The insinuation is that every player is an extrovert who loves old school socializing habits.

Maybe just maybe some of these players are introverts who get their mental peace by playing a game with their friends or reading books or going to museums.
- Lindenis#1

you get ostracized for wanting to go to the damn museum instead of going out after a team dinner to moxies. The old school mentality is absolutely ridiculous

He mentioned that in Florida, Willie Mitchell told him to be less physical and stick check more.

If he’s gonna suck anyway then I’d rather have him knock out some of the dbag forwards in the division.


(frank) you Willie
- Nucker101

Guddy had like 6 good games last year. CBJ, Montreal, Edmonton, LA... Dallas? And one other.

Its amazing what can happen when a 6'4 guy doesn't play like he's in a non-contact league.

you get ostracized for wanting to go to the damn museum instead of going out after a team dinner to moxies. The old school mentality is absolutely ridiculous
- Codes1087

High performance athlete decides to go for a mental break rather than put average food in himself along with alcohol, which is technically poison. What a dildo.

you get ostracized for wanting to go to the damn museum instead of going out after a team dinner to moxies. The old school mentality is absolutely ridiculous
- Codes1087

I think some of it’s that they’re choosing games OVER the team building and dinners et al. I think it’s overblown, but get the hate if it’s interfering with the team/their personal commitment. But, that said, the coke and drinking also does that — though that isn’t nearly as everyday as it used to be.

I think some of it’s that they’re choosing games OVER the team building and dinners et al. I think it’s overblown, but get the hate if it’s interfering with the team/their personal commitment. But, that said, the coke and drinking also does that — though that isn’t nearly as everyday as it used to be.
- NewYorkNuck

Games might be how they decompress now. Maybe that's how EP and Boeser and whoever else are getting to know each other. Like dinners are for old nutsacks.

Having a leadership group that could be saying "You don't like what you like. You'll like what I tell you to like." isn't a great thing.

Do you think it’s possible, and I’m just spit balling here, that it isn’t the effort, or “compete” level that’s the problem, but the actual skill level of the players themselves. I mean, maybe Gaudette (your example) is actually trying his best, but just isn’t good enough for the NHL?
- 1970vintage

You know I guess that's could be it, but one can usually recognizes hustle or compete when seeing it. And although I used Gaudette as an example there were several other guys that I would have expected to push harder than it appeared they did. Having said that I have no problem sending the likes OJ, TD, AG, UD, amongst others to Utica to learn the game some more while the Canucks struggle to even win a few games. I do believe that several of the Canucks prospects have potential to be good hockey players, but so much depends on how they are handled/developed as well as their own drive to be successful.

My predication for October, 9pts. Not that my predications are worth anything.

Once the lineups had actual NHLers in it he looked like a bad version of Del Zotto.
- Lindenis#1

No he didin't

Guddy was the only Canuck last night to throw a big hit and had one of the best scoring chances.

Games might be how they decompress now. Maybe that's how EP and Boeser and whoever else are getting to know each other. Like dinners are for old nutsacks.

Having a leadership group that could be saying "You don't like what you like. You'll like what I tell you to like." isn't a great thing.
- Lindenis#1

Maybe, maybe not. Let’s not draw conclusions out of hypotheticals.

Having an inclusive leadership group is always great, but we have no idea what’s actually happening behind the scenes besides some hearsay and one sound bite...

Guddy was the only Canuck last night to throw a big hit and had one of the best scoring chances.
- VANTEL

He struggles against speedy forwards, which is unfortunately what this league is now full of

He struggles against forwards, which is unfortunately what this league is full of
- Nucker101

Fixed

He struggles against speedy forwards, which is unfortunately what this league is now full of
- Nucker101

So does everyone

I think some of it’s that they’re choosing games OVER the team building and dinners et al. I think it’s overblown, but get the hate if it’s interfering with the team/their personal commitment. But, that said, the coke and drinking also does that — though that isn’t nearly as everyday as it used to be.
- NewYorkNuck

If I remember correctly there is a story about Eddie Balfour and Alex Auld almost getting into a fight because Eddie was so gunned on coke during their Dallas days.

So much better than gaming.

So does everyone
- VANTEL

In the league? Not really lol.

On the Canucks? Most do, yes.

Tanev isn't fast, but yet he's a good skater when it comes to changing directions and skating backwards, great at positioning and stick checking so he's just fine against speedy forwards. So were guys like Hamhuis(before he declined), Salo, etc.


The rest of the defense does struggle against speed though

And saying Gudbranson is "bad" against speedy forwards is being nice, he's atrocious against speed.

He was born too late, would have been a beast 15 years ago.

