Not try'n to pull a Trump here..

But i scored the highest in my highschool in gr 12.. 134 female doges! But that was in North Bay so its not really saying much.. I beat out some little Asian girl named Pheobe, her parents were probably pissed as (frank), while mine refuse to believe me to this day
- Arctic_AARDVARK

nice one!

So I was watching some youtube video, and some guy posted this in regards to Nylander:

"There's a loophole in the CBA. If they wait until the season starts the longer into the season they wait the smaller his cap hit will be after year 1. So if they sign him for 8years x 7 mill his first year cap hit would be like 7.5 but for the 7 years after it would be like 6.75m saving the Leafs a quarter mill in cap space each year."

Any validity to this?

Not try'n to pull a Trump here..

But i scored the highest in my highschool in gr 12.. 134 female doges! But that was in North Bay so its not really saying much.. I beat out some little Asian girl named Pheobe, her parents were probably pissed as (frank), while mine refuse to believe me to this day
- Arctic_AARDVARK

So I was watching some youtube video, and some guy posted this in regards to Nylander:

"There's a loophole in the CBA. If they wait until the season starts the longer into the season they wait the smaller his cap hit will be after year 1. So if they sign him for 8years x 7 mill his first year cap hit would be like 7.5 but for the 7 years after it would be like 6.75m saving the Leafs a quarter mill in cap space each year."

Any validity to this?
- mel_vin

Not sure how much they'd really save but logically, you'd think he'd have to miss more than just a few games (think like into December) before it had any huge or even significant cap impact.

- Unholy_Goalie

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I'm watching the Sharks-Vegas game.
Watching Erik Karlsson play hockey... He's just f'n fantastic.

So I was watching some youtube video, and some guy posted this in regards to Nylander:

"There's a loophole in the CBA. If they wait until the season starts the longer into the season they wait the smaller his cap hit will be after year 1. So if they sign him for 8years x 7 mill his first year cap hit would be like 7.5 but for the 7 years after it would be like 6.75m saving the Leafs a quarter mill in cap space each year."

Any validity to this?
- mel_vin

Idk.. (frank)in' Google it b'y.

I'm watching the Sharks-Vegas game.
Watching Erik Karlsson play hockey... He's just f'n fantastic.
- 21peter

Yeah i agree..

Do you think Vegas will be legit again this year?

Not sure how much they'd really save but logically, you'd think he'd have to miss more than just a few games (think like into December) before it had any huge or even significant cap impact.
- Unholy_Goalie

Funny you say that, since I think it was even Dubas himself who mentioned something about if deal not signed by some date in December he wouldnt be able to play this season...

the plot thickens.

Didnt they hire some cap guru in the office?

Yeah i agree..

Do you think Vegas will be legit again this year?
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Well, it sure looks like it... How and why? Nobody seems to know

Ok so 2-3 spots and down to Holl, Oz, Carrick and... wtf?!?! Marincin??? Dafuq?!?!??

Just gonna wait till tuesday to see what happens in the end.

I'm watching the Sharks-Vegas game.
Watching Erik Karlsson play hockey... He's just f'n fantastic.
- 21peter

(frank)in' shame they didn't trade Nylander for him when they had the chance. Huge lost opportunity.

Funny you say that, since I think it was even Dubas himself who mentioned something about if deal not signed by some date in December he wouldnt be able to play this season...

the plot thickens.

Didnt they hire some cap guru in the office?
- mel_vin

If they wanted to keep the cap hit low and they were both on the same page and both agreed not to (frank) each other over, they'd be better off giving him a 1 year, 10 million dollar deal and giving him an 8 year extension in December so he gets all the extra money but keeps the cap hit low on the 8 year deal.

Ok so 2-3 spots and down to Holl, Oz, Carrick and... wtf?!?! Marincin??? Dafuq?!?!??

Just gonna wait till tuesday to see what happens in the end.
- Roadrunner75

They sent down all the guys that don't have to pass through waivers. Some of the guys, like Marcinin, are sticking around because they're exposed to waivers, not because they're actually better.

If they wanted to keep the cap hit low and they were both on the same page and both agreed not to (frank) each other over, they'd be better off giving him a 1 year, 10 million dollar deal and giving him an 8 year extension in December so he gets all the extra money but keeps the cap hit low on the 8 year deal.
- Unholy_Goalie

Is that even legal to do? There is a lot of faith that would need to be had by both parties. Only way Id see that even possible is that they would need to agree ahead of time with a predated contract for the extension regardless of the season he would have.

I dunno, risky on both parties. He could have a fantastic year and think to himself, nope I want 10 mil to stay, leafs are screwed. He could get a career ending injury which would be insured by the leafs / LITR, if he has no contract he'd be screwed.

(frank)in' shame they didn't trade Nylander for him when they had the chance. Huge lost opportunity.
- Unholy_Goalie

Whether you think it would have been a smart move or not, rumour has it the Sens turned down good packages from eastern teams, because they wanted him out of conference.


