Toronto is probably going to have to expose Sparks, the goalie that beat the Comets in the first round last year.
- 1970vintage

he's pre-season has been piss ass like Nilsson's.

Toronto is probably going to have to expose Sparks, the goalie that beat the Comets in the first round last year.
- 1970vintage

I was thinking that . He can't be worse than Nilsson . Gaunce for Sparks

You or I don't know what has been said behind closed doors. We don't know if someone was saying " Give the Sedins one last kick at the can" or "These players won't let go of their NTC"

Canucks have made a lot of mistakes but I will give them credit for trying different things. After seeing the make up of the team I would suggest selling off all assets like Tanev Edler Baertschi Sutter Gudbrandson MDZ JV .

It is probably a good time to tear down and rebuild. They can't sink any further.
- VANTEL

Yeah, was only commenting on Hawksey saying he only wants quality picks and the Canucks haven’t had them, but in the 4 years Benning has regularly given away second round picks, the “quality” ones, as well as 3rd,4th,5th etc, the non quality ones.

I was thinking that . He can't be worse than Nilsson . Gaunce for Sparks
- VANTEL

You would want to throw Nilsson into the deal, let them pay him to play in the minors.

Radulov and Arvidsson in the conversation with those other players is funny. Even Toffoli, Boeser, Pastrnak and Nylander.

Now put down the list of play driving centers and see how much longer it is than wingers who've proven they're able to drive a line.
- Lindenis#1

Like i said, there will always be a need for top/quality centers. I never discredited that. Im simply saying, you pointed out the RW position as a weak position to build a core around (not sure or exact wording). I named a quick list of some very very good players that i would consider, to their respective teams, part of the their core (or what have you). While centers will always hold more value (i wont disagree with you there), to say the RW isnt as important would be silly. Draft BPA always and draft well throughout all positions.

he's pre-season has been piss ass like Nilsson's.
- Lindenis#1

So after for or five starts if he sucks you can bring Demko up (he will have played 20 games by then).

You would want to throw Nilsson into the deal, let them pay him to play in the minors.
- 1970vintage

I would just waive Nilsson . We have plenty of cap space. He would probably go play in Sweden

its not even game 1 of 2019 in the NHL season. Draft lists have a rough idea of some things but there is a lot that will change between now and then.

outside of Kaako, Hughes and... that might even be it... its impossible to guess who will fill out the top 10.
- Lindenis#1

Saying never enough C’s i agree with.
I realize it’s early but seek who likes who &/or positions.

Got to start thinking D.
- bloatedmosquito

I’m leaning that way also unless 1OA.
Idk if Broberg is good for 2nd but it wouldn’t bother me at all if we picked him.
Byram needs to prove he’s legit top D.

Like i said, there will always be a need for top/quality centers. I never discredited that. Im simply saying, you pointed out the RW position as a weak position to build a core around (not sure or exact wording). I named a quick list of some very very good players that i would consider, to their respective teams, part of the their core (or what have you). While centers will always hold more value (i wont disagree with you there), to say the RW isnt as important would be silly. Draft BPA always and draft well throughout all positions.
- Codes1087

That's fair. But if your choice is a center who can be top 2 and drive play or a top 2W (where Boeser is already, and most of the teams forward prospects play), take the center. Centers can move to wing, it doesn't work the other way around. Good centers can make the middle 6 wingers into better players.

Wingers just don't do that much. If you're a scoring winger and you're not scoring, you're basically doing nothing out there.

If there is a huge talent drop between the W and the next "group" of D/C then take your winger.

That's fair. But if your choice is a center who can be top 2 and drive play or a top 2W (where Boeser is already, and most of the teams forward prospects play), take the center. Centers can move to wing, it doesn't work the other way around. Good centers can make the middle 6 wingers into better players.

Wingers just don't do that much. If you're a scoring winger and you're not scoring, you're basically doing nothing out there.

If there is a huge talent drop between the W and the next "group" of D/C then take your winger.
- Lindenis#1

I take BPA always.

only downside is that he's a RW and honestly... wingers aren't that important when you need building blocks.
- Lindenis#1

My take as well unless a true game changer & they are rare.

My early top 5 BPA...
Hughes
Podkinski
Broberg
Cozens
Byram

So after for or five starts if he sucks you can bring Demko up (he will have played 20 games by then).
- 1970vintage

Demko can't keep up with the play in the NHL. He loses his net on extended zone time. It was the same problem goalie people pointed out last year and through preseason its persisted.

