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pdx2ord
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 09.02.2015

Aug 8 @ 9:31 AM ET
He was notorious for skating right off the ice if the Hawks were knocked out of the playoffs.

If you ever happen to come across the highlights of the 71 Cup loss to Montreal, , as the game ends and the Habs start to celebrate, you can see Mikita heading to the locker room gate. lol




Somebody pls find this for me? I'd love to see it.
Funny how it matters which side you're on. I'd love to see the Makita skating off the ice after playoff loss, but Isiah doing it to Michael...pu__y (and I don't mean puppy).

- Cmonalready


Found this one, but unfortunately, couldn't see Espo and Mikita leaving the ice: https://www.youtube.com/w...4LBzm7QWEkI&frags=pl%2Cwn

There are a number of others under 1971 Stanley Cup
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Aug 8 @ 9:49 AM ET
I remember a funny episode from the 100+PIM yrs. One Saturday night my dad and I were watching a Hawks game from Toronto on good old WGN here in Chicago. Stan went a little nuts that night, and the Toronto crowd became relentless with the jeering. Good old #21 stood, got up on the bench in the penalty box, turned around, and started directing the crowd like a band director. It was hilarious.
I always thought Mr. Mikita was the guy that really made those teams from that era great.

R.I.P. Stosh !

- BobP.


I also watched the Saturday night road games on WGN way back when. I remember a game at Montreal the Hawks won handily. Stan must have had a few points that game because he was named the #1 star. When he was introduced as the star after the game he skated to center ice and took a deep theatrical bow to the crowd in each direction. I thought that was great.

R.I.P Stan.
BobP.
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 12.29.2010

Aug 8 @ 9:51 AM ET
I also watched the Saturday night road games on WGN way back when. I remember a game at Montreal the Hawks won handily. Stan must have had a few points that game because he was named the #1 star. When he was introduced as the star after the game he skated to center ice and took a deep theatrical bow to the crowd in each direction. I thought that was great.

R.I.P Stan.

- boilermaker100


That's funny ! I don't remember that one, but I can just picture him doing that. Thanks!
Hawkytalk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Frankfort, IL
Joined: 06.26.2012

Aug 8 @ 9:53 AM ET
Makita, Mohns, and Wharram
- BobP.[/quot

Ted Linsey was the original LW on the Scooter Line, followed by Ab McDonald, and eventually Doug Mohns.
All fantastic memories of #21...The Great Stash. RIP Stan. You will be missed.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Aug 8 @ 11:08 AM ET
Kind of shocked that EK hasn't put out a blog mentioning #21. Only Bill Meltzer (Phi) has mentioned him.

Must be a website loaded with fans who think the league started when Gretzky played.
Acur81
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 04.22.2009

Aug 8 @ 11:40 AM ET
Didn't realize that Stosh was only 8 years older than me. He is my all-time favorite Hawk(though Kane is closing the gap), not just because he played well, but because of the great man he was. Bobby was a great scorer, but not the greatest human being.

R.I.P. Stan
resqmed99
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2007

Aug 8 @ 12:34 PM ET
Kind of shocked that EK hasn't put out a blog mentioning #21. Only Bill Meltzer (Phi) has mentioned him.
- powerenforcer


Was just thinking this!
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Aug 8 @ 1:51 PM ET
So very sorry to here about Stan ,was my 1st Jersey and my favorite player by far ..R.I.P. Stan
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Aug 8 @ 2:21 PM ET
Rest in peace Stosh! Thanks for the memories, was glad to see you and Bobby play together live at the old Chicago stadium many times in the late 60s Through the 70s. Was there for your last game. Good night my friend!
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Aug 8 @ 3:38 PM ET
Kind of shocked that EK hasn't put out a blog mentioning #21. Only Bill Meltzer (Phi) has mentioned him.

Must be a website loaded with fans who think the league started when Gretzky played.

- powerenforcer



Maybe Tanner will put one out.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 8 @ 3:49 PM ET
I know AA is a big body and goes to net but my thinking is this is a silent rebuild and he is slow ,think the team needs speed , develop a younger player and clear cap space for future. He does produce , I agree.
If he stays on team this season hope they put some speed with him.

- CTblackhawkfan

Anisimov is still valuable to the team if he plays a defined role, especially on the PP, that takes advantage of his strengths like creating space for linemates, screening goalies, scoring goals from in close, etc. Like everyone else, if he is slotted and used properly, then he brings value to the Hawks which seem to be more appreciated by his teammates and coaches than fans.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
I look at roster and see 2 scoring lines and 2 4th lines? I would like to see a 3rd or a 4th line with lots of speed puts Defenses on their heels. Thanks Justin!
- CTblackhawkfan

I agree that the team should avoid icing 2 scoring lines and 2 stereotypical 4th lines. The best teams seem to have 3 lines that can score and a 4th line that can eat up minutes without hurting you defensively.

