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spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:11 AM ET
Jesus
- Brandon


Is he forward or defence?
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 11 @ 9:13 AM ET


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david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 11 @ 9:22 AM ET
(frank)ing hell the TGOR this morning was so bizarre.
- AdamFrench


I didn't get a chance to listen today. What'd I miss?
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Sep 11 @ 9:25 AM ET
Overall not bad but not needed at all.
Would have been better to just keep quiet.
Anything he says is not going to be accepted on social media. I do believe he ernestly was trying to mend things and give a sense of direction. But cmon stfu.

spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:27 AM ET
I went back and listened to the Melnyk/Boro video again.

Melnyk parsed his language in a curios manner. He said the he was going to stay around Ottawa for a long time. In a following sentence, he said the franchise was staying in Ottawa. First time I have heard him separate his personal interest from the franchise.
david22
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 04.15.2008

Sep 11 @ 9:30 AM ET
I went back and listened to the Melnyk/Boro video again.

Melnyk parsed his language in a curios manner. He said the he was going to stay around Ottawa for a long time. In a following sentence, he said the franchise was staying in Ottawa. First time I have heard him separate his personal interest from the franchise.

- spatso


Sorry, but I've heard this too many times from too many people. Too many stories of people knowing a guy who say's X, or Y. T

A deal is imminent... or in the works.

I'll believe when it's confirmed 100%, and not a second before.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 11 @ 9:30 AM ET
Just an outsider’s thoughts.

The quickest way to get change is to stop supporting them financially. Stop going to the games or buying merchandise.

Being loyal at this time is foolish imo. Melnyk needs to go, and it seems it will have to be the league to eventually intervene.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Sep 11 @ 9:34 AM ET
I didn't get a chance to listen today. What'd I miss?
- david22

The general confusion that the video spawned. Like how it implies Karlsson/Stone/Duchene gone. Why Boro was doing the interview? All the weird nonsense.
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Sep 11 @ 9:37 AM ET
Just an outsider’s thoughts.

The quickest way to get change is to stop supporting them financially. Stop going to the games or buying merchandise.

Being loyal at this time is foolish imo. Melnyk needs to go, and it seems it will have to be the league to eventually intervene.

- flyer_nutter

i will always be loyal to the emblem. Thats the way it goes when your a real fan.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:40 AM ET
Just an outsider’s thoughts.

The quickest way to get change is to stop supporting them financially. Stop going to the games or buying merchandise.

Being loyal at this time is foolish imo. Melnyk needs to go, and it seems it will have to be the league to eventually intervene.

- flyer_nutter


This is already happening. Huge drops in attendance. Fans and business are very vocal about some of the really dumb choices Melnyk forced on the team.

I think the turning point was letting Methot walk away in the expansion draft. At that point everybody knew it was about money in Melnyk's pocket and it has gone dramatically from that point. Melnyk refusing to negotiate with Turris merely confirmed his deconstruction of a pretty solid team.
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Sep 11 @ 9:42 AM ET
I went back and listened to the Melnyk/Boro video again.

Melnyk parsed his language in a curios manner. He said the he was going to stay around Ottawa for a long time. In a following sentence, he said the franchise was staying in Ottawa. First time I have heard him separate his personal interest from the franchise.

- spatso

To give hope to your theory. It wouldnt be the first time a corporation has bold faced lied to its consumers. ( melynk is not going anywhere).. it could be more posturing to keep the upperhand in negotiations. Wich wouldnt surprise me
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:44 AM ET
The general confusion that the video spawned. Like how it implies Karlsson/Stone/Duchene gone. Why Boro was doing the interview? All the weird nonsense.
- AdamFrench


What your seeing is what it is. It has been like this for awhile.

The best hope is a complete rebuild, a new arena and new franchise structure.


flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Sep 11 @ 9:45 AM ET
i will always be loyal to the emblem. Thats the way it goes when your a real fan.
- spazzbot


I don’t mean for folks to not be fans, but the financial support in particular.

spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Sep 11 @ 9:46 AM ET
This is already happening. Huge drops in attendance. Fans and business are very vocal about some of the really dumb choices Melnyk forced on the team.

I think the turning point was letting Methot walk away in the expansion draft. At that point everybody knew it was about money in Melnyk's pocket and it has gone dramatically from that point. Melnyk refusing to negotiate with Turris merely confirmed his deconstruction of a pretty solid team.

