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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 4:24 PM ET
Virtanen played 4th line minutes and is defensively responsible.... apples and oranges.
- Pres.cup

Also a good point. Goblin is being gifted a tremendous opportunity to start on the 2nd line if he can gel w Pettersson. To not even show up for a game? Pathetic
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 21 @ 4:24 PM ET
I doubt Buffalo trades him to us
- 93Nucks


Lol..... he'd make a great winger though, maybe play Hughes in that spot.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Sep 21 @ 4:26 PM ET
Also a good point. Goblin is being gifted a tremendous opportunity to start on the 2nd line if he can gel w Pettersson. To not even show up for a game? Pathetic
- CanuckDon


Exactly, he got called out because green gave him all the rope in the world to tighten his shiz up , but he hung himself instead.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 21 @ 4:31 PM ET
I’m fine with Green calling him out but man this is fun to watch. There’s clearly a handful of polarizing players on this team who become the hot topic of the day after every bad/good game. One game they’re a lock for opening night according to a group of fans and the next night the player should be waived according to a different group of people.


Meanwhile, there’s a few other players who have good/bad games and no one cares
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 4:39 PM ET
I’m fine with Green calling him out but man this is fun to watch. There’s clearly a handful of polarizing players on this team who become the hot topic of the day after every bad/good game. One game they’re a lock for opening night according to a group of fans and the next night the player should be waived according to a different group of people.


Meanwhile, there’s a few other players who have good/bad games and no one cares

- Nucker101

I suppose that’s what you get when half the roster doesn’t belong in the NHL
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
I suppose that’s what you get when half the roster doesn’t belong in the NHL
- CanuckDon


Fair point.


I definitely don’t remember arguments over depth guys when the team was good. In fact, the majority of the fans usually hated the scrubs. The hate was united.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 21 @ 4:42 PM ET
I think that you just compared goldobin with Ovechkin..... I'm just going to leave that out there and aren't going to comment further.

- Pres.cup


I compared their defensive capability, and it was an easier comparison as they are both from Russia, but there isn't a comparison other than that. Russians hate playing defense, lets face it.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 21 @ 4:53 PM ET
I compared their defensive capability, and it was an easier comparison as they are both from Russia, but there isn't a comparison other than that. Russians hate playing defense, lets face it.
- Codes1087



https://www.quanthockey.c...players-career-stats.html
Guys like Ovie, Kucherov, Kuznetsov, Panarin and Kovalchuck, sure

But there’s top tier offensive wingers from every country who don’t really care about defense. Kuznetsov is the only center in that group above.

Obviously you have guys like Datsyuk and Fedorov who were beasts

Anisimov is considered a 2-way C
Radulov is actually considered to be very good defensively for a winger
Kulemin was always considered to be a 2-way forward
Burmistrov is a 2-way player, same with Barbeshev

Artem Chubarov for the Canucks was a pure defensive forward

I don’t think I’ve seen Malkin or Tarasenko ever called poor defensively but they’re not getting selke votes either
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 21 @ 4:57 PM ET
https://www.quanthockey.c...players-career-stats.html
Guys like Ovie, Kucherov, Kuznetsov, Panarin and Kovalchuck, sure

But there’s top tier offensive wingers from every country who don’t really care about defense. Kuznetsov is the only center in that group above.

Obviously you have guys like Datsyuk and Fedorov who were beasts

Anisimov is considered a 2-way C
Radulov is actually considered to be very good defensively for a winger
Kulemin was always considered to be a 2-way forward
Burmistrov is a 2-way player, same with Barbeshev

Artem Chubarov for the Canucks was a pure defensive forward

I don’t think I’ve seen Malkin or Tarasenko ever called poor defensively but they’re not getting selke votes either

- Nucker101


who was the last Russian player to ever win the selke? I don't remember. Either way, Goldy needs to be more consistent, and I don't think that Travis Green is asking to much out of him by saying that.


edit - it was Sergei Federov, twice for DET
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Sep 21 @ 5:00 PM ET
who was the last Russian player to ever win the selke? I don't remember. Either way, Goldy needs to be more consistent, and I don't think that Travis Green is asking to much out of him by saying that.

