no canucks fan is arguing that waiving him was a mistake. we're arguing whether signing him (at all) was a small mistake or a total non-issue.

what does that tell you about gagner?
- RealityChecker

I’m going with small mistake but for me it’s a non issue. The issue for me is good because Benning did the right thing.

I am actually looking forward to the season. Win or lose this team will be exciting again soon.

Do you think Gagne can still score 8 points a night in the AHL?

It's worse if Benning held onto Gagner just cuz he didn't want to look bad.

I like Benning more now that he moved on from a guy not living up to his deal.

It's worse if Benning held onto Gagner just cuz he didn't want to look bad.

I like Benning more now that he moved on from a guy not living up to his deal.
- kaptaan

no one is criticizing benning for waiving gagner. I don't think one person has voiced displeasure in this move.

Should we grab chaput off waivers just in case?!
- canucksfan1944

I was hoping for Connor Carrick but nope.

Carol,

Thank you for yet another excellent blog post & congrats on the national coverage on the Kelowna game summary!

Last in Division
Last in Conference
29th overall
Picking 2nd (though I’d love the storyline of first overall pick as host)

I was hoping for Connor Carrick but nope.
- manvanfan

That would have been a real difference maker.

Lines for the #Canucks in practice this AM:

Baertschi-Horvat-Boeser
Goldobin-Pettersson-Eriksson
Motte-Sutter-Virtanen
Schaller-Beagle-Leipsic/Granlund

Edler-Tanev
Del Zotto-Stecher
Pouliot-Gudbranson
Hutton-Biega

Per BB
- Codes1087

Nice. This is as good of a lineup as we could hope for IMO.

Carol,

Thank you for yet another excellent blog post & congrats on the national coverage on the Kelowna game summary!

Last in Division
Last in Conference
29th overall
Picking 2nd (though I’d love the storyline of first overall pick as host)
- SlightlyOffside

Top3 will be good enough!

Nice. This is as good of a lineup as we could hope for IMO.
- neem55

I would have waived Hutton or Biega over Gagner.

no one is criticizing benning for waiving gagner. I don't think one person has voiced displeasure in this move.
- Codes1087

If Pettersson was not ready this year would Gagner still be a Canuck ? Probably .

So why is signing or waiving a stop gap a huge issue ? When Gaudette is ready Sutter will probably be moved. When Hughes is ready MDZ will be moved.

Nice. This is as good of a lineup as we could hope for IMO.
- neem55

I agree. I think the top 6 is as good as its going to get. I imagine Rousel slots in the 3rd line and replaces Motte and Motte can hopefully slide to the 4th and Granlund/Schaller sit.

I agree. I think the top 6 is as good as its going to get. I imagine Rousel slots in the 3rd line and replaces Motte and Motte can hopefully slide to the 4th and Granlund/Schaller sit.
- Codes1087

Schaller and Granlund really showed nothing at camp either. It could have just as easily been one of them except neither is making 3 million either.

If Pettersson was not ready this year would Gagner still be a Canuck ? Probably .

So why is signing or waiving a stop gap a huge issue ? When Gaudette is ready Sutter will probably be moved. When Hughes is ready MDZ will be moved.
- VANTEL

To me the issue is pro scouting. Gagner was slow and defensively inept. There must of been better options in that years free agency for a stop gap centre. The UFA signings have been brutal for the most part. Year after year. I understand their strategy, their execution is amateurish and poorly informed.

Schaller and Granlund really showed nothing at camp either. It could have just as easily been one of them except neither is making 3 million either.
- thundachunk

True, I think the message to the team is much louder by making it SG though. Almost nobody is safe if they under perform/think they are owed anything.

If Pettersson was not ready this year would Gagner still be a Canuck ? Probably .

So why is signing or waiving a stop gap a huge issue ? When Gaudette is ready Sutter will probably be moved. When Hughes is ready MDZ will be moved.
- VANTEL

I am not going to open up this can of warms again man. It was covered in the last few pages of the last blog and the first two pages of this blog. No one is saying it was a mistake to waive Gagner, and Gagner's signing itself was never questions, he was brought in to fill a need, on the PP, and it worked. We are all in agreeance on todays move lol.
To your point about Gagner being waived because of Pettersson. I think Gagner was waived because of Motte. Pettersson beats out nearly every player on the team for a roster spot, let alone roster bubble players.

I would have waived Hutton or Biega over Gagner.
- manvanfan

Could still waive them both. One is going to be waived soon enough once Juolevi makes a good showing in Utica.

To me the issue is pro scouting. Gagner was slow and defensively inept. There must of been better options in that years free agency for a stop gap centre. The UFA signings have been brutal for the most part. Year after year. I understand their strategy, their execution is amateurish and poorly informed.
- Marwood

Yup, that's why I'm worried about this years UFAs, at least their contracts.

I would have waived Hutton or Biega over Gagner.
- manvanfan

They will all have to be waived if no one is willing to trade for them.

Yup, that's why I'm worried about this years UFAs, at least their contracts.
- A_SteamingLombardi

We can just waive them! Joking aside, I think AR and beagle were needed. No floating around / soft play like SG or granlund. Shaller I don't think they sign if they know Motte was going to play so well.

On Gagner he didn’t produce & I thought he should be waived & help Utica. His D isn’t good enough to get by & earn a spot.
Goldobin is better to run with in his place.
Archie is simply not consistent enough to be bottom 3 but he’s likeable. Possible call up.
Glad to see Motte make the team & hope he can give it 82 games of energy.

In the end i see JB & TG will do what it takes in waiving Gagner. Appears they see Goldy has improved & rewarded Motte.

To me the issue is pro scouting. Gagner was slow and defensively inept. There must of been better options in that years free agency for a stop gap centre. The UFA signings have been brutal for the most part. Year after year. I understand their strategy, their execution is amateurish and poorly informed.
- Marwood

You are bang on with the pro scouting . It bites . Canucks have many other issues also . They have had them for years.

It blows my mind how a guy like Bonino has a good year with Ana comes here and turns into a black hole and leaves and finds his game immediately.

Canucks have a lot of problems and I think Benning is in way over his head but I don't gave an issue with a prospect outplaying a stop gap and making the team.

To wrap up today—how concerned are you about the Canucks' 1-6-0 record in preseason?

I am not concerned at all, in fact I think you could extrapolate those figures to mirror the upcoming season.

"Where do you think the *Canucks* will finish in the division, the conference and the league?"

I think they finish last in their division, last in their conference and 3rd last in the league.
- Makita

That could very well all come true.

I would have waived Hutton or Biega over Gagner.
- manvanfan

I'd waive Pouliot before Hutton right now


Also Schaller and Granlund if we're going off of pre-season.

I am not going to open up this can of warms again man. It was covered in the last few pages of the last blog and the first two pages of this blog. No one is saying it was a mistake to waive Gagner, and Gagner's signing itself was never questions, he was brought in to fill a need, on the PP, and it worked. We are all in agreeance on todays move lol.
To your point about Gagner being waived because of Pettersson. I think Gagner was waived because of Motte. Pettersson beats out nearly every player on the team for a roster spot, let alone roster bubble players.
- Codes1087

Well then we are all in agreement . Next big balls move is Eriksson and that one will take talent to fix. Eriksson is the entire reason I am glad we didn't try to fix the scoring.