You are bang on with the pro scouting . It bites . Canucks have many other issues also . They have had them for years.

It blows my mind how a guy like Bonino has a good year with Ana comes here and turns into a black hole and leaves and finds his game immediately.

Canucks have a lot of problems and I think Benning is in way over his head but I don't gave an issue with a prospect outplaying a stop gap and making the team.
- VANTEL

With SG being sent down I think the message is clear.

You are bang on with the pro scouting . It bites . Canucks have many other issues also . They have had them for years.

It blows my mind how a guy like Bonino has a good year with Ana comes here and turns into a black hole and leaves and finds his game immediately.

Canucks have a lot of problems and I think Benning is in way over his head but I don't gave an issue with a prospect outplaying a stop gap and making the team.
- VANTEL

Honestly, I feel a ton of our problems would be avoided if Benning didn't commit any term, more than 1 year, to any free agents. I understand that when your prospect pool is bare, its safer to buy time with UFA's than it is to rush, but now that 1 or 2 or 3 kids may or may not be on the cusp of breaking into the league, the term on these UFA signings just begin to become a problem, rather than a solution.

Lines for the #Canucks in practice this AM:

Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser
Goldobin-Pettersson-Eriksson
Motte-Sutter-Virtanen
Schaller-Beagle-Leipsic/Granlund

Edler-Tanev
Del Zotto-Stecher
Pouliot-Gudbranson
Hutton-Biega

Per BB
- Codes1087

True to his word the kids are in the top 6.
Sutter’s line will be very fast.

Booner belongs nowhere in the same sentence as your loins(unless it's slowly simmered pork loins in a spaghetti sauce).
- boonerbuck

Home grown and cured Guanciale, homegrown beefsteak tomatoes, homegrown lemon and black cherry tomatoes, homegrown fresh basil, homegrown garlic simmered all day with a pound of homegrown ground added at hour 4, served over Italian duron wheat pasta with a nice cab sav.

My dinner last night, it was booner inducing.

Yup, that's why I'm worried about this years UFAs, at least their contracts.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Gagne was signed for 3 years and his contract has no issue. They will pay him 3 mil to play in UTICA this year but they have a full roster and 12 mil in space. Buy him out next year and the cap hit is 1.066 for two years.

True to his word the kids are in the top 6.
Sutter’s line will be very fast.
- Nighthawk

Considering the garbage he has to work with and the lack of fight from the scrubs so far, I think TG has handled the lineups pretty well.


The 2nd and 3rd pairings though, man are they going to get lit up.

Does that go the same for Anders Nilsson ?
- Reveen.

Yes, obviously.

With SG being sent down I think the message is clear.
- thundachunk

There is still a lot of room for house cleaning still especially on the D and Goalies

Honestly, I feel a ton of our problems would be avoided if Benning didn't commit any term, more than 1 year, to any free agents. I understand that when your prospect pool is bare, its safer to buy time with UFA's than it is to rush, but now that 1 or 2 or 3 kids may or may not be on the cusp of breaking into the league, the term on these UFA signings just begin to become a problem, rather than a solution.
- Codes1087

Why are you worried about the term? We have 12 mil in space this year and 36 mil next year . Where is there a problem?

Food for thought.


Goldobin had 17 more goals against in 10 more minutes then Gaunce.

To me the issue is pro scouting. Gagner was slow and defensively inept. There must of been better options in that years free agency for a stop gap centre. The UFA signings have been brutal for the most part. Year after year. I understand their strategy, their execution is amateurish and poorly informed.
- Marwood

Idk about UFA signings as being brutal but yes our Pro scouts could be let go. Signings were lacklustre yes. Changing them wouldn’t hurt us at all.

attitude definitely improved in here today.
- bloatedmosquito

Living the hate life.

Yup, that's why I'm worried about this years UFAs, at least their contracts.
- A_SteamingLombardi

That 4th year lingers over us but i don’t see replacement types for 4th line roles in our system. Some ppl like prospects to cut their teeth on tbe 4th line but not I. My reason is low TOI & rather see offensive talent push for top 9 spots.

Idk about UFA signings as being brutal but yes our Pro scouts could be let go. Signings were lacklustre yes. Changing them wouldn’t hurt us at all.
- Nighthawk

pro scouting means trades and signings involving NHL'ers though. Their track record is pretty weak in that department compared to league average.


Gotta call it like it is, we'd be mocking these moves if a divisional rival did the same thing.

