I'm pretty sure I saw a guy living under a box that was the spitting image of Sergei.
- Scabeh

That was Stee

I don't think it matters really.

You can take the Kostitsyn's out of Montreal, but you can't take the Montreal out of the Kostitsyn's.
- PatC80

Same with Galchenyuk.

That was Stee
- Garnie

Oh.

Right.

Hampus is overrated.

THAT'S RIGHT I SAID IT.
- Scabeh

Lindholm is amazing. Go die in a fire.

Your daily reminder - get your predictions in:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...155040&page=last#19105649

including players that signed contracts over 4 or 5 years ago is not fair.

Post what the % of the cap hit was when they signed it.
Example. Jamie benn signed for 5.2 when the cap was 65 mil. which is 8%

8% of the cap today is 6.4

Also Nylander has out produced Benn at the same age
- senstroll

I agree.

The straight up comparable is still probably Pastrnak - who has out produced Nylander (Pastrnak has 2 30 goal seasons @ 70/80 Pts; Nylander has 2 20 goal seasons @ 61 Pts). He signed a 6x6,666,666 deal, which at last year's hit was 8.9% of the cap.

They could either go straight at $7m, which would decrease from 8.8% of the current cap to 6.9% over 8 years, or they could be offering a rated value based on his point totals compared to Pastrnak (if you reduce the cap % by point production based on Pastrnak, you end up at a 7.2% value, or a $5.75m x 6 deal.

I think the most telling statement that came out of all of the statements was when Dubas said they weren't going to "set records" with the deal. Gives us a real sense of what Nylander's camp is asking for. It's north of $8m.

Currently? 0$

And you know what I meant.
- Scabeh

I think this is just something that the media/opposing fans have been dying for.

No real scandals have come out of the Leafs for a while now. Not much to write about except for Judas Snakevares coming home and Auston Matthews being the greatest ever player to play in the league.

Everyone is all of a sudden going to make massive amounts of money, while simultaneusly being voted amongst the most overrated players in the league.

Matthews isn't even close to being McDavid, but should get paid the same
Nylander goes missing in the playoffs and benefits from playing with Matthews. Should make 8m
Marner (to be fair, probably the only Leafs player i've ever seen not get slated by opposing fans/the media) should probably make more than Kucherov, McKinnon, Barkov, Benn, Stamkos etc.) All the while people would go nuts if a Leafs fan would suggest he's on their level.

It's funny to read.

I agree.

The straight up comparable is still probably Pastrnak - who has out produced Nylander (Pastrnak has 2 30 goal seasons @ 70/80 Pts; Nylander has 2 20 goal seasons @ 61 Pts). He signed a 6x6,666,666 deal, which at last year's hit was 8.9% of the cap.

They could either go straight at $7m, which would decrease from 8.8% of the current cap to 6.9% over 8 years, or they could be offering a rated value based on his point totals compared to Pastrnak (if you reduce the cap % by point production based on Pastrnak, you end up at a 7.2% value, or a $5.75m x 6 deal.

I think the most telling statement that came out of all of the statements was when Dubas said they weren't going to "set records" with the deal. Gives us a real sense of what Nylander's camp is asking for. It's north of $8m.
- Monkeypunk

Agreed. It sounds like Nylander and his camp are asking for $8M+ per season.. Which wouldn't work here. For one, he is not worth that and secondly, we wouldn't be able to afford Matthews and Marner next season. I'm worried that if he doesn't budge and this goes into late November that they might look to trade him..

I think this is just something that the media/opposing fans have been dying for.

No real scandals have come out of the Leafs for a while now. Not much to write about except for Judas Snakevares coming home and Auston Matthews being the greatest ever player to play in the league.

Everyone is all of a sudden going to make massive amounts of money, while simultaneusly being voted amongst the most overrated players in the league.

Matthews isn't even close to being McDavid, but should get paid the same
Nylander goes missing in the playoffs and benefits from playing with Matthews. Should make 8m
Marner (to be fair, probably the only Leafs player i've ever seen not get slated by opposing fans/the media) should probably make more than Kucherov, McKinnon, Barkov, Benn, Stamkos etc.) All the while people would go nuts if a Leafs fan would suggest he's on their level.

It's funny to read.
- walshyleafsfan

No one here is suggesting he should make 8M.

Hell I have yet to see anyone claim he's worth that. And anyone who would would be wrong imo.

But people saying Nylander has no right to ask for more than 6,5M are not right either.

