i want an ass plowing tonight. full on. plow.

i want to see the sens lay a great white shart.

is there ketchup on that?

they did it naylor!

you never knoww.

It is really bad. Like bad to the point where he hasn't even really chosen the right visuals to explain a ridiculously obvious premise.
- Aetherial

TSN employs the worst writers

Mainstream media is (frank)ing horrible...I split an athletic sub with 4 guys and it costs me like $10 a year. It’s all I really read.

Guys, Yost has another revolutionary analysis on TSN.

He put up bar graphs that showed the odds of winning the cup vs. finishing in the top whatever in the league.


The graphs CLEARLY showed that teams that finish somewhere in the top 8 of the conference or top 16 in the league, win the cup 100% of the time.

After this hard-hitting, in-depth analysis, he finishes with the following conclusion:



astounding.
- Aetherial

literally.

This is probably because I am a Leafs fan and we have expensive players now, but I would not mind seeing the owners dig in harder this time and sacrifice a whole season and into the next season.

Rick Curran had a quote earlier this week about "the only reason owners want
the players to accept less money is to make up for the bad deals they signed".

He fails to understand that a "bad deal" in this is case is one in which the player negotiated a salary against which they badly under-performed... but yeah, let's blame the owners for the players underperforming and not living up to their contract.

... and last I checked those bad, over-priced contracts went to NHLPA members also did they not?
- Aetherial

These owners are the same ones who are billionaire corporations or are billionaires themselves right? Ones who believe in free enterprise in their businesses but not for players who are the reason people pay money to their hockey teams and generate their revenue?
Are they somehow suddenly stupid and tricked into giving out those contracts? They do it thinking it will increase their profits? Some of them are terrible investment - clarkson, cough- and are obviously so from the get go. I haven’t known if a player yet who is not trying to live up to their contract just to frank over the owner. So I don’t see how the owners are blameless in this. I don’t see crying when a player outperforms their contract or is underpaid compared to their value because they are young with no say in where they work. I don’t see owners ready to give those guys bonuses for overproducing, only whining about
The contracts that don’t work out. They want it all their way.
Both sides negotiate the CBA and each contract. Blame, if there has to be any, would go both ways.
The lockout is a legitimate tool the owners can use to negotiate for what they want in the CBA. Blaming the players for perceived problems in the system is simplistic. If anything things go mostly the owners way as they have much more business acumen and negotiations power and Gary Bettman in their side - a joke to have a commissioner only paid by one side, he does not have any objectivity or neutrality- and he shouldn’t as he paid by the owners to do what is in their best interests not the best interest of players, fans or the game.
Now having said that I hate ridiculous contracts too. I just don’t think laying that all at the feet of players is realistic.

These owners are the same ones who are billionaire corporations or are billionaires themselves right? Ones who believe in free enterprise in their businesses but not for players who are the reason people pay money to their hockey teams and generate their revenue?
Are they somehow suddenly stupid and tricked into giving out those contracts? They do it thinking it will increase their profits? Some of them are terrible investment - clarkson, cough- and are obviously so from the get go. I haven’t known if a player yet who is not trying to live up to their contract just to frank over the owner. So I don’t see how the owners are blameless in this. I don’t see crying when a player outperforms their contract or is underpaid compared to their value because they are young with no say in where they work. I don’t see owners ready to give those guys bonuses for overproducing, only whining about
The contracts that don’t work out. They want it all their way.
Both sides negotiate the CBA and each contract. Blame, if there has to be any, would go both ways.
The lockout is a legitimate tool the owners can use to negotiate for what they want in the CBA. Blaming the players for perceived problems in the system is simplistic. If anything things go mostly the owners way as they have much more business acumen and negotiations power and Gary Bettman in their side - a joke to have a commissioner only paid by one side, he does not have any objectivity or neutrality- and he shouldn’t as he paid by the owners to do what is in their best interests not the best interest of players, fans or the game.
Now having said that I hate ridiculous contracts too. I just don’t think laying that all at the feet of players is realistic.
- Dr. Leaf

It’s pretty (frank)ed

It’s a game we all love and gets people together but when you dig deeper behind the scenes you see a lot of bull poop. It’s sad but it’s the way life goes.

TSN employs the worst writers

Mainstream media is (frank)ing horrible...I split an athletic sub with 4 guys and it costs me like $10 a year. It’s all I really read.
- Santo_44

Umm. Alot of the writers at the athletic for the nhl are mainstream media or former.

