This trade scenario would work much better if Pacioretty was actually a centre.
- golfingsince

Who says he is not one?

-Marc Bergevin

Jero is an idiot, but he's our idiot so tread lightly.

Who says he is not one?

-Marc Bergevin
- Symba007

Amazing they've tried everyone else and their aunt there but not him.

Jero is an idiot, but he's our idiot so tread lightly.
- golfingsince

Jero is long gone. He wasn’t an idiot, but he did toss the salad of Thai lady boys.

But he was one of the best posters on this site.

Dude. You defend people by referencing Hitler. Then you defend domestic abusers ala Voynov. Don’t talk about speaking to idiots.
- RafiDRW

So what? Is the past not relevant? Do we not use examples of the past to be better people? The usage was only there to point out people dont just wake up and say "Hey, doing this evil deed sounds fun, let's do it".

Secondly I am not defending Voynov. What he did is unacceptable. All I said is that there is no reason he should be banned from the NHL. He paid for his crime and being a horrible human being is not any reason to say you cant play hockey. There are plenty of horrible human beings playing in the league who havent broken the law. Hell Marchand is still in the league. We are also talking about the same league that slapped D.Keith on the wrist for a two handed slash to the head. He should never even played in the playoffs that year IMO

So Fighting doesnt win hockey games, yet all but 5 made the playoffs and 1 won the cup, you attribute fighting to Simmonds and show a list that shows Flyers are nowhere to be seen on the list of teams that fight.... Makes sense.....

Simmonds does not fight often. It happens from time to time. Physical presence does not only mean fighting. It means he is physical in front of the net, opponents do not move him easily, he battles hard along boards and wins those puck battles and throws the bodies which pressures players to play the puck to avoid being hit. These things DO help win hockey games. Simmonds had an unlucky season last year with injuries. If you bother looking at the list of injuries you can easily see some of them are freak accidents. Prior to last season Simmonds had Four 25+ goal seasons(29, 28, 32, 31) with 50-60 points( 60, 50, 60 , 54). Even last season playing hurt, he got 24 goals and 46 points

Patches has been the best goal scorer of all 3. Prior to last season, his last 4 goal totals are: 39, 37, 30, 35. Points 60, 67, 64, 67.

Panarin in his 3 seasons has 30, 31 and 27 goals with 77, 74, 82 points. Correct me if I am wrong but that isnt 4x better. That is more like 0.25x better. It was already stated that there would be a + in any swap given the upgrade Panarin would be.

Trade value comes down to more than just players skill. It comes down to the value GMs place on a player, that is determined by the news that comes from the teams. Right now Panarin and Pacioretty do not sound happy with their situation and want out. That lowers their value because GMs can see how it is going to go if they dont trade him. Talk out of Philly with Simmonds is much nicer than the other 2.

Philly is not in a situation where they have to trade Simmonds. Re-signing is still an option and even if he walks, we will keep him for a playoff run like a rental.

Columbus is in a similar position where they can keep him as a rental but GMs know that he's gonna walk. So the offers are going to be low balled.

Montreal is a whole other story. They need to trade him as they wont be in a playoff position and if he walks for nothing that is a huge blow to the team. GMs also know that re-signing is out of the question.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

THIS

what the Ek is going on with these daily rumors???

So what? Is the past not relevant? Do we not use examples of the past to be better people? The usage was only there to point out people dont just wake up and say "Hey, doing this evil deed sounds fun, let's do it".

Secondly I am not defending Voynov. What he did is unacceptable. All I said is that there is no reason he should be banned from the NHL. He paid for his crime and being a horrible human being is not any reason to say you cant play hockey. There are plenty of horrible human beings playing in the league who havent broken the law. Hell Marchand is still in the league. We are also talking about the same league that slapped D.Keith on the wrist for a two handed slash to the head. He should never even played in the playoffs that year IMO
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Voynov paid for his crimes? What do you say about Todd Bertuzzi? Because it’s the same scenario, if not worse. Bertuzzi should’ve been banned from the league for his hit.

Voynov beat his wife yet again and he should be banned from the league. You think Hoffman’s girlfriend is cool because Hitler. (frank) you and your reasoning.

Voynov paid for his crimes? What do you say about Todd Bertuzzi? Because it’s the same scenario, if not worse. Bertuzzi should’ve been banned from the league for his hit.

