Might the best thing that could ever happen to the Oilers.

It's almost impressive how badly he managed to screw this up.
- Scabeh

I think they’ll be ok this year.


Just as long as they score more and allow less goals.


That’s the only real issue.

yes and no, if you have an athletic subsc. Dellow wrote about this

https://theathletic.com/5...-toward-william-nylander/

the gap could be as much as 15-16 mil, thats a huge difference.
also mentioned is that the Leafs would then have Matthews, Marner and Nylander all without contracts at the same time.

Also factor in, the Leafs are in the win the cup right now window. Lots of factors
- senstroll

Dellows piece was a bad take imo. They have lots of time for the other two, Nylander can sit, his comparable are clearly Ehlers, Pasternak and etc.

I assume you mean Chiarelli, right? Not McDavid?
- PatC80

McDavid for Nylander

I think they’ll be ok this year.


Just as long as they score more and allow less goals.


That’s the only real issue.
- robin_steele264

Yeah, that's one important part of hockey indeed.

Dellows piece was a bad take imo. They have lots of time for the other two, Nylander can sit, his comparable are clearly Ehlers, Pasternak and etc.
- Archaic

Etc especially!

Yeah, that's one important part of hockey indeed.
- Scabeh

and here i've been thinking its about who has more shot attempts.

Yeah, that's one important part of hockey indeed.
- Scabeh

If I was the coach, I would focus on that.

McDavid blamed for Chiarellie's failures, traded to Leafs for pennies on the dollar.

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Leivo-McDavid-Brown
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen
- TheMussel

McDavid as our 3rd line C?

Seems kinda high. Maybe move Kadri up and McDavid to 4C

Lol what do you think.
- robin_steele264

It's the Oilers. That's why I was asking.

If Nylander sat the whole year...do we own his rights an extra year or is he 1 year closer to UFA?

McDavid for Nylander
- Garnie

Cap would need to work out;

McDavid for Nylander, Gardiner, Hainsey and Marleau.

If Nylander sat the whole year...do we own his rights an extra year or is he 1 year closer to UFA?
- Garnie

Very good question.

I have no idea.

Cap would need to work out;

McDavid for Nylander, Gardiner, Hainsey and Marleau.
- PatC80

damn, nvm....just sign KneeEnder already.

It's the Oilers. That's why I was asking.
- PatC80

Ditch the deadweight in McDavid and give his money to Chia.

So if Nylander doesn't sign by Dec 1...he's not able to play the whole year regardless if he's signed or not after?

Crazy.

So if Nylander doesn't sign by Dec 1...he's not able to play the whole year regardless if he's signed or not after?

Crazy.
- Garnie

Yup.

If he signs the day before Dec 1, Leafs get significant cap relief in years following this one

Yup.

If he signs the day before Dec 1, Leafs get significant cap relief in years following this one
- TheMussel

I wish they'd just get it done.....Leaf fans just can't have nice things.

new blog

happy Friday :D

If Nylander sat the whole year...do we own his rights an extra year or is he 1 year closer to UFA?
- Garnie

To get to UFA, you have to have 7 years of NHL or be 27 years old.

If I'm doing the math correct here, if he plays this year, he'd be UFA after the 2021-22 season.

He turns 27 at the end of the 2022-23 season.

So sitting out a year does not get him closer to UFA status.

Please note: I may not have done the math correctly here.

To get to UFA, you have to have 7 years of NHL or be 27 years old.

If I'm doing the math correct here, if he plays this year, he'd be UFA after the 2021-22 season.

He turns 27 at the end of the 2022-23 season.

So sitting out a year does not get him closer to UFA status.

Please note: I may not have done the math correctly here.
- Atomic Wedgie

So sit a year and it just pushes UFA a year farther away?

Makes sense to me.

So sit a year and it just pushes UFA a year farther away?

Makes sense to me.
- Garnie

If it drags on, I have to think he will be traded. I really want him here, but I think the longer this goes on, the bigger the distraction it becomes.

Frank Nylander

He says 'he doesn't know anymore than us'... What the hell? Does his agent not communicate with him what Toronto is offering? Doesn't Willy actually have the final say? Of course the agent will stretch this out to try and get 8 million or whatever ludicrous number he is asking for... does an agent not get a percentage??? Basically, all the agents are bloodsucking lawyers...

If you are dealing with a real estate AGENT they communicate to you what the other party is offering and there is a negotiation that happens. The AGENT is just your representative, but you are actually making the decisions...

Trade this loser for a d-man...

I agree.

The straight up comparable is still probably Pastrnak - who has out produced Nylander (Pastrnak has 2 30 goal seasons @ 70/80 Pts; Nylander has 2 20 goal seasons @ 61 Pts). He signed a 6x6,666,666 deal, which at last year's hit was 8.9% of the cap.

They could either go straight at $7m, which would decrease from 8.8% of the current cap to 6.9% over 8 years, or they could be offering a rated value based on his point totals compared to Pastrnak (if you reduce the cap % by point production based on Pastrnak, you end up at a 7.2% value, or a $5.75m x 6 deal.

I think the most telling statement that came out of all of the statements was when Dubas said they weren't going to "set records" with the deal. Gives us a real sense of what Nylander's camp is asking for. It's north of $8m.
- Monkeypunk

assuming a longer term 6/7/8 years ..it would be around 7.
I think thats were he should fall

might be best just to bridge at this point. delay the issue and see how the next 2 seasons play out. Also he then can see what happened with the other 2 contracts

To get to UFA, you have to have 7 years of NHL or be 27 years old.

If I'm doing the math correct here, if he plays this year, he'd be UFA after the 2021-22 season.

He turns 27 at the end of the 2022-23 season.

So sitting out a year does not get him closer to UFA status.

Please note: I may not have done the math correctly here.
- Atomic Wedgie

from that Dellow piece I posted

Nylander losing a season doesn’t actually hurt him in terms of unrestricted free agency. Nylander spent his age 18 season in Sweden, resulting in his entry-level contract sliding for a year. In his age 19 season, he came over to North America and spent most of the year with the Marlies before playing 22 games with the Leafs. Critically, this didn’t result in him accruing a year towards unrestricted free agency. As a result, Nylander will be an unrestricted free agent in the summer of 2023, regardless of whether he plays a game this season or not.

so yes?

If Nylander sat the whole year...do we own his rights an extra year or is he 1 year closer to UFA?
- Garnie

Yes.

But what are we going to do with a Dotchin on our hands?

Unfortunately for Nylander, with the way the RFA system was created, he really had no leverage.

This was brought in to protect smaller market teams like Toronto