Honestly, I feel a ton of our problems would be avoided if Benning didn't commit any term, more than 1 year, to any free agents. I understand that when your prospect pool is bare, its safer to buy time with UFA's than it is to rush, but now that 1 or 2 or 3 kids may or may not be on the cusp of breaking into the league, the term on these UFA signings just begin to become a problem, rather than a solution.
- Codes1087

I agree with 1yr signings only if character players are hard to sign. Constant turnover is not a good thing most often. 2-3yr deals go to solid vets who can hold their own or better. Until our prospects are ready we can use 2-3 propping up the bottom.

Why are you worried about the term? We have 12 mil in space this year and 36 mil next year . Where is there a problem?
- VANTEL

its easy to not be worried about term/cap when your team is poop and you have an abundance of space. Boeser is going to get paid, pettersson is going to get paid, Hughes and so forth. I agree 100%, the cap isn't an issue, but as we see more and more kids push for jobs, we are going to see more veterans being pushed for jobs, and more veterans waived, thus making these longer term UFA signings irrelevant. My issue is more so the trend, of bottom 6 UFA's being given term when the team is on the cusp of having so many kids readily available. They may not be ready now, but I would imagine Gaudette beats Beagle for a job next year. Dahlen perhaps beating ____. I think ideally, waiving veterans and eating cap is not something any GM willingly wants to do if he can anyway avoid it (Benning admitted in the press conference today he explored all options on the trade front for Gagner but had no takers).

Why are you worried about the term? We have 12 mil in space this year and 36 mil next year . Where is there a problem?
- VANTEL

We have no cap concerns now or for years to get worred over. Sometimes ppl don’t project it far enough. I’d look at roster spots later down tbe road & ignore contracts entirely.

We have no cap concerns now or for years to get worred over. Sometimes ppl don’t project it far enough. I’d look at roster spots later down tbe road & ignore contracts entirely.
- Nighthawk

then why has Benning not even once took on a cap dump?

pro scouting means trades and signings involving NHL'ers though. Their track record is pretty weak in that department compared to league average.


Gotta call it like it is, we'd be mocking these moves if a divisional rival did the same thing.
- Nucker101

I give our Pro scouts no credit. That said trades are becoming more & more difficult nowadays. Given stars get the huge longterm money & prospects on ELC are golden the middle class is squeezed. Shorter term for middle class players is important for us going forward..3-4yrs.

I give our Pro scouts no credit. That said trades are becoming more & more difficult nowadays. Given stars get the huge longterm money & prospects on ELC are golden the middle class is squeezed. Shorter term for middle class players is important for us going forward..3-4yrs.
- Nighthawk

This is exactly why I'm against trading picks for other team's AHL prospects. Every GM knows that good ELC players or RFA players with no contract leverage are worth gold, so if a GM is willing to give up one of those players up then there has to be a red flag or 2 with the player.


If it's a unique situation where the young player is good and maybe just doesn't see eye to eye with the NHL head coach or something or has had injury problems then I can see taking a gamble, but that's about it.

its easy to not be worried about term/cap when your team is poop and you have an abundance of space. Boeser is going to get paid, pettersson is going to get paid, Hughes and so forth. I agree 100%, the cap isn't an issue, but as we see more and more kids push for jobs, we are going to see more veterans being pushed for jobs, and more veterans waived, thus making these longer term UFA signings irrelevant. My issue is more so the trend, of bottom 6 UFA's being given term when the team is on the cusp of having so many kids readily available. They may not be ready now, but I would imagine Gaudette beats Beagle for a job next year. Dahlen perhaps beating ____. I think ideally, waiving veterans and eating cap is not something any GM willingly wants to do if he can anyway avoid it (Benning admitted in the press conference today he explored all options on the trade front for Gagner but had no takers).
- Codes1087

Boeser will get paid next year and we have 36 mil
Pettersson will get paid in 3 years and Hughes in 4 just as all the other contracts come off the books . IT WON'T MATTER

I knew Biega would make the team

There is still a lot of room for house cleaning still especially on the D and Goalies
- VANTEL

It does mean stealth tanking is in high gear & they are also the hardest positions to fill with Elite talent & the time it takes to draft & develop.




Ignoring goalies & looking ahead to the next draft...

If we lose out on Hughes does Broberg or Byram start to make the most sense?
I like Podkinzy but is trading down to target D a wiser move?

Boeser will get paid next year and we have 36 mil
Pettersson will get paid in 3 years and Hughes in 4 just as all the other contracts come off the books . IT WON'T MATTER
- VANTEL

lol relax man, its just my opinion. I am not fond of bottom 6 UFA signings past 1 year, and you disagree, no need to shout lol. Different philosophies on how to run a team, doesn't make one right or wrong lol

I knew Biega would make the team
- NorthNuck

I'm glad he did.


at least it looks like he gives a poop during every shift, even though he'll always be limited due to his size and lack of skill.