That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it
- Symba007

I'd comment, but I don't want to trigger LumLums.

The franking moon.

And the Leafs will give it to him.

Nylander is simply not the same guy as him.

Put another way:

If the Leafs lose Matthews (offer sheet, hold-out that results in forcing a trade) it will set this franchise back another 10 years (something we are all too familiar with). It will be a black mark that we will never live down. Other fans will gleefully talk about the Matthews curse.

If the same thing happens for Nylander, we will debate whether or not we got enough coming back.

See the difference?
- Atomic Wedgie

My point is he knows Matthews is going to get the moon so he is trying to capitalize on it. Whether you like it or not, he's a damn good player and you can't replace him, he knows it too.

The franking moon.

And the Leafs will give it to him.

Nylander is simply not the same guy as him.

Put another way:

If the Leafs lose Matthews (offer sheet, hold-out that results in forcing a trade) it will set this franchise back another 10 years (something we are all too familiar with). It will be a black mark that we will never live down. Other fans will gleefully talk about the Matthews curse.

If the same thing happens for Nylander, we will debate whether or not we got enough coming back.

See the difference?
- Atomic Wedgie

Great point. if you get four 1st rounders from a Matthews offer sheet you'd have to think that team would be making the playoffs every year. Tough to believe the sum of 4 non lottery picks would equal to an elite #1 center.

Easier to find a replacement in Nylander in the first round. Not guaranteed but more likely to get a 1st line winger somewhere later in the round.

I'd comment, but I don't want to trigger LumLums.
- Atomic Wedgie

I hope we hear really soon that nylander Signed $6.6 - $6.9 range x 7 years. We need him on our team

My point is he knows Matthews is going to get the moon so he is trying to capitalize on it. Whether you like it or not, he's a damn good player and you can't replace him, he knows it too.
- ClaudeFather

We have too much talent at forward (relative to the salary cap) and not enough talent at defence. Not nearly enough talent at defence.

He's an RFA. If he sits out the season, he doesn't get any closer to UFA status.

The Leafs hold all the cards. All of them.

He's a damn good player, but he most certainly is replaceable.

Great point. if you get four 1st rounders from a Matthews offer sheet you'd have to think that team would be making the playoffs every year. Tough to believe the sum of 4 non lottery picks would equal to an elite #1 center.

Easier to find a replacement in Nylander in the first round. Not guaranteed but more likely to get a 1st line winger somewhere later in the round.
- lonnyBohonos

His replacement was already selected in the 1st round of the 2008 NHL entry draft

maybe not the best idea..
If you trade Nylander for Panarin and put him on a line with Tavares and Marner, then Matthews is stuck playing with Hyman and Ennis?
- PatC80

Matthews with Panarin would be INSANE.

Great point. if you get four 1st rounders from a Matthews offer sheet you'd have to think that team would be making the playoffs every year. Tough to believe the sum of 4 non lottery picks would equal to an elite #1 center.

Easier to find a replacement in Nylander in the first round. Not guaranteed but more likely to get a 1st line winger somewhere later in the round.
- lonnyBohonos

Thankfully, we are strong at RW;
Marner
Kapanen
Brown
Bracco
Ennis

His replacement was already selected in the 1st round of the 2008 NHL entry draft
- TheMussel

Filatov is coming back?

Thankfully, we are strong at RW;
Marner
Kapanen
Brown
Bracco
Ennis
- PatC80

To be perfectly honest, I was on board the "trade Nylander for a defenceman" train before the hold-out.

Yes, he's a good player. That's the point. We can flip him for a good defenceman.

His replacement was already selected in the 1st round of the 2008 NHL entry draft
- TheMussel

Mattias Tedenby?

To be perfectly honest, I was on board the "trade Nylander for a defenceman" train before the hold-out.

Yes, he's a good player. That's the point. We can flip him for a good defenceman.
- Atomic Wedgie

Okay. Name a defenceman that’s worth giving up Nylander for, and is actually available.

To be perfectly honest, I was on board the "trade Nylander for a defenceman" train before the hold-out.

Yes, he's a good player. That's the point. We can flip him for a good defenceman.
- Atomic Wedgie

I still don't want to see him traded. Just hurry up and sign already.

Okay. Name a defenceman that’s worth giving up Nylander for, and is actually available.
- Steven_Seagull

I don't want to trade Nylander, but;

Trouba
Parayko (some have suggested)
Dougie Hamilton ( Carolina is kinda dumb)

Okay. Name a defenceman that’s worth giving up Nylander for, and is actually available.
- Steven_Seagull

It's my job to come up with brilliant ideas.

Then my minions implement them.

We are all going to start to move on from Nylander when this team dominates without him. He can bring back a good young top 4 D.
- RogerRoeper

Nah.

He'll sign a bridge deal, then a long deal, and I'll be over the moon he's a Leaf for 12.5 years

It's my job to come up with brilliant ideas.

Then my minions implement them.
- Atomic Wedgie

Fair point

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it
- Symba007

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it
- Symba007

How many points do they get for a 'leaked video'?

maybe not the best idea..
If you trade Nylander for Panarin and put him on a line with Tavares and Marner, then Matthews is stuck playing with Hyman and Ennis?
- PatC80

Right now Matthews is playing with Marleau and not Nylander. Connor could fill that spot and Hyman drops down from second line to play with Kadri and, I don't know, K? Looks like a top three line combo that most teams would drool over.

Right now Matthews is playing with Marleau and not Nylander. Connor could fill that spot and Hyman drops down from second line to play with Kadri and, I don't know, K? Looks like a top three line combo that most teams would drool over.
- hawkeytown

Plenty of room here in Leafs Nation, Hawksie.

Want to climb on the bus?

(I apologize for the mixed metaphor).

This is REALLY a stupid move by Nylander. I have no idea what he is thinking. He gets to play 1st line with Matthews on a contender.
As time goes on the idea of a trade to upgrade the D will start to become more realistic.
- RogerRoeper

Yep. Kings have D men to trade to upgrade their wing.

I don't really blame Nylander for the holdout. I blame his agent and his father, who is supposedly taking part in the talks (yeah, having your dad help negotiate your salary, that seems like a brilliant idea) despite not being a player agent himself as far as I know...

Overly interested hockey parents are always so helpful when it comes to player negotiations. After they get this deal signed, maybe Mikey can discuss Willy's ice time with Babcock too.

Willy is likely just at fault for placing his trust fully on his agent and father that are dragging this poop out. If his agent, and especially his father, are telling him to trust them and that this is all just part of the process, of course he's going to let them do their thing. He's probably as nervous about getting the contract signed as us fans. Hopefully it gets done before season starts.


Sounds like Babs is trying to acknowledge the good showing by Liljegren and Sandin, but they are most likely going back to the AHL or junior or whatever. Not too surprising. I was pleased with both in their preseason game. Hope they both have a great year and get even better.

Okay. Name a defenceman that’s worth giving up Nylander for, and is actually available.
- Steven_Seagull

I would talk to Edmonton about Nurse (other pieces involved).