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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks waive Sam Gagner & Darren Archibald to set their roster
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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:23 PM ET
again, its not specifically about the player as I mentioned. Its strictly managements trend and approach to free agency the last few years. I personally would rather stop gaps and UFA's to be signed to 1 or 2 year contracts max. Term isn't as important, and never really is when you are talking about a non-contending team. The reason why we have 36 million in cap space is because we aren't spending it on elite players like other teams, therefore I don't see cap hits as important as term, on contending teams anyway. Like I said though, just a difference of opinion.
- Codes1087


What notable UFA will sign with a bottom five team for one year?

You sign guys like Burmistrov Weirchoch and Nilsson short term and how exactly have they helped the team?

Once Bo Sven and Brock start scoring everything here won't be doom and gloom. Roussel should be skating by the end of the week.

This D is one year left. We will be scored on a lot so get ready for the complaining.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 1 @ 6:23 PM ET
I am not going to open up this can of warms again man. It was covered in the last few pages of the last blog and the first two pages of this blog. No one is saying it was a mistake to waive Gagner, and Gagner's signing itself was never questions, he was brought in to fill a need, on the PP, and it worked. We are all in agreeance on todays move lol.
To your point about Gagner being waived because of Pettersson. I think Gagner was waived because of Motte. Pettersson beats out nearly every player on the team for a roster spot, let alone roster bubble players.

- Codes1087


Motte less so than Boeser and Petterssen maybe. Motte isnt a PP guy, Boeser *was* the PP and EP is going to contribute. If Gagner was brought in for the PP like we agree...then the PP success of the two play a bigger factor in him being expendable?(with hughes on the way) Motte only pushed the bottom 6 role alone.... but miles and miles more than Gagner as well all know.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:23 PM ET
Toronto didn't have cap worries two years ago.... look now.
Edmonton didn't have cap problems two years ago, look now.

Ffs, you need to look to the future.

- Pres.cup


I have & the math is obvious that our cap is in great shape. We are not the Leafs or Edmonton. When we get a 1oa & have to pay $12m for a megastar I won’t be concerned. Lastly if we are in the position the Leafs got themselves into & can lure a JT type of UFA again i will be dancing.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 1 @ 6:23 PM ET
Why not? You yourself have just said repeatedly that short term cap space is irrelevant in the big picture.
- Nucker101


in a perfect world, I would have loved to acquired stop gaps (veterans) through cap dumps while acquiring something for them, instead of signing UFA's to these deals, especially while we have the space that we have.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
By the time Boeser EP & Hughes get paid our current contracts will have 0 effect on our cap? As for Brock i’m predicting in ghe $6-6.5m range only more if he is 30+ & 70pts or more a season.
- Nighthawk


Hughes could play this year and burn a year. Brock will make more then 6m
The current contracts will still be active when pettersson gets resigned
Louongo has no love for our team.

Go ahead, bury your head in the sand but these contacts could become an issue.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
You need a slimeball GM who will forice him to LTIR island to unofficially retire
- Nucker101



Cues up LL coming here 😂😂
93Nucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 04.04.2018

Oct 1 @ 6:24 PM ET
Eriksson looked real good in the preseason.(not a joke)
- thundachunk

I don't know if you are serious or not, but I'd be intrigued with what he can do with consistent line mates and healthy
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Oct 1 @ 6:25 PM ET
Motte less so than Boeser and Petterssen maybe. Motte isnt a PP guy, Boeser *was* the PP and EP is going to contribute. If Gagner was brought in for the PP like we agree...then the PP success of the two play a bigger factor in him being expendable?(with hughes on the way) Motte only pushed the bottom 6 role alone.... but miles and miles more than Gagner as well all know.
- boonerbuck


At the same token, Gagner was brought in for the PP, and with the exit of the twins, you would think his PP experience would have been even more so utilized today than it was last year. I think Gagner was just beat out plain and simple by everyone else.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:25 PM ET
Why not? You yourself have just said repeatedly that short term cap space is irrelevant in the big picture.
- Nucker101


What short term contract was available and giving up a second round pick ?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:26 PM ET
Gaunce, Gadjovich, Archibald and Motte are all fine future 4th liners.
- Pres.cup

Gaunce is at crossroads & looking to be a journeyman fringe player at best.
Gads has a higher upside fir a good top 9.
Archie will be long gone.
Motte is too difficult to predict presently.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:28 PM ET
THe beagle signing sucked...other two I didn’t mind
- CanuckDon

I think Beagle is highly thought of around the league IMO. He will have to prove it on a lousy team but here in Van that’s not an easy thing to prove to fans.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:29 PM ET
What notable UFA will sign with a bottom five team for one year?