It's an intresting case.

You're probably right that anyone wishing for the Leafs demise has had very little to laugh about in the last year so... they'll take what they can.

I, obviously, hope it goes as badly as possible for the Leafs but it's nothing personal.

I think this is just something that the media/opposing fans have been dying for.

No real scandals have come out of the Leafs for a while now. Not much to write about except for Judas Snakevares coming home and Auston Matthews being the greatest ever player to play in the league.

Everyone is all of a sudden going to make massive amounts of money, while simultaneusly being voted amongst the most overrated players in the league.

Matthews isn't even close to being McDavid, but should get paid the same
Nylander goes missing in the playoffs and benefits from playing with Matthews. Should make 8m
Marner (to be fair, probably the only Leafs player i've ever seen not get slated by opposing fans/the media) should probably make more than Kucherov, McKinnon, Barkov, Benn, Stamkos etc.) All the while people would go nuts if a Leafs fan would suggest he's on their level.

It's funny to read.
- walshyleafsfan

McD got 16.6% of the cap

Mathews at 12.5 would be around 15% of the cap.

That’ll be their argument.

McD got 16.6% of the cap

Mathews at 12.5 would be around 15% of the cap.

That’ll be their argument.
- robin_steele264

Ever since Senstroll brought up that cap % thing a few weeks back, I thought it was the smartest argument yet.

No one here is suggesting he should make 8M.

Hell I have yet to see anyone claim he's worth that. And anyone who would would be wrong imo.

But people saying Nylander has no right to ask for more than 6,5M are not right either.

It's an intresting case.

You're probably right that anyone wishing for the Leafs demise has had very little to laugh about in the last year so... they'll take what they can.

I, obviously, hope it goes as badly as possible for the Leafs but it's nothing personal.

- Scabeh

Like a Karl Alzner type debacle?

Like a Karl Alzner type debacle?
- TheMussel

Ouch.

At least he's currently sitting on the bench eating cap space.... instead of sucking on the ice eating cap space.

Ever since Senstroll brought up that cap % thing a few weeks back, I thought it was the smartest argument yet.
- Scabeh

That’s how the agents operate.

Ouch.

At least he's currently sitting on the bench eating cap space.... instead of sucking on the ice eating cap space.
- Scabeh

He's like a Nathan Horton except he doesn't need to have several of his vertebrae fused in order to significantly improve his quality of life

McD got 16.6% of the cap

Mathews at 12.5 would be around 15% of the cap.

That’ll be their argument.
- robin_steele264

McDavid got 16.6%, but he should have gotten a higher percentage, he asked for less money to help out the team and Chiarelli somehow messed that up too..

He's like a Nathan Horton except he doesn't need to have several of his vertebrae fused in order to significantly improve his quality of life
- TheMussel

Is Horton really that messed up?

Jesus christ.

Is Horton really that messed up?

Jesus christ.
- Scabeh

No, no, no.. Worse.

McDavid got 16.6%, but he should have gotten a higher percentage, he asked for less money to help out the team and Chiarelli somehow messed that up too..
- PatC80

I suspect another bad season... or half season... we won’t be seeing him around anymore.

Is Horton really that messed up?

Jesus christ.
- Scabeh

His camp has been really quiet but apparently for people that have his condition, it's the type of thing where you're in constant agony unless you get the surgery, and if you get the surgery you can never play hockey again... so... I think he's been trying to rehab back but unlikely we'll ever hear anything about him again.

I suspect another bad season... or half season... we won’t be seeing him around anymore.
- robin_steele264

I assume you mean Chiarelli, right? Not McDavid?

I assume you mean Chiarelli, right? Not McDavid?
- PatC80

McDavid blamed for Chiarellie's failures, traded to Leafs for pennies on the dollar.

Hyman-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Matthews-Nylander
Leivo-McDavid-Brown
Johnsson-Kadri-Kapanen

I suspect another bad season... or half season... we won’t be seeing him around anymore.
- robin_steele264

Might the best thing that could ever happen to the Oilers.

It's almost impressive how badly he managed to screw this up.

I assume you mean Chiarelli, right? Not McDavid?
- PatC80

Lol what do you think.

Nylander is not part of the Marleau-Marner-Matthews clan.
Nor is he in the Kadri-Tavares-Gagner group.
He's the ugly duck of Leafs' team (ok, maybe with Gauthier and Gardiner).
So he might be out anyways.

Great player.
Not a gud pro.

Dubas still failing though