Voynov beat his wife yet again and he should be banned from the league. You think Hoffman’s girlfriend is cool because Hitler. (frank) you and your reasoning.
- RafiDRW

Not sure why you bother with this dippoop.

Voynov paid for his crimes? What do you say about Todd Bertuzzi? Because it’s the same scenario, if not worse. Bertuzzi should’ve been banned from the league for his hit.

Voynov beat his wife yet again and he should be banned from the league. You think Hoffman’s girlfriend is cool because Hitler. (frank) you and your reasoning.
- RafiDRW

Second that!

1. Habs should have an eye on Séguin.
2. Blue Jackets should just get what they can for Panarin - it's just too late. Or play him, try & win the Cup & let him walk for free as it appears he doesn't want to stay.
3. Flyers, see point 2 only replace Panarin for Symonds, & win the Cup for make the playoffs, & let him walk for he wants too much money to resign.
4. Stay tuned
5. More to come
6. The deal is done
7. There's another team involved now
8. Karlsson signed last Friday - the day when no one reads or listens to the news, he has really signed with Tampa but nobody knows (not even Ek - e5).
9. Carolina is on the move again - back to Carolina
10. Don't (frank) with the Habs - no one (frank)s with the Habs!
11. Code RED!!!

Voynov paid for his crimes? What do you say about Todd Bertuzzi? Because it’s the same scenario, if not worse. Bertuzzi should’ve been banned from the league for his hit.

Voynov beat his wife yet again and he should be banned from the league. You think Hoffman’s girlfriend is cool because Hitler. (frank) you and your reasoning.
- RafiDRW

You forgot that billionth of a trace of steroid was probably found in the needle he shot into his bum with all the other steroid substance that was In the needle.

Wish the Blues could land Panarin somehow but I can't see how

No.

Voynov paid for his crimes? What do you say about Todd Bertuzzi? Because it’s the same scenario, if not worse. Bertuzzi should’ve been banned from the league for his hit.

Voynov beat his wife yet again and he should be banned from the league. You think Hoffman’s girlfriend is cool because Hitler. (frank) you and your reasoning.
- RafiDRW

Dude Shut up. Stop making poop up and making this personal. I never once condoned anything Hoffmans girlfriend did or said she was "cool" I literally could not care less about her. My only argument in that case was that 1) Innocent until proven guilty. 2) I was interested in what reason would drive her so far as to do that if guilty, hence why I said you dont just wake up and decide to do this kind of poop.

Where are you pulling this info about beating his wife again? If she is getting beat again she is part of the problem. According to you it happens multiple times yet she keeps coming back. At some point she has wake up an leave if this is the case. It would be like me constantly complaining about being robbed in a bad neighbourhood but I constantly walk through the neighbourhood alone flaunting my cash.

Lastly Bertuzzi is a different scenario because what he did was on the ice and is related to his job. That is a case where a guy should be banned from the league because he could do the exact same thing to someone else.

You do not agree with me, I do not care but franking let it go. Stop holding onto it like a wife holds a grudge. Get a damn life and stop worrying about what I think.

Dude Shut up. Stop making poop up and making this personal. I never once condoned anything Hoffmans girlfriend did or said she was "cool" I literally could not care less about her. My only argument in that case was that 1) Innocent until proven guilty. 2) I was interested in what reason would drive her so far as to do that if guilty, hence why I said you dont just wake up and decide to do this kind of poop.

Where are you pulling this info about beating his wife again? If she is getting beat again she is part of the problem. According to you it happens multiple times yet she keeps coming back. At some point she has wake up an leave if this is the case. It would be like me constantly complaining about being robbed in a bad neighbourhood but I constantly walk through the neighbourhood alone flaunting my cash.

Lastly Bertuzzi is a different scenario because what he did was on the ice and is related to his job. That is a case where a guy should be banned from the league because he could do the exact same thing to someone else.

You do not agree with me, I do not care but franking let it go. Stop holding onto it like a wife holds a grudge. Get a damn life and stop worrying about what I think.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You might be one of those posters like Hallfan or Alfieisking or UG who just made one too many stupid comments and is forever remembered as a fool with some notable classics. Accept it. you earned it. It’s who you are now.

Pax is a winger, not a center... Why would he play center lol

Pax is a winger, not a center... Why would he play center lol
- co1616

You’re only the 17th Habs fan to point that out. What would we do without you?