. He is tough. He can score. He has beautiful hands."
- TheMussel


TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:32 AM ET

- markmark


Those are David Duchovny's hands.
.HOHO.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Its better to let people think you're an idiot, than to open your mouth and confirm their suspicions, NS
Joined: 07.05.2010

Oct 9 @ 11:33 AM ET
Hey everyone, if you're feeling like Nylander is a bad guy for holding out, just remember that Nick Ritchie is doing the same thing in Anaheim
- TheMussel


If Nylander is stuck on the $8mm per year number,
I hope Dubas sits him the entire year!
(frank) right off $8mm a year!
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Oct 9 @ 11:35 AM ET
Those are David Duchovny's hands.
- TheMussel


Beautiful.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 9 @ 11:42 AM ET
Once nylander signs, he may start on thr 3rd line for a couple of shifts maybe game or two. But they arent putting a 6.5-7million dollar player on the 3rd line long term.
- Fakepartofme


Phil the thrill does.

Same as Ehlers on Winnipeg right now.

But eventually Nylander will (if he ever signs) get put back on Matthews wing, if Babs doesn't do it right away.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:44 AM ET
Phil the thrill does.

Same as Ehlers on Winnipeg right now.

But eventually Nylander will (if he ever signs) get put back on Matthews wing, if Babs doesn't do it right away.

- LeafGuy89


Phil's been bumped up to the 2nd line. Once the leafs win a cup, Nylander will get bumped up too.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Oct 9 @ 11:48 AM ET
Discussion:

When Nylander resigns, does he immediately play on Matthews' wing or do we roll something like this:

Marleau-Matthews-Kapanen
Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Johnsson Kadri Nylander
Plays-8-Minutes

- gravyface


If Kap keeps playing well....yes for sure IMO

Right now Kadri's line is pretty much invisible.
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Oct 9 @ 11:49 AM ET
Hopefully more in and out than out and in for Pennis (see what I did there? )

Goat needs to find a similar player in the league he can model his game after, but his speed has always been his problem. It's gotten slightly better at top speed, but his edge work and acceleration just can't cope with a modern PP or DZ coverage.

On an aside, Blake Wheeler is pretty good huh? And just signed a 5-year/5.8M contract for being a prolific point-getter, captain, and rare giant at 6'5".

So how much is Nylander asking for again?

- gravyface


Yeah really... Wheeler is a machine, is far better than Nylander, being a more complete player and all. Not just some perimeter softy like Nylander. Got what 30 more points than Willy did last year and still took around 6 million dollar contract.

Willy, his dad and his agent are smoking some killer stuff if they aren't budging from 8 million
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