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- Steven_Seagull

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- BlueBallz

Poor Makita. His work is never done.

thanks gullsie
- Arctic_AARDVARK

No problem.

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- BlueBallz

Harsh but fair.

Agreed. But this isn't the issue in this particular instance.

Posting things that are demonstrably false and then standing by those fallacies in the face of factual evidence to the contrary is not enjoying hockey talk. It's purposely trying to negatively effect other people's enjoyment of the site.

Legitimate hockey debate is what the people posting the relevant stats to the conversation juxtaposing JT and CG were doing. Continually posting uninformed opinions to try and irk people then boasting about "taking them down in the Leafs thread" is trolling plain and simple.

Nobody needs a "safe space" here. But nobody needs an intentionally disruptive Richard wrangler either. You wouldn't accept it in the Flyers thread and you shouldn't have to.
- BlueBallz

Here's what I think about it. He was clearly either clueless or just looking to troll. Why get all sidetracked on it? The Leafs just signed Taveras and that is creating huge excitement for the upcoming season. Why waste time debating someone like that?

can we just (frank)in' play some hockey already?

fuuuuukin' (frank) lets go boys! b'ys

Poor Makita. His work is never done.
- Thecakeisalie

he's such a tool..

(frank)ing banned me for weeks for nothing. (frank) that guy.

I hope Rielly becomes Captain just so he has to change his avatar.

Here's what I think about it. He was clearly either clueless or just looking to troll. Why get all sidetracked on it? The Leafs just signed Taveras and that is creating huge excitement for the upcoming season. Why waste time debating someone like that?
- MJL

right?

they come in here every night and do this.. they debate this guy until they are in an angry stupor, then whine about it..

Sure everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'm entitled to call out that opinion as utter bullpoop.

Just because people are entitled to have an opinion, doesn't mean there should be no consequences for making your opinion public if it is stupid, deliberately adversarial, or based on no facts at all.

And yeah, how you relay that opinion definitely has a big impact on how it's received. In cases like this one, you're target audience also is important.
- Thecakeisalie

Are you talking about Trump or Trudeau???

The only free agent mentioned that should be of interest is Vermette as a 4C because he does bring some skill still.

Tavares, unfortunately, just isn't Hart trophy material. I love the guy, but he's a step down from the elite players. Of the players shown I REALLY like the odds on McKinnon. But, yeah, it us cool to see excitement back in Toronto.
- cranktheradio

Vermette is done. He brings nothing.

Vermette is done. He brings nothing.
- Feeling Glucky?

He brings faceoffs! Oh...yeah he brings nothing.

Are you talking about Trump or Trudeau???
- sloppyseconds2

I was actually talking about that clueless Flyers fan that can't get over JT signing with Toronto, but it's something that can be applied everywhere for sure.

I always see that statement, that everyone is entitled to their opinion and it bugs me sometimes because people use it often to suggest you can't judge others for their opinion. They can have whatever opinion they want, but that doesn't mean others can't judge their opinion, or them for having such an opinion.

I think I'm gonna avoid the politics comment altogether today. It's been such a nice day, I don't want to ruin it.

Yeah. That’s not going to happen.

Yeah. That’s not going to happen.
- Grinder47

McDavid and Crosby are the top 2 on the list for most likely to win the Hart next year, which is exactly how it should be.

While you can argue a few others should also be ahead of Tavares or Matthews, I don't think its that crazy to have them listed somewhere near the top, after the first two.

They are both good players and could have a career year and be deserving of such an honour, the same as you could say about most of the other players on that list, such as Kucherov, OV, Mackinnon, Eichel, Laine, Backstrom, Tarasenko, Giroux, Kane, Kopitar, etc, all of which were also on that list as players with a chance to win such an award. Maybe some of those guys should have better odds than JT or Matthews, but it's not like it's ridiculous to have their names on such a list.

McDavid and Crosby are the top 2 on the list for most likely to win the Hart next year, which is exactly how it should be.

While you can argue a few others should also be ahead of Tavares or Matthews, I don't think its that crazy to have them listed somewhere near the top, after the first two.

They are both good players and could have a career year and be deserving of such an honour, the same as you could say about most of the other players on that list, such as Kucherov, OV, Mackinnon, Eichel, Laine, Backstrom, Tarasenko, Giroux, Kane, Kopitar, etc, all of which were also on that list as players with a chance to win such an award. Maybe some of those guys should have better odds than JT or Matthews, but it's not like it's ridiculous to have their names on such a list.
- Thecakeisalie

The odds are probably higher for Matthews and Tavares because one of them will always get to face a teams second pair on defense, or split first and second pair. The others listed will always face teams first pair, making it harder to generate points. Others might be better, but that is probably a factor.

Here's what I think about it. He was clearly either clueless or just looking to troll. Why get all sidetracked on it? The Leafs just signed Taveras and that is creating huge excitement for the upcoming season. Why waste time debating someone like that?
- MJL

Agreed on all points.

Question regarding the Flyers. When do we realistically get to see Hart come up to the big team and in what capacity?

I'd guess that unless they need an injury call up that he'll spend his first pro year in the AHL but having two pending FA's in net muddies the water somewhat when you have a highly touted prospect in the system. And if they wait until next year do they bring him up to be back up for a season (unless he's clearly the best in camp) and if so do they retain one of the current two tenders?

Yeah. That’s not going to happen.
- Grinder47

Well that settles it then

Vermette is done. He brings nothing.
- Feeling Glucky?

600 FO wins and 60 FO% is not nothing, nor is his experience nothing either. He'd be no worse than Plekanec was but at least it won't cost a 2nd round pick at the deadline to get him if you sign him now for 900K.

he's such a tool..

(frank)ing banned me for weeks for nothing. (frank) that guy.

I hope Rielly becomes Captain just so he has to change his avatar.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Excuse me?

You’re in a Leafs thread bragging about Giroux and you expect people to pat you on the back. Snap out of it man. Go back to the Flyers thread.
- shack67

Hextall drafts well, but he never seems to make a big move for any decent ufas. So they come here where the action is so that they can believe that their team is relevant.

Looks like someone doesnt understand how Vegas works

Theyre only that high because they know theres an abundance of dumbasses like yourself who will actually lay money on it

I mean, it's not as funny as a well known troll and clearly butt hurt Isles fan chiming in with an inane little quip but I guess it's good for a chuckle.
- BlueBallz

I know that’s the easy thing to say. I must be butt hurt due to me pointing out you contradicting yourself.

new blog everyone

Looks like someone doesnt understand how Vegas works

Theyre only that high because they know theres an abundance of dumbasses like yourself who will actually lay money on it
- Komisaurus Rex

And also because they are elite players who have a chance to win the Hart.

Lets keep it relevant, past 5 years? Noone wants to answer because JT doesn't stack up.
- ClaudeFather

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