I thought ELCs were 3 years strictly? Doesw that change a bit depending on where they come from?
- VladDrag

Depends on their age.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#elc

The length of the entry-level contract is also dependent on the player’s age:

18-21 years of age: 3 years
22-23 years of age: 2 years
24 years of age: 1 year

They're at 48 contracts. Amarosa doesn't matter. Fine with signing him to an AHL deal, but if he wants to look elsewhere good luck buddy.

Question for those who get to follow the Phantoms closer than I do. Do they have any legitimate players who are known as good PKers that are well rounded enough to crack the opening roster? I hear NAK a fair amount as a possibility.

Question for those who get to follow the Phantoms closer than I do. Do they have any legitimate players who are known as good PKers that are well rounded enough to crack the opening roster? I hear NAK a fair amount as a possibility.
- SimmerDown

I've heard Cole Bardreau's name thrown around quite a bit in this capacity.

Depends on their age.

https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#elc

The length of the entry-level contract is also dependent on the player’s age:

18-21 years of age: 3 years
22-23 years of age: 2 years
24 years of age: 1 year
- Feanor

Danke.

I've heard Cole Bardreau's name thrown around quite a bit in this capacity.
- jmatchett383

I sure would like to see at least one new face on the ice for the PK since no coaching changes are coming. Hopefully they at least adapt to a more pressure system

I sure would like to see at least one new face on the ice for the PK since no coaching changes are coming. Hopefully they at least adapt to a more pressure system
- SimmerDown

Well, I don't think Filppula and Manning will be regulars this year.

I think it had more to do with system than it did players. Not that they didn't need to upgrade the personnel, but I don't think that a unit of Bergeron's and Pronger's would have had much success with the system that was deployed the last few years.

Well, I don't think Filppula and Manning will be regulars this year.

I think it had more to do with system than it did players. Not that they didn't need to upgrade the personnel, but I don't think that a unit of Bergeron's and Pronger's would have had much success with the system that was deployed the last few years.
- jmatchett383

I would like to see a change in strategy simply from a common sense standpoint of if something isn't working, make a change. However I think it was far more about personnel and on ice execution than it was about the system.

I would like to see a change in strategy simply from a common sense standpoint of if something isn't working, make a change. However I think it was far more about personnel and on ice execution than it was about the system.
- MJL

Personnel was definitely a huge piece, on the PK I think it was both Personnel and system.

I would like to see a change in strategy simply from a common sense standpoint of if something isn't working, make a change. However I think it was far more about personnel and on ice execution than it was about the system.
- MJL

I agree to a point. I think the majority blames Lappy for the passive, not so aggressive approach. Okay, so if the players aren’t aggressively attacking the puck carrier, well I guess they should be doing a better job of getting sticks in the passing lanes and bodies in shooting lanes.

It’s both the coaching approach and the personnel on the ice. No question.

Well, I don't think Filppula and Manning will be regulars this year.

I think it had more to do with system than it did players. Not that they didn't need to upgrade the personnel, but I don't think that a unit of Bergeron's and Pronger's would have had much success with the system that was deployed the last few years.
- jmatchett383

Based on the results of the last few seasons, I don't see how you can just repeatedly blame it on the personnel. The coaching staff is either implementing a bad system or they are choosing the wrong personnel. I don't think it's fair to say after 3+ years, "if only we had some good penalty killers!"

I agree to a point. I think the majority blames Lappy for the passive, not so aggressive approach. Okay, so if the players aren’t aggressively attacking the puck carrier, well I guess they should be doing a better job of getting sticks in the passing lanes and bodies in shooting lanes.

It’s both the coaching approach and the personnel on the ice. No question.
- SuperSchennBros

Thats a fair point but I really can't think of another club that we saw the team go up against that had as passive of a system as the Flyers.

Thats a fair point but I really can't think of another club that we saw the team go up against that had as passive of a system as the Flyers.
- flyer_nutter

This for sure...PK looks passive and the front of the net and side posts were often free space for opponents to shoot. Morin could really help when healthy but the system seems flawed.

This for sure...PK looks passive and the front of the net and side posts were often free space for opponents to shoot. Morin could really help when healthy but the system seems flawed.
- NC Flyers Fan

Its crap. You'd be tempted to think that its just bound to improve as the players get better on the big club but I am not sure this will be the case. Hopefully I guess.

