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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:18 PM ET
A new version of everyone's favorite cover

ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Sep 25 @ 4:18 PM ET
again why would they have to lose hagg? thats a short minded approach.
- rinaldo


He's a 23 yr old solid 3rd pair defenseman in the NHL making only 1.15mil, I would bet my life savings on someone claiming him.
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 25 @ 4:19 PM ET
He's a 23 yr old solid 3rd pair defenseman in the NHL making only 1.15mil, I would bet my life savings on someone claiming him.
- ajw12

who said he has to be the one waived? do they not have other options?
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Sep 25 @ 4:22 PM ET
who said he has to be the one waived? do they not have other options?
- rinaldo


They're not gonna waive AMac or Gudas and they're not gonna have one of Myers, Sanheim, or Hagg be the 7th defenseman so what other option is there?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Sep 25 @ 4:26 PM ET
They're not gonna waive AMac or Gudas and they're not gonna have one of Myers, Sanheim, or Hagg be the 7th defenseman so what other option is there?
- ajw12


That. plus the person I was responding to indicated that they'd want Hagg sent down as opposed to Myers, which would require him going through waivers. But let's not actually read here or anything.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Sep 25 @ 4:30 PM ET
That. plus the person I was responding to indicated that they'd want Hagg sent down as opposed to Myers, which would require him going through waivers. But let's not actually read here or anything.
- jmatchett383


He only reads what he wants to read on here
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Sep 25 @ 4:34 PM ET
Just saying, Gritty has already shot one person in the back with a gun. Maybe he's secretly an assassin.
- jmatchett383


Haha. That character is straight up chaos. Love it.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:42 PM ET
Haha. That character is straight up chaos. Love it.
- Hextall271


excellent description
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 25 @ 4:49 PM ET
You guys have spent the past year predicting that a Gudas trade was imminent.
- Feanor

Well, they finally have, arguably, 6 other Dmen as good or better and with only one year left on his deal after this season, he should be easier to move. Of course if went out and played a little better that would help too.

YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Sep 25 @ 4:54 PM ET
He only reads what he is able to read on here
- ajw12

ftfy...small words help
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:54 PM ET
A new version of everyone's favorite cover


- Scoob




Its a nice faithful cover. Done with respect. BUT, it lacks the one thing that made the original a great song, and that is the Porcaro shuffle.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 25 @ 4:57 PM ET
Its a nice faithful cover. Done with respect. BUT, it lacks the one thing that made the original a great song, and that is the Porcaro shuffle.
- MBFlyerfan


Isn't that Rosanna?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Sep 25 @ 5:02 PM ET
Its a nice faithful cover. Done with respect. BUT, it lacks the one thing that made the original a great song, and that is the Porcaro shuffle.
- MBFlyerfan

People always bust on Toto, but those dudes can friggin play. Most people have no conception of just how many hit songs some or all of them have played on.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Sep 25 @ 5:05 PM ET
People always bust on Toto, but those dudes can friggin play. Most people have no conception of just how many hit songs some or all of them have played on.
- BiggE


Hired Gun does a decent job of pointing out that fact
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Sep 25 @ 5:09 PM ET
That. plus the person I was responding to indicated that they'd want Hagg sent down as opposed to Myers, which would require him going through waivers. But let's not actually read here or anything.
- jmatchett383


I just don't think Hagg is going to get much better. Honestly not worried about him being here much longer.

He's a very limited dman. I get the numbers game, though.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Sep 25 @ 5:10 PM ET
People always bust on Toto, but those dudes can friggin play. Most people have no conception of just how many hit songs some or all of them have played on.
- BiggE


Yes they can! Jeff Porccaro was a helleva drummer and innovator. First guy to design the rack concept on Pearl Drum kits. So good I bought them and loved them. Good call Bigg.
VladDrag
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 01.13.2009

Sep 25 @ 5:10 PM ET
The song Africa, in any form, sucks.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Sep 25 @ 5:18 PM ET
Well, they finally have, arguably, 6 other Dmen as good or better and with only one year left on his deal after this season, he should be easier to move. Of course if went out and played a little better that would help too.
- BiggE


Arguably, they should waive MacDonald back to the AHL (unlike Hagg he wouldn't be claimed so no organizational depth would be lost) and replace him with Myers, giving the team two RHD in the top 6 and 3 in the top 7.

