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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Aug 18 @ 1:51 PM ET
Kessel was traded to Pittsburgh from Toronto.
- Glak18


Right, all the impact players that I can think of that came to cup winners within the same season were trades.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Aug 18 @ 1:56 PM ET
Folin (Flyers) 2018-19
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 18 @ 2:04 PM ET
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Aug 18 @ 2:16 PM ET
Saw this in another thread and made me think about the impact of signing big name UFAs.

Question for anyone:

When was the last time a big name UFA signing pushed a team over the edge to win a Stanley Cup?

The names I could think of that truly made a major impact:

Scott Stevens (1991) New Jersey
Ed Belfour (1997) Dallas
Scott Niedermayer (2005) Anaheim
Zdeno Chara (2006) Boston

Mostly key positions, goaltending and defense.

Any other suggestions?

- Glak18


Hossa (2010) Chicago
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 18 @ 2:30 PM ET
Hossa (2010) Chicago
- jmatchett383


Hossa is accepted!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 18 @ 2:34 PM ET
Right, all the impact players that I can think of that came to cup winners within the same season were trades.
- NC Flyers Fan


Yeah drafting and trades tend to be the foundation of a championship team, there are thousands of examples of these. Just trying to really think if big UFAs really make that big of a difference. Yes, they all improve a team, but I am trying to figure out how important free agent signing is to a team.

My best assumption for building a championship team would be (in order):

1) Drafting
2) Trades
3) Free Agent Signings
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 18 @ 2:35 PM ET
Folin (Flyers) 2018-19
- flyer_nutter


Manning (Chicago) 2018-19
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 18 @ 2:43 PM ET
Manning (Chicago) 2018-19
- Glak18


Flippula NYI 2018-2019
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 18 @ 2:46 PM ET
2Real (San Jose) 2016
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Aug 18 @ 3:14 PM ET
Pronger (2010) Phi

jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Aug 18 @ 5:00 PM ET
Hossa is accepted!
- Glak18

How about Hossa, 2009 Detroit. Helped the Pens win that year when he jumped ship to join the defending champs.

As an aside, the Dude played in three finals in a row with 3 different teams. Starting his string of 3 cups in 6 years with the Hawks. 6 finals in a row 8 years with 3 cups.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 18 @ 6:05 PM ET
How about Brett Hull in 98 for Dallas.

EDIT: And in Detroit in 2001.

- Glak18


Marian Hossa

Edit: late to the party
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 18 @ 7:58 PM ET
Manning (Chicago) 2018-19
- Glak18


Vandevelde (Lukko Rauma - SM Liga) 2018-19
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:28 PM ET
What a great story. The Flyers organization is without a doubt all class.
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Aug 18 @ 11:30 PM ET
Marian Hossa

Edit: late to the party

- MJL

Yeah Hossa is a good call. A really solid winger and for a few seasons teetered along being one of the best wingers in the game. He lost in the SCF with Pittsburgh (I think) before winning with Chicago.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 12.15.2011

Aug 19 @ 5:48 AM ET
That whole health thing with Hossa is so fishy
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