Somehow I doubt that the guy who wanted to ban Leafs fans from games would be cool with seeing arguably the best player in team history play against his team of nobodies.

When HO HO sees this, he's going to piss himself.
- winsix

Not try'n to pull a Trump here..

But i scored the highest in my highschool in gr 12.. 134 female doges! But that was in North Bay so its not really saying much.. I beat out some little Asian girl named Pheobe, her parents were probably pissed as (frank), while mine refuse to believe me to this day
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Knife to a gun fight!


Have you met my hat?

Whether you think it would have been a smart move or not, rumour has it the Sens turned down good packages from eastern teams, because they wanted him out of conference.
- Feeling Glucky?

"Good" packages is a relative term. If you talk to them now, they'd probably think they got a "great" return even though they really didn't and have to save face to pretend like they did. Any deal out there would have looked like poop to both management and their fan base compared to a package that included Nylander.

Somehow I doubt that the guy who wanted to ban Leafs fans from games would be cool with seeing arguably the best player in team history play against his team of nobodies.

Irrelevant. Banning Leafs fans has more to do with trying to create an advantage and/or an atmosphere of home ice. That has nothing to do with a deal that helps their team recover from losing Karlsson and as stated before, any deal involving Nylander would have blown the doors off of whatever other garbage offers they were getting for Karlsson, considering what they settled for.

Is that even legal to do? There is a lot of faith that would need to be had by both parties. Only way Id see that even possible is that they would need to agree ahead of time with a predated contract for the extension regardless of the season he would have.

I dunno, risky on both parties. He could have a fantastic year and think to himself, nope I want 10 mil to stay, leafs are screwed. He could get a career ending injury which would be insured by the leafs / LITR, if he has no contract he'd be screwed.
- mel_vin

It wouldn't be any more or less legal than waiting longer to sign him to keep the cap hit low. The basic problem is that Nylander wants real dollars and the Leafs want cap flexibility. Giving him a huge 1 year deal helps both sides. Nylander gets big money while the team can afford to do it and long term the Leafs get a lower cap hit.

The risk is if Nylander turns his back on the team, says (frank) you, give me a huge qualifying offer or I walk as a UFA. It would be a major Richard move but they'd have to agree to be on the same page about all the numbers and agree not to (frank) each other over.

Career ending injuries are a lot less common than they use to be. Outside of a neck, spine or a series of major concussions, pretty much every injury is treated rather well. It's a risk but a far smaller one than it use to be.

It wouldn't be any more or less legal than waiting longer to sign him to keep the cap hit low. The basic problem is that Nylander wants real dollars and the Leafs want cap flexibility. Giving him a huge 1 year deal helps both sides. Nylander gets big money while the team can afford to do it and long term the Leafs get a lower cap hit.

The risk is if Nylander turns his back on the team, says (frank) you, give me a huge qualifying offer or I walk as a UFA. It would be a major Richard move but they'd have to agree to be on the same page about all the numbers and agree not to (frank) each other over.

Career ending injuries are a lot less common than they use to be. Outside of a neck, spine or a series of major concussions, pretty much every injury is treated rather well. It's a risk but a far smaller one than it use to be.
- Unholy_Goalie

I'm willing to bet this goes on until 3am and will only end when youre the only one you have left to argue with. I'll check back in the morning. When I have this thing called a job to go to.

Whether you think it would have been a smart move or not, rumour has it the Sens turned down good packages from eastern teams, because they wanted him out of conference.


Somehow I doubt that the guy who wanted to ban Leafs fans from games would be cool with seeing arguably the best player in team history play against his team of nobodies.
- Feeling Glucky?

This is common knowledge, but the twat will still argue it anyways. It's part of why Ottawa gets an extra first if san jose trades him to the East...but he'll dismiss it after he argues it till 3am.

This is common knowledge, but the twat will still argue it anyways. It's part of why Ottawa gets an extra first if san jose trades him to the East...but he'll dismiss it after he argues it till 3am.
- systemtool

- .HOHO.

This is common knowledge, but the twat will still argue it anyways. It's part of why Ottawa gets an extra first if san jose trades him to the East...but he'll dismiss it after he argues it till 3am.
- systemtool

Or maybe they didn't want San Jose making them look like idiots again and getting more for Karlsson than the Senators could get for him like what happened with Hoffman. The Sharks got more for Hoffman than Ottawa did, how (frank)ing stupid would they look if San Jose flipped him to Tampa Bay for more than what they gave up to get him from Ottawa?

If Ottawa was offered a good enough package from the Leafs (which Nylander would have been way better than anything else they were offered) they would have considered the deal and ultimately made the deal because it's better for their team than the pile of spare parts they got from San Jose. They may spite the Leafs to a certain degree and even make them pay more for Karlsson, but they wouldn't shoot themselves in the foot just to spite the Leafs if there was a legitimately better offer on the table.