Provorov-Ghost
Sanheim-Gudas
Hagg-Myers
Folin

But I don't see that happening, either.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 5:22 PM ET
Exactly -- they do this all the time. Folin was brought in to be the No. 7. He will play a game or two, here or there. If someone is out for longer than that and Myers is strong at LHV, he's gonna get a shot
- AllInForFlyers


Myers despite his obvious raw skills still has significant refinement to make in his game. My personal opinion was that I thought he could do that while playing in the NHL. The Flyers feel differently. It's not really a big deal because I don't think he is going to be down there long. Like you said, injuries do happen and he'll have a long future as a Flyer.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Sep 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
Neither Lyon nor Neuvirth will be ready at the start of the season, so unless you acquire someone, the other goalie along with Elliott will be Stolarz or Hart. Stolarz has barely played in over a year and could really benefit, even more than Hart, from getting steady work in the AHL. Hart will be fine. The kid has a good head on his shoulders and getting a few NHL games under his belt in October, whether he plays well or poorly, won't do any lasting damage to him. So far he's been, by far, their best goalie in preseason.

I'd like to see them start Elliott again against the Rags Thursday and see if he's any sharper. I'd then give Hart the start against Boston in the final pre-season which will likely feature, for the most part, each teams opening night lineup. This will be his toughest test and if he performs well, there is no reason not to open the season with Elliott/Hart as the goalie tandem.

- BiggE


I don't disagree with your logic. I think either Stolarz OR Hart would be "fine". But assuming that unless Elliott is horrendous, he will be the workhorse until Neuvy or Lyon is ready, do you want the future of the franchise to sit on the nech and learn in morning skates, or learn by starting almost every game in LV?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 5:23 PM ET
There is no reason for Myers to be sent down. None. He's played damn well in his time, and played a lot of minutes.

This is the love and sick fascination they have with POS players.

- flyer_nutter


Absolute Nutter. There's no reason for this, no reason for that. Hextall and the Flyers just don't know what they're doing! He's played in the pre-season, not in regular season NHL action.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Sep 25 @ 5:28 PM ET
Arguably, they should waive MacDonald back to the AHL (unlike Hagg he wouldn't be claimed so no organizational depth would be lost) and replace him with Myers, giving the team two RHD in the top 6 and 3 in the top 7.

Provorov-Ghost
Sanheim-Gudas
Hagg-Myers
Folin

But I don't see that happening, either.

- Feanor


Right now, MacDonald is the team's 3rd best defenseman. They're not going to waive him.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Sep 25 @ 5:33 PM ET
My biggest complaint has nothing to do with benchings or even, for the most part, with his lineups. I'm more concerned that he tends to get locked into this system and doesn't adjust well on the fly if things aren't working.
- BiggE


What is happening here? I agree with all of this too. He seems to not have a feel for chemistry or which players have skill sets that complement each other. And he promotes mediocre veterans because they have the experience to "make do" and downgrades players who are struggling because they were matched with players who amplify their weaknesses and inexperience instead of recognizing that they are talented, but need the right situations to develop.
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Sep 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
Arguably, they should waive MacDonald back to the AHL (unlike Hagg he wouldn't be claimed so no organizational depth would be lost) and replace him with Myers, giving the team two RHD in the top 6 and 3 in the top 7.

Provorov-Ghost
Sanheim-Gudas
Hagg-Myers
Folin

But I don't see that happening, either.

- Feanor


I hope it doesn't happen, because we have already seen these pairings don't work. Sanheim-Gudas was a dumpster fire last season, and Hagg-Myers were the Moe and Curly in Boston.

Provorov-Myers
Sanheim-MacDonald
Ghost-Hagg

Unfortunately, Myers has been sent down for one understandable mistake, so
Provorov-Hagg/Gudas
Ghost-Gudas/Hagg
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Sep 25 @ 5:37 PM ET
They're not gonna waive AMac or Gudas and they're not gonna have one of Myers, Sanheim, or Hagg be the 7th defenseman so what other option is there?
- ajw12

Sorry to she bothered you Ronald. They have options and to say they don’t is incorrect
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