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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
Nothing to lose.

I really thought Nilsson played his last game as a Canuck last season...

- LordHumungous


5GAA > 6GAA
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
5GAA > 6GAA
- Codes1087

lol
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:04 AM ET
lol
- LordHumungous


in all seriousness, it wouldn't hurt to claim him and waive Nilsson.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:06 AM ET
in all seriousness, it wouldn't hurt to claim him and waive Nilsson.
- Codes1087

I agree. Nilsson just can't compete consistently at the NHL level.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:09 AM ET
I still don’t see many freakouts in here. Just some disappointment in the lack of fight for spots and some troll posts that people keep taking the bait on(Gaunce, etc).


I feel like it’s really the pro-Benning crowd who’s more on edge and are just looking for freakouts to make fun of.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:19 AM ET
I still don’t see many freakouts in here. Just some disappointment in the lack of fight for spots and some troll posts that people keep taking the bait on(Gaunce, etc).


I feel like it’s really the pro-Benning crowd who’s more on edge and are just looking for freakouts to make fun of.

- Nucker101


yep. You're a whiner if you make any sort of criticism. You are "freaking out" if you go against the grain in any sort of matter.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:21 AM ET
I still don’t see many freakouts in here. Just some disappointment in the lack of fight for spots and some troll posts that people keep taking the bait on(Gaunce, etc).


I feel like it’s really the pro-Benning crowd who’s more on edge and are just looking for freakouts to make fun of.

- Nucker101

i'm starting to freak out over kenyan drake. re-assure me. gase said (in the off season) he was going to get a sh!t ton of work but he's splitting with old man gore.

i'm starting hyde over him.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:26 AM ET
in all seriousness, it wouldn't hurt to claim him and waive Nilsson.
- Codes1087

Agreed.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:45 AM ET
in all seriousness, it wouldn't hurt to claim him and waive Nilsson.
- Codes1087

It would upset Leafs fans so we should definitely do it!
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 27 @ 11:47 AM ET
It would upset Leafs fans so we should definitely do it!
- CanuckDon


absolutely nothing to lose. We have the $, our goaltending sucks, Sparks is a proven AHL goalie, who hasn't been able to get a shot in the NHL. Wouldn't make a ton of sense to not do it.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 11:55 AM ET
absolutely nothing to lose. We have the $, our goaltending sucks, Sparks is a proven AHL goalie, who hasn't been able to get a shot in the NHL. Wouldn't make a ton of sense to not do it.
- Codes1087

exactly. not like he could do worse than what's there.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:06 PM ET
absolutely nothing to lose. We have the $, our goaltending sucks, Sparks is a proven AHL goalie, who hasn't been able to get a shot in the NHL. Wouldn't make a ton of sense to not do it.
- Codes1087


The only potential downside I can see is Demko and his feelings.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 27 @ 12:09 PM ET
The only potential downside I can see is Demko and his feelings.
- 1970vintage


Hurt leaf feelings >Demko feelings

We should totally do it, even if it means waiving gaunce to carry 3 goalies it'd be worth it.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Isnt the point to let let the offensive prospects play in offensive positions while sheltering them with experience?

Isnt that what everyone has been complaining about for the last 5 years?

Didnt matter if they signed Spezza or Beagle, they were still going to finish in the bottom 3!

Just sit back and enjoy the rebuild! They are going to be adding some elite pieces in the next 2 drafts and hopefully management doesnt mismanage them the way Edmonton did. I think by adding the Beagles and Rousel's that they are already ahead of that.

I just wish they had added some better defensemen over the summer - (frank)!

- chompsey


I don't want some huge debate, and I'm not disagreeing with you, but... what if this idea of sheltering the young players has the exact opposite effect. To me, this puts all the pressure to score on rookies and guys fighting for a spot to be a first year full time player. The bottom of the lineup won't be expected to score, and sure, they will take most of the defensive zone draws, but in 41 road games the other team gets the last change, and Gudbranson ices the puck like nobody else in the league can.

Anyway, here's to hoping the veteran guys have career years, the team stays competitive even if they don't win and Pettersson and Boeser take a step forward.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:17 PM ET
The only potential downside I can see is Demko and his feelings.
- 1970vintage

have demko's feelings recovered from the team drafting dipietro? picking up another goalie could be devastating!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 27 @ 12:20 PM ET
have demko's feelings recovered from the team drafting dipietro? picking up another goalie could be devastating!
- RealityChecker

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
I don't want some huge debate, and I'm not disagreeing with you, but... what if this idea of sheltering the young players has the exact opposite effect. To me, this puts all the pressure to score on rookies and guys fighting for a spot to be a first year full time player. The bottom of the lineup won't be expected to score, and sure, they will take most of the defensive zone draws, but in 41 road games the other team gets the last change, and Gudbranson ices the puck like nobody else in the league can.