Plus, if Clark really has him working on so many things he can't just play and he still has to think then leave him in the AHL most of the year. Bring him up for an eastern swing the the metro NY area or when they're in Ontario and the northeast.

After the TDL demoke Nilsson or send him back to Sweden and split starts like 11-7 with Markstrom/Demko

Is there still enough cap space left for the Sedins?



I like Vantel's idea of keeping an eye open for a new back up via waiver wire. Not that it's much of a difference maker but I can't imagine keeping Nillsen after last season and this preseason.
- boonerbuck

He is as good as gone

Kucherov, patrick kane, tarasenko, pastrnak, patrick laine. Mitch marner. William nylander, arvidsson, radulov, wheeler, toffoli, boeser.

Mcdavid is the best center in the world and hasnt had a good enough winger to play with him since hes entered the league. My point is, despite an always never ending need for quality/top centers, people are too quick to dismiss the value of wingers and their impact on the game.
- Codes1087

Cuz wingers don’t do the heavy lifting.
Cannot win without C’s & D’s.

That's fair. But if your choice is a center who can be top 2 and drive play or a top 2W (where Boeser is already, and most of the teams forward prospects play), take the center. Centers can move to wing, it doesn't work the other way around. Good centers can make the middle 6 wingers into better players.

Wingers just don't do that much. If you're a scoring winger and you're not scoring, you're basically doing nothing out there.

If there is a huge talent drop between the W and the next "group" of D/C then take your winger.
- Lindenis#1

Exactly well said 👍

Demko can't keep up with the play in the NHL. He loses his net on extended zone time. It was the same problem goalie people pointed out last year and through preseason its persisted.

Plus, if Clark really has him working on so many things he can't just play and he still has to think then leave him in the AHL most of the year. Bring him up for an eastern swing the the metro NY area or when they're in Ontario and the northeast.

After the TDL demoke Nilsson or send him back to Sweden and split starts like 11-7 with Markstrom/Demko
- Lindenis#1

Does it really matter which poopty goalie is the backup this year? Someone pondered a waiver claim, I suggested a guy who will likely be exposed, who could potentially be less poopty than the poopty poop we currently have. Plus it would be pay back for COrrado.

Does it really matter which poopty goalie is the backup this year? Someone pondered a waiver claim, I suggested a guy who will likely be exposed, who could potentially be less poopty than the poopty poop we currently have. Plus it would be pay back for COrrado.
- 1970vintage

only as long as whoever is brought in is done so explicitly for canon fodder reasons. nilsson is cannon fodder right now.

- A_SteamingLombardi

lol!

Not sure where you get your facts or what you consider sucking but...
07/08 - 4th in Northwest did not qualify
08/09 - 4th in Northwest did not qualify
09/10 - 5th in Northwest did not qualify
10/11 - 5th in Northwest did not qualify
11/12 - 5th in Northwest did not qualify
12/13 - 3rd in Northwest did not qualify
13/14 - 7th in Pacific did not qualify
14/15 - 6th in Pacific did not qualify
15/16 - 6th in Pacific did not qualify
16/17 - 2nd in Pacific, won first round lost second round
17/18 - 6th in Pacific did not qualify

That right there is a decade of sucking with one year with playoffs, Canucks on the other hand have not made the playoffs in 3 seasons.

Not making excuses because as you know I am one of the biggest critics, but come on let’s not make poop up to suit your stance
- Makita

Well played!

only as long as whoever is brought in is done so explicitly for canon fodder reasons. nilsson is cannon fodder right now.
- Lindenis#1

You already know he is poopty. At least with Sparks he could be less poopty.

lol!
- LordHumungous

I have no idea who that is, related to Harry Potter?

You already know he is poopty. At least with Sparks he could be less poopty.
- 1970vintage

i don't think Bobrovsky would look good behind this blueline

Got to start thinking D.
- bloatedmosquito

........and goaltending. Can't rush Demko obviously and Nilsson is a joke at the NHL level. Put him on a large ice surface w/Sweden and he's a back to back WHC champ but man does he struggle at the NHl level. I like the idea someone said about shopping for another backup...wow...

I would just waive Nilsson . We have plenty of cap space. He would probably go play in Sweden
- VANTEL