- spatso

It was either Methot or Ceci. Better choice imo
Duchene better then Turris.imo
Now in terms of chemistry all that did add up to last year. I blame the gm coach and vets for letting it get out of control
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:49 AM ET
To give hope to your theory. It wouldnt be the first time a corporation has bold faced lied to its consumers. ( melynk is not going anywhere).. it could be more posturing to keep the upperhand in negotiations. Wich wouldnt surprise me
- spazzbot


Yes, you are right. Melnyk does not care about fans. He is trying to preserve his position to get the best deal possible.

The one critical consideration is the financing. Over $7b necessary to develop LeBretton and adjacent lands. No way a Melnyk led project gets the money. So, he either goes away or stays on in a minor role.
spatso
Ottawa Senators
Location: jensen beach, FL
Joined: 02.19.2007

Sep 11 @ 9:55 AM ET
It was either Methot or Ceci. Better choice imo
Duchene better then Turris.imo
Now in terms of chemistry all that did add up to last year. I blame the gm coach and vets for letting it get out of control

- spazzbot


It could have been a second round pick. But first Melnyk tried to squeeze out Phaneuf. When that did not work he saved the $4m per season on Methot. It was always about the money. Turris wanted to stay and would have stayed for $6m. Melnyk would not approve the deal. So, Turris and a 1st round pick went for Duchene. Now it is clear that Duchene will not likely be returning next year. The Sens were not that far off the cap ceiling. Now they are crashing towards the floor.
spazzbot
Location: Maple Zombie
Joined: 02.14.2013

Sep 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
It could have been a second round pick. But first Melnyk tried to squeeze out Phaneuf. When that did not work he saved the $4m per season on Methot. It was always about the money. Turris wanted to stay and would have stayed for $6m. Melnyk would not approve the deal. So, Turris and a 1st round pick went for Duchene. Now it is clear that Duchene will not likely be returning next year. The Sens were not that far off the cap ceiling. Now they are crashing towards the floor.
- spatso

Im not going to pick apart Methot and Turris they were good guys here. The handing out of picks and prospects was a bad joke. Dorion has been a epic failure so far. Just how much influence on gm choices Melynk has is a mystery. To be fair though it does appear he likes to play with his toys.
forbetterorWORSE
Ottawa Senators
Location: Riverview, NB
Joined: 06.12.2009

Sep 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
I am convinced Melnyk is just Joaquin Phoenix playing a character for a mockumentary to be made about owning a pro sports team.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 11 @ 10:05 AM ET
not sure who the source was but this what viral last night and its perfect

DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Sep 11 @ 10:06 AM ET
The general confusion that the video spawned. Like how it implies Karlsson/Stone/Duchene gone. Why Boro was doing the interview? All the weird nonsense.
- AdamFrench


they are going to make Cody Ceci captain..arent they
Brandon
Ottawa Senators
Location: ON
Joined: 09.29.2005

Sep 11 @ 10:08 AM ET
Is he forward or defence?
- spatso


Definitely a forward, I'd say C. He can't help though
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Sep 11 @ 10:13 AM ET
I think he, melnyk, has brain damage...
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 11 @ 10:15 AM ET
I despise Melnyk. My credentials in that regard are gold plated and have been for a long time.

However, i am fine with this rebuild promo. Far better to go "all in" rather than play at the margins.

So, 10 players (this year) with less than 10 NHL games played and adding another 6 rookies next year.

These numbers have been given to Melnyk (by Dorion and others). I assume that 3 and perhaps as many as 5 of those rookie players (out of the 16) are part of the return for Karlsson, Stone and Duchene.

Guy Boucher was a great junior coach. I guess he is going to have to remember how to coach kids again.

- spatso


WTF does that even mean? You have credentials for despising Melnyk?
Jeffmt
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 10.11.2006

Sep 11 @ 10:16 AM ET
15 or 16 players on entry level contracts? Does Melnyk even know about the cap floor?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 11 @ 10:19 AM ET
I went back and listened to the Melnyk/Boro video again.

Melnyk parsed his language in a curios manner. He said the he was going to stay around Ottawa for a long time. In a following sentence, he said the franchise was staying in Ottawa. First time I have heard him separate his personal interest from the franchise.

- spatso


You are a mess.
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