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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 4:32 PM ET
He and Motte will not only make the team, but will be playing opening night
- Nucker101

Gagner practicing on the 2nd PP today
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
Per Ben Kuzma, here are today's cuts:

Chatfield/Dahlen/Palmu/Brisebois

All waiver exempt. That gets us down to 29 healthy players - or maybe 30. Apparently Eriksson is practicing.

So, four or five forwards left to cut. The D is down to nine - last year's guys + Juolevi.

- Carol Schram

Who would the 5 left forwards to be cut?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
Gagner practicing on the 2nd PP today
- manvanfan


Give him 2nd unit PP time and play him on a line at 5v5 with guys who aren't small/weak. He seems to suck the most at 5v5 when paired with smaller/weaker players.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
Who would the 5 left forwards to be cut?
- manvanfan


Depends on the IR situation with Eriksson/Roussel.

Roussel still not even being on the ice makes me think he had a pretty severe concussion which sucks. Even when he's back to staking, he'll need time to get back into shape.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 23 @ 4:41 PM ET
Who would the 5 left forwards to be cut?
- manvanfan


I'm going to list 'em alphabetically in an attempt to avoid bias.

The 18 forwards remaining - not counting Roussel:

Archibald
Baertschi
Beagle
Boeser
Boucher
Eriksson
Gagner
Gaudette
Gaunce
Goldobin
Granlund
Horvat
Leipsic
Motte
Pettersson
Schaller
Sutter
Virtanen

Out of that group, I believe only Gaudette and Motte are waiver exempt.

(And...as Reubenkincade points out...Boeser & Pettersson are also waiver exempt!)
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 23 @ 4:44 PM ET
I'm going to list 'em alphabetically in an attempt to avoid bias.

The 18 forwards remaining - not counting Roussel:

Archibald
Baertschi
Beagle
Boeser
Boucher
Eriksson
Gagner
Gaudette
Gaunce
Goldobin
Granlund
Horvat
Leipsic
Motte
Pettersson
Schaller
Sutter
Virtanen

Out of that group, I believe only Gaudette and Motte are waiver exempt.

- Carol Schram


Its not what i want, or what i would do, but i believe gaudette and motte will go to utica due to being waiver exempt, leaving 3 forwards. I also imagine boucher/gaunce/archibald get put on waivers.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 4:44 PM ET
Give him 2nd unit PP time and play him on a line at 5v5 with guys who aren't small/weak. He seems to suck the most at 5v5 when paired with smaller/weaker players.
- Nucker101

There lies a problem with the Vancouver Canucks and TG system. Last year he used Sutter to shutdown the opposition. This year he plans on using Sutter and Beagle. Normally those would be the 3-4 line centers on most teams and getting easier match ups. Gagner being defensive liability needs limited easy minutes. The many soft top 6 forwards van still has. Unless the lines are going to be in a blender from minutes one of every game specialized to Gagner. This team doesn't have a spot for Gagner to succeed.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 23 @ 4:46 PM ET
There lies a problem with the Vancouver Canucks and TG system. Last year he used Sutter to shutdown the opposition. This year he plans on using Sutter and Beagle. Normally those would be the 3-4 line centers on most teams and getting easier match ups. Gagner being defensive liability needs limited easy minutes. The many soft top 6 forwards van still has. Unless the lines are going to be in a blender from minutes one of every game specialized to Gagner. This team doesn't have a spot for Gagner to succeed.
- manvanfan


You're probably right. I'm pretty curious about the whole Sutter/Beagle thing as well
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:47 PM ET
I'm going to list 'em alphabetically in an attempt to avoid bias.

The 18 forwards remaining - not counting Roussel:

Archibald
Baertschi
Beagle
Boeser
Boucher
Eriksson
Gagner
Gaudette
Gaunce
Goldobin
Granlund
Horvat
Leipsic
Motte
Pettersson
Schaller
Sutter
Virtanen

Out of that group, I believe only Gaudette and Motte are waiver exempt.

- Carol Schram


Not sure Carol, but, I think Boeser and Peterson are also exempt.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 23 @ 4:49 PM ET
Its not what i want, or what i would do, but i believe gaudette and motte will go to utica due to being waiver exempt, leaving 3 forwards. I also imagine boucher/gaunce/archibald get put on waivers.
- Codes1087


That looks about right to me. That's probably the most low-risk option.

I think something pretty dramatic would have to happen this week to cause another outcome.
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Sep 23 @ 4:50 PM ET
Not sure Carol, but, I think Boeser and Peterson are also exempt.

- Reubenkincade



Fair point!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 23 @ 4:54 PM ET
This Tour Champion is some awesome TV golf Carol, are you watching?

Pettersson, Boeser and Horvat will keep things entertaining for those of us who love to see the kids grow their game but it's GLARINGLY apparent this team is still years away from being competitive.

- LeftCoaster


2020 is the earliest. At least 2 seasons of patience & developing is ahead for us.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 4:56 PM ET
You're probably right. I'm pretty curious about the whole Sutter/Beagle thing as well
- Nucker101

Baertschi Horvat boeser
Virtanen Pettersson Goldobin
Eriksson Sutter Roussel
Schaller Beagle Granlund
Gagner Leipsic
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm going to list 'em alphabetically in an attempt to avoid bias.

The 18 forwards remaining - not counting Roussel:

Archibald
Baertschi
Beagle
Boeser
Boucher
Eriksson
Gagner
Gaudette
Gaunce
Goldobin
Granlund

Horvat
Leipsic
Motte

Pettersson
Schaller
Sutter
Virtanen

Out of that group, I believe only Gaudette and Motte are waiver exempt.

(And...as Reubenkincade points out...Boeser & Pettersson are also waiver exempt!)

- Carol Schram


I believe the 8 bolded players are fighting for 4 remaining spots.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Sep 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
Baertschi Horvat boeser
Virtanen Pettersson Goldobin
Eriksson Sutter Roussel
Schaller Beagle Granlund
Gagner Leipsic

- manvanfan


They will be keeping 8 defensemen and only 13 forwards.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 23 @ 5:03 PM ET
Archie
Boucher
Gaunce

The 4th to Utica is a TG decision. He also might like Gaunce & find another drop. JB & he will work it out.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 5:05 PM ET
They will be keeping 8 defensemen and only 13 forwards.
- Reubenkincade

Just another problem with Jim Benning.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 5:07 PM ET
Just another problem with Jim Benning.
- manvanfan

Pardon?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 23 @ 5:09 PM ET
Boucher put on waivers to be sent to utica
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Sep 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
2020 is the earliest. At least 2 seasons of patience & developing is ahead for us.
- Nighthawk

2 more years of trolls
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 23 @ 5:14 PM ET
Pardon?
- CanuckDon

And TG
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 5:15 PM ET
Trading all those guys would also help the tank.
- A_SteamingLombardi



Yes it would .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Sep 23 @ 5:17 PM ET
2 more years of trolls
- Bettmanhatesus


Lol

Well we didn’t get here overnight & nobody probably didn’t see it coming. Many teams seem ahead of us that are no different in reality. Each new season brings opportunity
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
And TG
- manvanfan

Your messages don’t make sense today
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 23 @ 5:20 PM ET
Boucher put on waivers to be sent to utica
- Codes1087

no surprise
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