Anyway, here's to hoping the veteran guys have career years, the team stays competitive even if they don't win and Pettersson and Boeser take a step forward.

- 1970vintage


I think it needs to be looked at less of a rookie/veteran thing, and more so that Green puts them in situations to succeed (According to player strengths). Henrik and Daniel didn't get priority offensive faceoffs because they were veterans, it was because they are offensive minded forwards with poor defensive strengths. I think Green should play his players to their strength (Boeser/Pettersson as offensive guys) (Sutter/Beagle as defensive guys). Learning to play at all ends of the ice should be mandatory for all players playing in the NHL (Gudbranson is going to ice the puck 10x a night on the road, and you're right, offensive players will need to take defensive draws), but I think it should be more or less giving players opportunities to work their trade.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Sep 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
I don't want some huge debate, and I'm not disagreeing with you, but... what if this idea of sheltering the young players has the exact opposite effect. To me, this puts all the pressure to score on rookies and guys fighting for a spot to be a first year full time player. The bottom of the lineup won't be expected to score, and sure, they will take most of the defensive zone draws, but in 41 road games the other team gets the last change, and Gudbranson ices the puck like nobody else in the league can.

Anyway, here's to hoping the veteran guys have career years, the team stays competitive even if they don't win and Pettersson and Boeser take a step forward.

- 1970vintage



We can "what if" all day long but management felt this was the best way to do it and I dont necessarily disagree with them.

What i do disagree with is the fact that it took them so long to accept to come to this point. Its a much bigger hole to climb out of now.

Also:

Nylander was my pick over Virtanen
Tkachuk over Juolevi


Imagine:

Tkachuk Pettersson Boeser
Baertschi Horvat Nylander
Eriksson Sutter Goldobin
Rousell Beagle Schaller


Defense group wouldnt be any different that it is now but that looks like a more balanced forward group......
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:28 PM ET
absolutely nothing to lose. We have the $, our goaltending sucks, Sparks is a proven AHL goalie, who hasn't been able to get a shot in the NHL. Wouldn't make a ton of sense to not do it.
- Codes1087


This is going to get a bunch of eye rolling type responses over feelings and whatnot, but unless Benning can find an AHL team willing to play Nilsson on loan, I can't see them making a claim. I definitely think they should, but I do think the organization respects Bachman too much to demote/move him from Utica
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:35 PM ET
This is going to get a bunch of eye rolling type responses over feelings and whatnot, but unless Benning can find an AHL team willing to play Nilsson on loan, I can't see them making a claim. I definitely think they should, but I do think the organization respects Bachman too much to demote/move him from Utica
- WhiteLie

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 27 @ 12:43 PM ET
I still don’t see many freakouts in here. Just some disappointment in the lack of fight for spots and some troll posts that people keep taking the bait on(Gaunce, etc).


I feel like it’s really the pro-Benning crowd who’s more on edge and are just looking for freakouts to make fun of.

- Nucker101


No truer words have been posted. Well done.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Sep 27 @ 12:47 PM ET

- RealityChecker




I don't think it would be difficult to find another AHL home for Nilsson; but I question Benning's motivation to do it despite what is obvious to the rest of us here
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 27 @ 12:49 PM ET


I don't think it would be difficult to find another AHL home for Nilsson; but I question Benning's motivation to do it despite what is obvious to the rest of us here

- WhiteLie

He won’t. No chance. The org is way too loyal to scraps. Always have been.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 27 @ 12:54 PM ET
He won’t. No chance. The org is way too loyal to scraps. Always have been.
- CanuckDon


So the question has to be why are they so loyal to scraps?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 27 @ 1:04 PM ET
So the question has to be why are they so loyal to scraps?
- bloatedmosquito

My take is that the team has always been full of scraps since the beginning. Our senior management always hires ex Canuck scraps to run the club. Executive scrubs are attracted to player scraps as they can relate. It’s a vicious scrap cycle that won’t end until we get a new owner that will hire scrapless people that haven’t played for this scrap organization. I hope this makes sense
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