Sending down Myers is just moronic.

Can’t even. (frank) em.

I am assuming that Hagg cannot go down without being put on waivers. No way he wouldn't get claimed, even with his flaws. He's still young enough to improve and they want to get him in real games for more evaluation -- I have no doubt they are watching him closely

It was a very good read and, for the most part, I understand and agree with what Hakstol has been trying to do. He's spent the last 3 seasons working on installing his system and getting his team to play the game the way he wants it to be played. My biggest complaint has nothing to do with benchings or even, for the most part, with his lineups. I'm more concerned that he tends to get locked into this system and doesn't adjust well on the fly if things aren't working. However, in his defense, this is a failing of many NHL coaches. My only other complaint is that he has a tendency to ride a hot goalie until the guy just falls apart. You can get away with that if you have a stud, workhorse number 1 guy, but when your goalies are Elliott, Neuvirth and whatever kid steps in for Neuvirth while injured, you just can't do that. He needs to improve in this facet of his game. Obviously the other issue is the PK. We all lob most of the blame on Lappy, but Hak is the head coach and, at the end of the day, it falls on him. Obviously, personnel has a lot to do with the success/failure of the PK. When you only have average goalies and only 1 Dman who can really match up well against a top pp unit, you are going to have problems. However, being a little more aggressive in how they pressure the opponent when coming through the neutral zone and in their D zone puck pursuit, would also help quite a bit.

This will be an interesting year. He finally has pretty good talent at all positions, save possibly the most important position (goal), and the expectations will be greater. Just squeaking into the playoffs is not going to be enough, I think the front office will be disappointed with another first round exit. I also think the decision to go forward with Hakstol will be made following this season as well. He'll either be signed to an extension or let go. I don't think they want to go into 19-20 with a lame duck coach. I don't think you can say he has to win a round or he's gone as injuries and whatnot make that pretty difficult to say. However, I think Hextall will want to see him give more responsibility to younger players who have been here for a while and also he'll be closely watching how he eases rookies into the lineup of what should be a playoff team.

He seems like a good guy, and I hope he can get us into the playoffs, win a round or better yet 2 this season and be the guy who leads us to a Cup in another year or two, but time will tell. The jury is still out.
- BiggE

His usage of the coaches challenge hasn’t been great so far.

Not enough snot and balls.

The Myers demotion is laughable.

I am assuming that Hagg cannot go down without being put on waivers. No way he wouldn't get claimed, even with his flaws. He's still young enough to improve and they want to get him in real games for more evaluation -- I have no doubt they are watching him closely
- AllInForFlyers

Correct. Only guys with the green arrow are waiver exempt.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers

Correct. Only guys with the green arrow are waiver exempt.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/flyers
- Feanor

Thanks. Then that's what they're doing. Hagg isn't safe forever, folks. Myers is gonna come back at some point, and then it's gonna be game on

Sending down Myers is just moronic.

Can’t even. (frank) em.
- flyer_nutter

he had a horrible clearing attempt that lead to a goal
we should let him get more experience and not turn into AMac 2.0

Thanks. Then that's what they're doing. Hagg isn't safe forever, folks. Myers is gonna come back at some point, and then it's gonna be game on
- AllInForFlyers

There is no reason for Myers to be sent down. None. He's played damn well in his time, and played a lot of minutes.

This is the love and sick fascination they have with POS players.

Myers should be in the lineup over Hagg. I'm disappointed
- bulet13

They weren't going to waive Hagg and lose him for nothing. And your not going to sit him as a 7th defensman when you signed Folin for that role.


Someone will either get hurt or moved and then Myers will be recalled.

Thanks. Then that's what they're doing. Hagg isn't safe forever, folks. Myers is gonna come back at some point, and then it's gonna be game on
- AllInForFlyers

Well what are we supposed to do with all these torches and pitchforks now?

There is no reason for Myers to be sent down. None. He's played damn well in his time, and played a lot of minutes.

This is the love and sick fascination they have with POS players.
- flyer_nutter

No, there's actually very good reasons -- you cannot lose a young asset like Hagg on waivers, for nothing. That would be GM malpractice

He didn't beat out Gudas. They like AMac to the degree they do and clearly don't wanna run either a Sanheim-Myers, Hagg-Myers or Hagg-Gudas pairing -- and I wouldn't necessarily be in a hurry to do that, either

It's 82 games, man. If Myers does what he is capable of doing down there, he's coming back for somebody's slot. Give it time to shake out

They weren't going to waive Hagg and lose him for nothing. And your not going to sit him as a 7th defensman when you signed Folin for that role.


Someone will either get hurt or moved and then Myers will be recalled.
- J35Bacher

Thats a lame excuse.

They did this last season with Morin as well. There is some imaginary veteran quota that has to be filled. If the kid showed he wasn't ready by all means send him down, but this is volunatrily choosing to not ice your best lineup.