Wonder if its another poop performance we finally see Lappy gone.

Letting teams pick you apart is meh, but I strongly disagree with the idea of simply blocking lanes with minimum pressure. You are asking your players to get injured as the opposing team can really tee it up.

Its crap. You'd be tempted to think that its just bound to improve as the players get better on the big club but I am not sure this will be the case. Hopefully I guess.

Wonder if its another poop performance we finally see Lappy gone.

Letting teams pick you apart is meh, but I strongly disagree with the idea of simply blocking lanes with minimum pressure. You are asking your players to get injured as the opposing team can really tee it up.
- flyer_nutter

I can’t even say what the plans for the PK was. The plans maybe so rarely came together that I missed it. It didn’t look like challenging the puck carrier was a high option in the plans.

Based on the results of the last few seasons, I don't see how you can just repeatedly blame it on the personnel. The coaching staff is either implementing a bad system or they are choosing the wrong personnel. I don't think it's fair to say after 3+ years, "if only we had some good penalty killers!"
- YuenglingJagr

You're so ignorant I can't stand it.

Since there was no coaching change and no major PK personnel acquisitions, I can only hope system changes are made, different players are used, or they suddenly become better at executing whatever plans they have.

Well, I don't think Filppula and Manning will be regulars this year.

I think it had more to do with system than it did players. Not that they didn't need to upgrade the personnel, but I don't think that a unit of Bergeron's and Pronger's would have had much success with the system that was deployed the last few years.
- jmatchett383

A change is definitely required the PK is the biggest glaring team hole. I'm not expecting a top 10 PK for the upcoming season but middle of the pack would help steal a few more wins for the squad which will be necessary to get us out of the wild card position.

Personnel was definitely a huge piece, on the PK I think it was both Personnel and system.
- wcorvette

I don't think you can ever completely discount system. The Flyers made a number of adjustments according to the coaching staff. I think the fans want to see an pressure system but that is not a guarantee of anything. The Flyers were continually plagued with failed clears that was a huge part of the PK failures.

Based on the results of the last few seasons, I don't see how you can just repeatedly blame it on the personnel. The coaching staff is either implementing a bad system or they are choosing the wrong personnel. I don't think it's fair to say after 3+ years, "if only we had some good penalty killers!"
- YuenglingJagr

I think it's easy to do that. Look at the personnel. There is no system available that will be effective without execution from players.

In the last two seasons, who made up the top PK defense pairings?

Thats a fair point but I really can't think of another club that we saw the team go up against that had as passive of a system as the Flyers.
- flyer_nutter

We have Sean Couturier. He’s probably top five as one of the best defensive centers in the business. I don’t know what our goals against were with Coots on the ice during a kill but Coots has been around long enough to get by on the best of his own ability regardless of coaching. If Coots isn’t cutting off passes or getting in the way of shooting lanes using his big frame, that’s a bad job by him.

I don't think you can ever completely discount system. The Flyers made a number of adjustments according to the coaching staff. I think the fans want to see an pressure system but that is not a guarantee of anything. The Flyers were continually plagued with failed clears that was a huge part of the PK failures.
- MJL

Couldn't agree more with that. They handcuffed themselves far to frequently by whiffing on clearing attempts.

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Yes, I think it matters.

Amorosa won’t be the last kid with potential that doesn’t get signed in the Flyers’ super stacked system. They need to be very careful to not let any really good late bloomers get away.
I love all the great tidbits Bill shares about the prospects. It is all about building a winning franchise including the AHL. So as the future NHL players develop they do it with the habit of winning.
- NC Flyers Fan

thing is they are at 51 contracts, 3 in which slide so 48. Until they move a few contracts I wouldn't think they would want to add more for a marginal prospect.

Couldn't agree more with that. They handcuffed themselves far to frequently by whiffing on clearing attempts.
- SimmerDown

Oops! Absolute key and totally forgot about this, which is an absolute fact. It’s not even remotely Lappy’s fault that the Flyers always failed to clear the zone. Not even just on the PK! At even straight, the Flyers had nothing but problems getting the puck out of the defensive zone!