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Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Aug 20 @ 2:12 PM ET
Too much context is how you get into retardlytics and it just creates more questions. This is simple.

Boeser is a 1st line player
Horvat is a 1st line player but at the bottom
Baertschi 2nd line.
Sutter and Eriksson, we all know they are used as defensive guys still put up points as good 3rd liners. Sutter has pretty much the same scoring rate over the past 3 seasons even though his ozone starts have gone from 52.1 to 43.8 to 22.6.
Beagle, Roussel, Schaller are 4th lines.
Virtanen, Gaunce, Granlund need to be better otherwise they are also 4th liners.

- manvanfan


I agree with nucker here. No one here has used any sort of analytics to bash sutter. People are using point/goal totals and production. We are using line mates and deployment to defend him, which is the opposite. No one is discussing his corsi or any fancy stat. Also, adding context is almost the opposite of getting into analytics. Analytics are almost like a one way street without context or variance (take it from someone who doesn't mind analytics compared to the rest of the board)
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Aug 20 @ 2:13 PM ET
In the new blog...

Some surprising Canuck content in NHL Network's fan-voted list of the league's Top 20 wingers that was released this morning, plus Da Beauty League playoffs role tonight and a closer look at free-agent signing Tim Schaller, or Dr. Schaller to you and me:

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...-playoffs-begin/194/94400
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 20 @ 2:20 PM ET
If you look at Sutter's role and line mates he would be similar to Beagle. Going to say that Sutter is not better then Beagle?
- manvanfan


How did you come up with that?


Over the last 3 years Sutter's averaged like 10 more points per 82 games, even during seasons with similar usage to Beagle.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Aug 20 @ 2:21 PM ET
Agreed, it’s staggering how much we overrate our prospects. Most will be busts!
- CanuckDon


Yeah, every fanbase in pretty much all major sports is guilty of it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
Why do you hate sutter? Because Willie deployed him on the PP?
- CanuckDon



I don't care that he hates Sutter he is a Flyer fan anyways
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
Lol. Sutter at least has trade value. Now Loui is a guy everyone should really hate
- CanuckDon



It is hilarious hearing Lefty saying Sutter is overpaid while he chats on HB all day
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