Thats a lame excuse.

They did this last season with Morin as well. There is some imaginary veteran quota that has to be filled. If the kid showed he wasn't ready by all means send him down, but this is volunatrily choosing to not ice your best lineup.
- flyer_nutter

?????

They have 4 defenders that are 25 or under. Then have MacDonald and Gudas. Folin as number 7.

Where is the veteran quota? They look pretty young there now.

No, there's actually very good reasons -- you cannot lose a young asset like Hagg on waivers, for nothing. That would be GM malpractice

He didn't beat out Gudas. They like AMac to the degree they do and clearly don't wanna run either a Sanheim-Myers, Hagg-Myers or Hagg-Gudas pairing -- and I wouldn't necessarily be in a hurry to do that, either

It's 82 games, man. If Myers does what he is capable of doing down there, he's coming back for somebody's slot. Give it time to shake out
- AllInForFlyers

The kid outplayed Hagg by a country mile. Its a piss poor decision in my eyes.

Hagg could have been your #7.

?????

They have 4 defenders that are 25 or under. Then have MacDonald and Gudas. Folin as number 7.

Where is the veteran quota? They look pretty young there now.
- J35Bacher

Based on talent, who do you believe is the best out of these 4 d-men?

Myers, Hagg, Gudas and Mac? Who got sent down. It's just funny that it was basically Hagg who beat him out of a spot. Robert Hagg. Mr Toughness. Jesus Christ Almighty.

I need to be held.

Based on talent, who do you believe is the best out of these 4 d-men?

Myers, Hagg, Gudas and Mac? Who got sent down. It's just funny that it was basically Hagg who beat him out of a spot. Robert Hagg. Mr Toughness. Jesus Christ Almighty.

I need to be held.
- flyer_nutter

The Flyers were not going to waive Hagg to fit Myers and lose him for nothing. If Hagg is your 7 who is going where then? It's not just this player made it so this one is gone. Contracts and waiver exemption come into play.

Well what are we supposed to do with all these torches and pitchforks now?
- Scoob

I'm taking mine and going after all the Gritty haters

Thats a lame excuse.

They did this last season with Morin as well. There is some imaginary veteran quota that has to be filled. If the kid showed he wasn't ready by all means send him down, but this is volunatrily choosing to not ice your best lineup.
- flyer_nutter

Morin wasn’t ready, isn’t ready, and won’t be ready for the NHL.

The Flyers were not going to waive Hagg to fit Myers and lose him for nothing. If Hagg is your 7 who is going where then? It's not just this player made it so this one is gone. Contracts and waiver exemption come into play.
- J35Bacher

WHo the hell says they need to waive Hagg. He could have been your #7 if you are so set on having the vets in Mac and Gudas in there.

I would like to know what Hagg has done to be awarded this kind of security. Myers is by far the better player.

The kid outplayed Hagg by a country mile. Its a piss poor decision in my eyes.

Hagg could have been your #7.
- flyer_nutter

It does you no good to sit Hagg for an extended period. He needs to play. Right now, he might be playing for his long-term future with the team if he doesn't solidify his play and standing, because he has to know that Myers is there, Morin is gonna rehab and be hungry, and if the Flyers are really close, they have the assets to go get a guy

Holding on to crappy players for dear life.

WHo the hell says they need to waive Hagg. He could have been your #7 if you are so set on having the vets in Mac and Gudas in there.

I would like to know what Hagg has done to be awarded this kind of security. Myers is by far the better player.
- flyer_nutter

Why is it Myers vs Hagg?

I don't know if you can say he "outplayed" him. Both guys are expected to do different things.

Listen I love Myers game. I thought he played well. But i can't say he was out of this world and gave them no choice. Things will shake out. Maybe there are more moves to make. We don't know if Hextall is working the phones to move a defensman.

Holding on to crappy players for dear life.
- flyer_nutter

Hagg was a rookie last year, man -- he doesn't have an infinite amount of rope, but you can't just discard assets like that without seeing them in a few more games than he has played

Gudas beat him out. AMac...look. He isn't a great player. We all know that. But he does enough to where he adds value to a pretty young defense corps

Hagg was a rookie last year, man -- he doesn't have an infinite amount of rope, but you can't just discard assets like that without seeing them in a few more games than he has played

Gudas beat him out. AMac...look. He isn't a great player. We all know that. But he does enough to where he adds value to a pretty young defense corps
- AllInForFlyers

Is what it is.

I would like to know why they think icing a clearly less talented lineup is the better decision.

WHo the hell says they need to waive Hagg. He could have been your #7 if you are so set on having the vets in Mac and Gudas in there.

I would like to know what Hagg has done to be awarded this kind of security. Myers is by far the better player.
- flyer_nutter

So who would you waive?