- Codes1087

I believe Datsyuk, he won it in:

2007/2008
2008/2009
2009/2010


Aren’t there usually only like 15-20 or so Russian regular forwards in the NHL since the last lockout? Kind of hard to compete with all of the North Americans lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Sep 21 @ 5:04 PM ET
who was the last Russian player to ever win the selke? I don't remember. Either way, Goldy needs to be more consistent, and I don't think that Travis Green is asking to much out of him by saying that.


edit - it was Sergei Federov, twice for DET

- Codes1087

You have changed since your ban. I don’t like you anymore codes. You used to care about players feelings. Goldobin must be devastated
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 21 @ 5:05 PM ET
Take a break from the hate.



- A_SteamingLombardi

Ya I caught that a few months back very well done.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
You have changed since your ban. I don’t like you anymore codes. You used to care about players feelings. Goldobin must be devastated
- CanuckDon


being banned changed me. Being banned makes you tougher. Being banned makes you a man. Goldobin needs to get banned.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Sep 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
being banned changed me. Being banned makes you tougher. Being banned makes you a man. Goldobin needs to get banned.
- Codes1087

You need to sucker punch Ekblad.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 21 @ 5:18 PM ET
You need to sucker punch Ekblad.
- LordHumungous


dude. I don't want to get banned again tho....
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
Good thing the refs improve during the season too. These calls are brutal.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
Granlund played fairly well and Virtanen and Schaller are Lock’s. Goblin Leipsic are the bubble players that are fighting for the last spot. The fact green is calling him out means he cares about the kid.
- CanuckDon


#Feelings
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 21 @ 5:26 PM ET
#Feelings
- bloatedmosquito

I'm enjoying watching Archie play. He's good when Van plays against the larger teams
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Sep 21 @ 5:26 PM ET
dude. I don't want to get banned again tho....
- Codes1087


I am late to the party, what did you get banned for? Seems out of character.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
Good thing the refs improve during the season too. These calls are brutal.
- manvanfan


Oh man, calling out the refs so early?

Let's all agree this season to not blame the refs or some grand conspiracy for canuck loses.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
I'm enjoying watching Archie play. He's good when Van plays against the larger teams
- manvanfan


With the emphases on speed this year I wonder if some players will become anchors as the season progresses.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Sep 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
I think most of us want to see that. Just one game.

But let's get serious. This roster is pretty much set already. as much as they say they want to give the kids a shot.


Leipsic-Horvat-Boeser
Baertschi-Pettersson-Goldobin
Granlund-Sutter-Virtanen
Schaller-Beagle-Gagner

Gaunce or Motte

Hutton-Tanev
Stecher-Edler
Del Zotto-Gudbranson

Pouliot-Biega

Markstrom

Nilsson

Injuries

Roussell, Eriksson


Once those two come back from injury, they have to make a decision on trading a vet or two, or decide between Leipsic, Goldy, Motte, Gaunce

- bigpetar


I am not sure how a fan base can complain about the same D (not you) and not make at least one change . We have 2 kids ready for the next step Sautner or OJ
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Sep 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
I am late to the party, what did you get banned for? Seems out of character.
- DuranDuran


The Flames gonna be any good this season?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Sep 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
I am late to the party, what did you get banned for? Seems out of character.
- DuranDuran


I got banned in the MTL blog for POLITELY calling out their blogger for blaming Ekblad as a victim for getting sucker punched. It didn't sit well I guess.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Sep 21 @ 5:34 PM ET
Oh man, calling out the refs so early?

Let's all agree this season to not blame the refs or some grand conspiracy for canuck loses.

- bloatedmosquito

They won the game.
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