You sign guys like Burmistrov Weirchoch and Nilsson short term and how exactly have they helped the team?

Once Bo Sven and Brock start scoring everything here won't be doom and gloom. Roussel should be skating by the end of the week.

This D is one year left. We will be scored on a lot so get ready for the complaining.

- VANTEL

No notable free agent will sign for 1 year here. They don't need to go after any at this point.

Players like weircoch etc haven't done much. Neither have the "notable" free agent signings.

The team was going to suck regardless so adding term to offers wasn't necessary. There are only 31 teams. There will be enough fringe players to round out a roster so that you don't need to rush prospects. Plus if there is cap space, take on bad contracts as nucker said. Being bad and having cap space is precisely when to do that.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:29 PM ET
At the same token, Gagner was brought in for the PP, and with the exit of the twins, you would think his PP experience would have been even more so utilized today than it was last year. I think Gagner was just beat out plain and simple by everyone else.
- Codes1087



Pettersson was over a PPG at the preseason Gagner did very little and got passed by three prospects
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
Home grown and cured Guanciale, homegrown beefsteak tomatoes, homegrown lemon and black cherry tomatoes, homegrown fresh basil, homegrown garlic simmered all day with a pound of homegrown ground added at hour 4, served over Italian duron wheat pasta with a nice cab sav.

My dinner last night, it was booner inducing.

- Pres.cup



boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
Why are you worried about the term? We have 12 mil in space this year and 36 mil next year . Where is there a problem?
- VANTEL


Narratives
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Oct 1 @ 6:31 PM ET
I don't know if you are serious or not, but I'd be intrigued with what he can do with consistent line mates and healthy
- 93Nucks

Serious no winky and I said it was not a joke I brackets.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:34 PM ET
Serious no winky and I said it was not a joke I brackets.
- thundachunk



Everyone has an opinion . I don't think Eriksson has earned his money at all. He is paid to be a goal scorer.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 1 @ 6:34 PM ET
I don't like cap dump trades at all unless you are sitting at the cap floor .
- VANTEL



Bbbbbut we have 36m in space next season?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
Wow. Someone been triggered.
- RealityChecker


lol... that is exactly what N4U would say... triggered.


Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 1 @ 6:35 PM ET
Why not? You yourself have just said repeatedly that short term cap space is irrelevant in the big picture.
- Nucker101




Busted
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:36 PM ET
lol... that is exactly what N4U would say... triggered.

- boonerbuck

Is that your thing now? Call someone NFU when you get into a disagreement?

Is that the narrative?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 1 @ 6:38 PM ET
What notable UFA will sign with a bottom five team for one year?

You sign guys like Burmistrov Weirchoch and Nilsson short term and how exactly have they helped the team?

Once Bo Sven and Brock start scoring everything here won't be doom and gloom. Roussel should be skating by the end of the week.

This D is one year left. We will be scored on a lot so get ready for the complaining.

- VANTEL


If we are banking on being a bottom team and it looks like we are one, does it really matter this year? Why sign anyone? Top be better then 31st overall? So we can be 30th overall?

That's why I don't like them. Rousell isn't bad but beagle... woof.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:38 PM ET
Bbbbbut we have 36m in space next season?
- Pres.cup



14 players signed next year dumbass
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 1 @ 6:41 PM ET

- Nucker101

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 1 @ 6:41 PM ET
Hughes could play this year and burn a year. Brock will make more then 6m
The current contracts will still be active when pettersson gets resigned
Louongo has no love for our team.

Go ahead, bury your head in the sand but these contacts could become an issue.

- Pres.cup


LE at $6m is our highest contract.
I find its pointless responding to you when you predict without providing the numbers & cap projections. No substance so therefore there will be no further responses to any of your postings.
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