Exclude the rookie season and see where that is...Took our guy a little longer to come along but we got the better player.
- ClaudeFather

Why exclude a season of stats?

- Steven_Seagull

If you exclude all the games in which Matthews didn't score last year, he would've scored in every game he played. That's impressive.

Why exclude a season of stats?
- walshyleafsfan

Idk let me think, relevancy. Lets look at the past 5 years, oh you don't want to because your guy comes up short? Tavares is a heartless baby. Toronto isn't winning anything.

Tavares and Giroux are both star players but are not in that elite status with Matthews, Malkin, Crosby, McD etc..

If you exclude all the games in which Matthews didn't score last year, he would've scored in every game he played. That's impressive.
- walshyleafsfan

Exclude all the years the Leafs didn’t win the Cup since 1967, and they become defending Cup champs! Suck on that Leaf-haters!

Idk let me think, relevancy. Lets look at the past 5 years, oh you don't want to because your guy comes up short? Tavares is a heartless baby. Toronto isn't winning anything.
- ClaudeFather

What the (frank)? Who's my guy? We already confirmed the Leafs ain't winning anything. You don't win with guys like Tavares and Kessel.

You're going round in circles man.

The only free agent mentioned that should be of interest is Vermette as a 4C because he does bring some skill still.

Tavares, unfortunately, just isn't Hart trophy material. I love the guy, but he's a step down from the elite players. Of the players shown I REALLY like the odds on McKinnon. But, yeah, it us cool to see excitement back in Toronto.
- cranktheradio

There's a troll if I've ever seen it. JT not an elite player?

Tavares and Giroux are both star players but are not in that elite status with Matthews, Malkin, Crosby, McD etc..
- ajw12

Pump the break on Matthews huh, no doubt the kid will very likely be elite but lets see him do it for a few years.

Exclude the rookie season and see where that is...Took our guy a little longer to come along but we got the better player.
- ClaudeFather

Just did a quick look at the Flyers thread and guess what? No Leafs fans there. Because we don’t give a (frank) about them.

So what’s your obsession with the Leafs? Asking for a friend.

Rational conversations with other fans are fine. We're not fortunate enough to get those type of fans visiting these threads though. Instead, we're lumped with strap-ons like ClaudeFather
- walshyleafsfan

So the best way to handle a poster who is uninformed and looking to troll is to do what?

Pump the break on Matthews huh, no doubt the kid will very likely be elite but lets see him do it for a few years.
- ClaudeFather

I think it's pretty safe to put him up there with his performances in his first two seasons

Exclude all the years the Leafs didn’t win the Cup since 1967, and they become defending Cup champs! Suck on that Leaf-haters!
- Steven_Seagull

Idk let me think, relevancy. Lets look at the past 5 years, oh you don't want to because your guy comes up short? Tavares is a heartless baby. Toronto isn't winning anything.
- ClaudeFather

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There's a troll if I've ever seen it. JT not an elite player?
- Snowman X

He’s 9th amongst active players (at least 500 points) in points-per-game, but he’s not elite.


(Giroux is 10th)


He’s 6th amongst active players (at least 200 goals) in goals-per-game. But still not elite.

Idk let me think, relevancy. Lets look at the past 5 years, oh you don't want to because your guy comes up short? Tavares is a heartless baby. Toronto isn't winning anything.
- ClaudeFather

Your Leaf Envy is showing

https://youtu.be/rNnkDjMVJqE?t=18

Just did a quick look at the Flyers thread and guess what? No Leafs fans there. Because we don’t give a (frank) about them.

So what’s your obsession with the Leafs? Asking for a friend.
- shack67

If John Tavares were on the Miami Heat teams with lebron and wade he would be the equivalent to Chris Bosh. Nice player, not superstar.

Just did a quick look at the Flyers thread and guess what? No Leafs fans there. Because we don’t give a (frank) about them.

So what’s your obsession with the Leafs? Asking for a friend.
- shack67

Probably the same for most fans of other teams. They complain about the coverage that the Leafs get yet they just can't stop talking about them.

Leafa truly are the most relevant team in the NHL. Whether you love them or hate them, hockey fans are all Leafs, all the time.

He’s 9th amongst active players (at least 500 points) in points-per-game, but he’s not elite.


(Giroux is 10th)


He’s 6th amongst active players (at least 200 goals) in goals-per-game. But still not elite.
- Steven_Seagull

Lets keep it relevant, past 5 years? Noone wants to answer because JT doesn't stack up.

At least you don't have a joegrief in here trolling every once in a while.
- ajw12

oh yes we do and he has different name but the same type of person.

Lets keep it relevant, past 5 years? Noone wants to answer because JT doesn't stack up.
- ClaudeFather

Lololol

Lets keep it relevant, past 5 years? Noone wants to answer because JT doesn't stack up.
- ClaudeFather

Self-inflicted golf temper tantrum wounds:

Tavares: 0
Giroux: 1

Checkmate.

So the best way to handle a poster who is uninformed and looking to troll is to do what?
- MJL

Write about him in the Flyers thread?

Tavares is dope. Fun player to watch. Leafs will be a thrill to watch with all the impressive offensive creativity and options they have up front. The back end though could use some work.

Tavares is dope. Fun player to watch. Leafs will be a thrill to watch with all the impressive offensive creativity and options they have up front. The back end though could use some work.
- Pixote Andolini

so nice tits but a fat ass

If John Tavares were on the Miami Heat teams with lebron and wade he would be the equivalent to Chris Bosh. Nice player, not superstar.
- ClaudeFather

Tavares has always been considered a superstar. It’s not a Leafs thing. Did you spend time over the years on the Islanders thread voicing your negative thoughts on him? I think not.