The 3rd and 4th lines should be able to take the D zone draws to take that pressure off of the 1st and 2nd lines. Agitating and playing relentlessly in all zones are definite pluses to amp up overall effectiveness.

And the 3rd line should still be a checking line that is strong defensively yet has scoring punch to not just be seen as a defensive unit with limited offense.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:03 PM ET
DeBrincat:
https://blackhawkup.com/2...ains-part-alex-debrincat/

Schmaltz:
https://blackhawkup.com/2...ns-part-ii-nick-schmaltz/

Blackhawks up has an article series discussing who they think are future alternate captain options for the team. So far they have highlighted DeBrincat and Schmaltz. Not sure what I think about either of them. IMHO, Hayden would be a front runner once he solidifies a roster spot.

They ended their last article with this teaser:

"Stay tuned for the other, possibly most likely, candidate to take over the A from last years roster."

They are most likely referring to Kane. In the small chance that it's not 88, then I would think it's either Saad or Murphy. Doubt it's Murphy, though, given how Q plays/doesn't play him.
chuckdahammer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.01.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:09 PM ET
Anisimov is still valuable to the team if he plays a defined role, especially on the PP, that takes advantage of his strengths like creating space for linemates, screening goalies, scoring goals from in close, etc. Like everyone else, if he is slotted and used properly, then he brings value to the Hawks which seem to be more appreciated by his teammates and coaches than fans.
- AEL_Fox









I agree with you ! you are absolutely right. I remember just a few years ago, everyone wanted the Hawks to get a 2nd line center .... but more importantly .. A BIG CENTER .... remember ? Since acquiring Anisimov and with the emergence of Nick Schmaltz, Anisimov can be a good 3rd line center
vandymeer23
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IA
Joined: 10.11.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:14 PM ET
What do you like about Stewart? I'll give you the fact he is big, but he's not good at hockey anymore. We have guys that are big, faster than Stewart, and can put up at least 20 pts in a season. We already signed Kunitz. Sorry, I'm just trying to follow the logic.
- Chunk

Physical can still skate and most importantly stand in front of the net and not be s perimeter player. He's also one of the toughest guys in today's game.
vandymeer23
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IA
Joined: 10.11.2014

Aug 8 @ 4:15 PM ET
Took the league by storm when he came in to the league with I believe the Blues and has been downhill since. However, he does provide the protect your teammate fear factor!
In that kind of role let a Hayden, Kunitz, or even Brouwer if brought back handle it!

- D2D

kunitz isn't a fighter. You dont want hayden being the only one along with manning who can hit and fight
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 8 @ 4:34 PM ET
kunitz isn't a fighter. You dont want hayden being the only one along with manning who can hit and fight
- vandymeer23

Hawks willing to hit consistently:
Kunitz
Hayden
Martinsen
Murphy
Manning
Seabrook

Hawks willing to fight:
Hayden
Martinsen
Murphy
Manning
Seabrook

https://blackhawkup.com/2...mula-the-blackhawks-need/

Timely article today by Blackhawkup about needing to add more grit. Not the best written article but the main premise is understood.
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Aug 8 @ 4:52 PM ET
Hawks willing to hit consistently:
Kunitz
Hayden
Martinsen
Murphy
Manning
Seabrook

Hawks willing to fight:
Hayden
Martinsen
Murphy
Manning
Seabrook

https://blackhawkup.com/2...mula-the-blackhawks-need/

Timely article today by Blackhawkup about needing to add more grit. Not the best written article but the main premise is understood.

- AEL_Fox


I don't think that Seabrook should be included in that mix. But this team seriously lacks grit. We have no net front presence at either end of the ice. That is why when talk turns to acquiring a player like Sbisa, I do not get excited.

EDIT: Sorry about the word fragmentation. Don't know what I am doing wrong.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 8 @ 5:07 PM ET
Physical can still skate and most importantly stand in front of the net and not be s perimeter player. He's also one of the toughest guys in today's game.
- vandymeer23


Stewart was fine 4-5 years ago, but since then he has either been injured, or not good enough to stay in the lineup. I think we have enough guys on the roster that can bang and skate and put up 20 pts. From where I am sitting, we need more quality defensemen (i.e. those that are at playing defensive hockey), and at least one more top 6 forward (can play effective offense and defense, and can put up about 50-60 pts).
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 8 @ 5:10 PM ET
I don't think that Seabrook should be included in that mix. But this team seriously lacks grit. We have no net front presence at either end of the ice. That is why when talk turns to acquiring a player like Sbisa, I do not get excited.