If I remember correctly there is a story about Eddie Balfour and Alex Auld almost getting into a fight because Eddie was so gunned on coke during their Dallas days.

So much better than gaming.
- bloatedmosquito

I think I remember that. He ended up shoving Auld or Auld somehow got injured and Eddie had to play the next night and had a shutout while being a hungover/crashed mess.

In the league? Not really lol.

On the Canucks? Most do, yes.

Tanev isn't fast, but yet he's a good skater when it comes to changing directions and skating backwards, great at positioning and stick checking so he's just fine against speedy forwards. So were guys like Hamhuis(before he declined), Salo, etc.


The rest of the defense does struggle against speed though

And saying Gudbranson is "bad" against speedy forwards is being nice, he's atrocious against speed.

He was born too late, would have been a beast 15 years ago.
- Nucker101

Gudbrandson is the only player on the Canucks that had huge hits in the last two games.

He is very much overpaid and should be playing 10 minutes a night . Yet you see posters in here suggesting he plays top minutes with Edler . It is not his fault that this team is bad he is only one of the many problems.

Stecher Edler as a top pair tells you why we are what we are.

I seen players passing Hamhuis his last two years and same with Bieksa .

If Players played where they were suppose to play there would be less of a problem.Gudbrandson is a bottom pairing minute a night guy only.

If I remember correctly there is a story about Eddie Balfour and Alex Auld almost getting into a fight because Eddie was so gunned on coke during their Dallas days.

So much better than gaming.
- bloatedmosquito

Ah, those were much simpler days, when jocks were jocks and nerds were nerds.

Gudbrandson is the only player on the Canucks that had huge hits in the last two games.

He is very much overpaid and should be playing 10 minutes a night . Yet you see posters in here suggesting he plays top minutes with Edler . It is not his fault that this team is bad he is only one of the many problems.

Stecher Edler as a top pair tells you why we are what we are.

I seen players passing Hamhuis his last two years and same with Bieksa .

If Players played where they were suppose to play there would be less of a problem.Gudbrandson is a bottom pairing minute a night guy only.
- VANTEL

I agree, he's one of the many problems, everyone on this defense is in over their heads, even Tanev and Edler.

The entire roster is probably in over their heads except for Boeser, who does look like a legit top line winger for even a playoff team.

I'm just saying that I'd like to see the coaching staff maybe limit his responsibility a bit and let him go back to just hitting guys, even if it means getting caught out of position. It can't be worse than what we've seen from him so far in a Canucks jersey.


Less minutes might also help him stay healthier.

I agree, he's one of the many problems, everyone on this defense is in over their heads, even Tanev and Edler. Same with the goalies, same with most of the forwards outside of Boeser.

I'm just saying that I'd like to see the coaching staff maybe limit his responsibility a bit and let him go back to just hitting guys, even if it means getting caught out of position. It can't be worse than what we've seen from him so far in a Canucks jersey.


Less minutes might also help him stay healthier.
- Nucker101

That would be a good plan. Guddy is a big boy they should stop trying to make him play like Shea Theodore.

Last night I seen Lucic out hustle Hutton in a foot race and set up goal in the third

If Guddy had half the balls that Stecher has to mix it up then no one would be complaining about Guddy. You can't stack 2 stechers together to get Guddy physically but the midget has has more fire in him than most of the Canucks defence.

Plus he can make a play with his feet or puck skills. Something this team lacks.
- Lindenis#1

Stecher has played well for a few periods, that’s about all. I liked his play in the preseason....the preseason. He will never measure up to Gudbranson in so called mixing it up along the boards.

He has a better breakout pass, great speed, but mixing it up is not his strong suit.

I’d take a lottery ticket over more scraps



1 good player > 20 scrubs
- Nucker101

I'd say that pullout is a better lotto ticket then a 4th rounder.

Maybe, maybe not. Let’s not draw conclusions out of hypotheticals.

Having an inclusive leadership group is always great, but we have no idea what’s actually happening behind the scenes besides some hearsay and one sound bite...
- NewYorkNuck

Exactly he is purely speculating. even worse, he is a huge nerd 😡🤢

Guddy was the only Canuck last night to throw a big hit and had one of the best scoring chances.
- VANTEL

Careful that doesn’t fit the narrative here.

I'd say that pullout is a better lotto ticket then a 4th rounder.
- Pres.cup

If you believe he has top 4 potential then sure, if you're like me and don't think so then no. I'll take my chances with the top 100 draft pick and hope for a homerun, even if it's not likely.

higher variance asset > lower variance/safe asset


Especially for rebuilding teams