So.

i want an ass plowing tonight. full on. plow.

i want to see the sens lay a great white shart.

is there ketchup on that?

they did it naylor!

you never knoww.
- systemtool

I'm not cheap.























30 bucks and I'll do it

I'm not cheap.























30 bucks and I'll do it
- walshyleafsfan

filthy nucks fan.

i want an ass plowing tonight. full on. plow.

i want to see the sens lay a great white shart.

is there ketchup on that?

they did it naylor!

you never knoww.
- systemtool

Post of the year nomination.

TSN employs the worst writers

Mainstream media is (frank)ing horrible...I split an athletic sub with 4 guys and it costs me like $10 a year. It’s all I really read.
- Santo_44

I really enjoy theathletic, not only for Leaf content which there is obviously a lot of but other teams too. Good stuff.

It’s pretty (frank)ed

It’s a game we all love and gets people together but when you dig deeper behind the scenes you see a lot of bull poop. It’s sad but it’s the way life goes.
- Santo_44

Too true.

Currently, it's full cost certainty for 3 years, followed by a declining degree of cost certainty for 4 years, then UFA after 7. With more and more teams caving, and giving their players UFA money starting year 4, extending the ELC duration from 3 to 5 years, in exchange for UFA status from 7 to 5 would be a win for the owners.


Oh, and there will be another lockout, regardless of what happens...that's the only play in Gary's playbook, and it works 100% of the time.
- The Shrike

Pretty sure players are going to be the ones causing this lockout. Owners were willing to let players go to Olympics last year in exchange for extending the CBA if I remember correctly. Players have some things they want to get figured out(escrow) and seems like they will be the ones that will push a lock out if it comes to that.

Last years anthem singer for the Global Series was better.

You could see her tits.

Well that didn't take long.

If I'm feeling blue, there's always the oilers.

EDIT: may have spoken to soon. Mcdavid right on track

If I'm feeling blue, there's always the oilers.

EDIT: may have spoken to soon. Mcdavid right on track
- david22

Mcdavid is alright I guess..

These owners are the same ones who are billionaire corporations or are billionaires themselves right? Ones who believe in free enterprise in their businesses but not for players who are the reason people pay money to their hockey teams and generate their revenue?
Are they somehow suddenly stupid and tricked into giving out those contracts? They do it thinking it will increase their profits? Some of them are terrible investment - clarkson, cough- and are obviously so from the get go. I haven’t known if a player yet who is not trying to live up to their contract just to frank over the owner. So I don’t see how the owners are blameless in this. I don’t see crying when a player outperforms their contract or is underpaid compared to their value because they are young with no say in where they work. I don’t see owners ready to give those guys bonuses for overproducing, only whining about
The contracts that don’t work out. They want it all their way.
Both sides negotiate the CBA and each contract. Blame, if there has to be any, would go both ways.
The lockout is a legitimate tool the owners can use to negotiate for what they want in the CBA. Blaming the players for perceived problems in the system is simplistic. If anything things go mostly the owners way as they have much more business acumen and negotiations power and Gary Bettman in their side - a joke to have a commissioner only paid by one side, he does not have any objectivity or neutrality- and he shouldn’t as he paid by the owners to do what is in their best interests not the best interest of players, fans or the game.
Now having said that I hate ridiculous contracts too. I just don’t think laying that all at the feet of players is realistic.
- Dr. Leaf

Fair arguement, but my post was in response to an agent whose argument was one sided

What the owners should do is go after guaranteed contracts next.

Fair arguement, but my post was in response to an agent whose argument was one sided

What the owners should do is go after guaranteed contracts next.
- Aetherial

Well I agree agents can be full of it. They are of course one sided as the more they get from the player the more they get themselves.
Never understood why a player doesn’t just hire a contract lawyer for a flat fee to negotiate the contract not a percentage and then just have an assistant on salary to take care of day to day stuff.

Im just trying to do this jigsaw puzzle
Before it rains anymore

Larsson is (frank)ing awful.

Im just trying to do this jigsaw puzzle
Before it rains anymore
- Zezel

I'm a master. I did a 200 piece puzzle in just over a year...box said 2 to 4 years.

I'm a master. I did a 200 piece puzzle in just over a year...box said 2 to 4 years.
- Woderwick

Post of the year nomination.

I'm a master. I did a 200 piece puzzle in just over a year...box said 2 to 4 years.
- Woderwick

Nice dive, Wood.

Edmonton is really terrible.