EDIT: Sorry about the word fragmentation. Don't know what I am doing wrong.

- 67hawks

Yeah, I was hesitant to put Seabrook on either list but relative to the rest of the team, he at least has a track record in those areas (albeit a declining track record).

Agree that net front presence on both ends of the rink is lacking. Even though he's neither a hitter nor a fighter, Anisimov at least has the size and skill to be effective parking his caboose in and around the slot.

As far as defenders who can clear the crease, that's why I'm hoping prospects like Hillman and Gilbert can develop into the role of stay-at-home D-man who will make the opponent pay the price crashing the net. I wish Svedberg would have developed into that role but that didn't happened.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Aug 8 @ 5:11 PM ET
I don't think that Seabrook should be included in that mix. But this team seriously lacks grit. We have no net front presence at either end of the ice. That is why when talk turns to acquiring a player like Sbisa, I do not get excited.

EDIT: Sorry about the word fragmentation. Don't know what I am doing wrong.

- 67hawks


We have guys that provide net front presence (AA, Hayden, Kunitz, Saad), its just that most of them are in the bottom 6.

A question for everyone: Can you please explain exactly what you mean when you say we need more "grit"? I just want to see if we are all talking about the same thing.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Aug 8 @ 5:17 PM ET
We have guys that provide net front presence (AA, Hayden, Kunitz, Saad), its just that most of them are in the bottom 6.

A question for everyone: Can you please explain exactly what you mean when you say we need more "grit"? I just want to see if we are all talking about the same thing.

- Chunk

Grit: willing to play physical; doesn't necessarily need to be a hit leader or fighter but able to push back when games get rough and the other team starts taking liberties on teammates; if a scrum happens, skate towards it to help out, not back to the bench or standing away from it.

Related to grit is compete level: ability to give 100% for a full 60 minutes + OT if it gets to that; willing to adjust play to the opponent while balancing in your own strengths; doing all the little things and dirty work to help the team win.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Aug 8 @ 5:30 PM ET
I don't think that Seabrook should be included in that mix. But this team seriously lacks grit. We have no net front presence at either end of the ice. That is why when talk turns to acquiring a player like Sbisa, I do not get excited.

EDIT: Sorry about the word fragmentation. Don't know what I am doing wrong.

- 67hawks


Seabrook used to be in that list but he has been playing much less physical. You can tell from his hitting has dropping off a lot with each of the last 4 seasons being career lows. His 85 hits last year was a far cry for a guy who was often throwing 2.5+ per game on average. No way has that guy been 100% healthy IMO. It will help the Hawks if he can get some mobility and physicality back.

I'm really interested to see who is going to throw their body around. Hawks top 10 in total hits last year... Wingels, Murphy, Bouma, Hayden, Hartman, Seabrook, Panik, Oesterle, Sharp, Keith. Not a physical group to begin with and 6 of those 10 are gone. Manning will throw some hits. Martinsen will play the body if he makes the team. Hillman probably a bit too. Ejdsell would create some traffic with his frame. AA is still here, so while soft, he does stand in front of the goalie.

Interesting to note, the Hawks who got the most "High Danger" shot attempts per minutes of ice-time (Even Strength)

Saad, Bouma, Jurco, Highmore, Hartman, Panik, Toews, Kampf, AA, Hinostroza.

50% of those guys are gone from the roster, so someone will need to be going to the area near the goal.
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Aug 8 @ 5:34 PM ET
Martinesen-Hayden wing combo on line 4 could do some damage on opposing defenders
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Aug 8 @ 5:36 PM ET
Grit: willing to play physical; doesn't necessarily need to be a hit leader or fighter but able to push back when games get rough and the other team starts taking liberties on teammates; if a scrum happens, skate towards it to help out, not back to the bench or standing away from it.

Related to grit is compete level: ability to give 100% for a full 60 minutes + OT if it gets to that; willing to adjust play to the opponent while balancing in your own strengths; doing all the little things and dirty work to help the team win.

- AEL_Fox


You are right. I think Kruger coming back helps in some of these areas if he is healthy. He takes a lot of punishment to make plays. Hawks are missing some of the guys who did that well. Bickell, Roszival, Shaw, Desjardins, Frolik, Hjalmarsson were some of the better Hawks when it came to absorbing some physical play and getting the puck going in the right direction.
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