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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 21 @ 4:07 PM ET
Giving him $8 million a year would make him one of the top 25 paid players in the NHL.

So I need you to take a moment, Mr. Flyers Fan, before you answer the following question:

Do you really think that Nylander deserves to be one of the top 25 paid players in the NHL?

Warning: Leafs fans everywhere will be making note of your answer, and possibly throwing it in your face before every Leafs-Flyers game this year.

- Atomic Wedgie

Also, in two years he'd probably be outside of the top 35, and every year after there would be more contracts surpassing
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Sep 21 @ 4:08 PM ET
JVR and Evander Kane both got $7M, Pasta is better than both of them easily.
- ClaudeFather

UFA and RFA

That comment right there ruined any credibility from you. That’s bush league
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 21 @ 4:08 PM ET
This may come as big shock to you, but Nylander should not be compared to McDavid.

Ever.

- Atomic Wedgie

Didn't compare them, said Mcdavid set the market.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Sep 21 @ 4:08 PM ET
Looks like he might could turn it around. Those seasons didn't come from nowhere. Time will tell, as in if he gets the icetime. If he gets buried on the 4th line all season could be another ~20 point season
- TheMussel


All very true. He needs to be in the top-9. And he is NOT a center
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
Didn't compare them, said Mcdavid set the market.
- ClaudeFather

McDavid set the market for once in a generation players.

Do you really think that McDavid's salary has a positive effect on Rich Clune's next salary negotiations?
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:10 PM ET
He wants a good deal for the team

Sure he can get an average contract and sign today...but then he has to do the same for Matthews and Marner.

He’s playing hardball will Nylander so he can get The others on cheaper contracts.

- Santo_44


Sure, it makes sense for the Leafs to do so.

Just as it makes sense for Nylander to want as much as possible.

Thus, the current situation.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 21 @ 4:11 PM ET
McDavid set the market for once in a generation players.

Do you really think that McDavid's salary has a positive effect on Rich Clune's next salary negotiations?

- Atomic Wedgie

What do you think Matthews is going to ask for?
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 21 @ 4:11 PM ET
McDavid set the market for once in a generation players.

Do you really think that McDavid's salary has a positive effect on Rich Clune's next salary negotiations?

- Atomic Wedgie


Yes.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 21 @ 4:11 PM ET
UFA and RFA

That comment right there ruined any credibility from you. That’s bush league

- Santo_44

Na, we talking millions boii
justmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Sep 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
Like Salming wanting to talk to him.

Think the agent and his dad are really the ones keeping him out demanding this big overpayment.

At some point you have to wonder if Dubas doesnt start contemplating a trade, especially if he starts feeling this could be a pattern with him. Short term then back to this again?!

- Roadrunner75


Didn't his father have a history of this kind of thing?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
Matthews is the next Mats Sundin
- TheMussel

Never win anything
LeafGuy89
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 05.13.2017

Sep 21 @ 4:12 PM ET
It's clear Nylander wants money, there were talks if he goes all season without signing a deal which is just hilarious to me. He would not get paid which is clearly what he wants, and it'll only hurt his future contract. I like Nylander but man he is definitely losing some respect.
lonnyBohonos
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 02.02.2017

Sep 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
JVR and Evander Kane both got $7M, Pasta is better than both of them easily.
- ClaudeFather


thats more of a UFA thing.

I think most ideal would be Willie signing the same deal as his buddy Ehlers 7 years x 6MM.

Ehlers had a 38 and 64 point season under his belt but he signed his extension at the start of last season and is just kicking in now. He'd probably get a boost with two 60 point seasons now though.

Thats best case scenario for the team
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Sep 21 @ 4:13 PM ET
What do you think Matthews is going to ask for?
- ClaudeFather


what a dumb comment.. We all know Matthews is going to ask for a trade to Arizona..
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:14 PM ET
Didn't compare them, said Mcdavid set the market.
- ClaudeFather


McDavid should be getting 15 million per
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:15 PM ET
Never win anything
- Symba007


Except Olympic gold.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
What do you think Matthews is going to ask for?
- ClaudeFather

The franking moon.

And the Leafs will give it to him.

Nylander is simply not the same guy as him.

Put another way:

If the Leafs lose Matthews (offer sheet, hold-out that results in forcing a trade) it will set this franchise back another 10 years (something we are all too familiar with). It will be a black mark that we will never live down. Other fans will gleefully talk about the Matthews curse.

If the same thing happens for Nylander, we will debate whether or not we got enough coming back.

See the difference?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:16 PM ET
Except Olympic gold.
- RogerRoeper

The one trophy most Europeans truly care about
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
We are all going to start to move on from Nylander when this team dominates without him. He can bring back a good young top 4 D.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
The franking moon.

And the Leafs will give it to him.

Nylander is simply not the same guy as him.

Put another way:

If the Leafs lose Matthews (offer sheet, hold-out that results in forcing a trade) it will set this franchise back another 10 years (something we are all too familiar with). It will be a black mark that we will never live down. Other fans will gleefully talk about the Matthews curse.

If the same thing happens for Nylander, we will debate whether or not we got enough coming back.

See the difference?

- Atomic Wedgie

That's a lot of questions but I'll answer as best as I can. First of all, Kudos to you for even knowing that there IS a difference!!

Miss USA is mostly about looks. There are three phases of competition all weighted equally - evening gown, swimsuit and interview.

Miss America is more about the total package. There are five phases of competition - Talent at 35%, Interview at 25%, Evening Gown at 20%, Swimsuit at 15% and On Stage Question at 5%.

There are three things that really make the Miss America system different...there is a talent portion, the interview is much more intense and, most importantly, it provides millions of dollars in scholarships not only to the winners, but runner ups, preliminary winners, etc. every year.

Neither system is necessarily "better" than the other. They are just different. There are girls that are successful only in one system, but there are many that crossover and are successful in both.

Hope this explains it

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Sep 21 @ 4:17 PM ET
The one trophy most Europeans truly care about
- Symba007


Can't wait for Kotkaniemi to lead the Finns to gold all throughout his career
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: AUSTON MATTHEWS IS A LEAF
Joined: 03.03.2016

Sep 21 @ 4:18 PM ET
Larkin is the same age and a C and had 63 points last season and just signed for 6.1 per.,
- RogerRoeper



He did (frank) all the year before...
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
Can't wait for Kotkaniemi to lead the Finns to gold all throughout his career
- TheMussel

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Sep 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
The one trophy most Europeans truly care about
- Symba007

I don't know about you, but growing up, when my buddies and I would play road hockey after dinner, we would all dream that we were in the finals of the Spengler Cup.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 21 @ 4:19 PM ET
I don't know about you, but growing up, when my buddies and I would play road hockey after dinner, we would all dream that we were in the finals of the Spengler Cup.
- Atomic Wedgie

what a time it was that and playing at the all star game
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