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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:01 AM ET
It's just how it is. Even great players(Kucherov, Pastrnak) didn't sign until the last minute.

It's like asking why there are never any offer-sheets, or how Chiarelli remains gainfully employed.

- Wetbandit1

The longer it drags out the more I think they are working on a long term deal, which could be very good or very bad
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Aug 6 @ 12:05 AM ET
The longer it drags out the more I think they are working on a long term deal, which could be very good or very bad
- sbroads24

In Botts we trust?!
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 6 @ 12:11 AM ET
The longer it drags out the more I think they are working on a long term deal, which could be very good or very bad
- sbroads24


I don't know, I don't think anything should be read into it. It's so common for these guys to go right to the last minute and it goes from 1 year deals to long term. I can't think of any 8 year deals off the top of my head. Most top out around 5 years.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:15 AM ET
In Botts we trust?!
- PrinceChill

Yeah that’s one thing I do trust him so far.

I think Pegula nailed it with both teams so far
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Aug 6 @ 12:15 AM ET
I don't know, I don't think anything should be read into it. It's so common for these guys to go right to the last minute and it goes from 1 year deals to long term. I can't think of any 8 year deals off the top of my head. Most top out around 5 years.
- Wetbandit1

Was Risto 7 or 6?

It was 6
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Aug 6 @ 12:27 AM ET
Was Risto 7 or 6?

It was 6

- sbroads24


Yeah, there seems to be more 6 year deals than I remember, Rakell and Lindholm were also 6 years.

Edit: Pastrnak too.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 6 @ 12:33 AM ET
It's just how it is. Even great players(Kucherov, Pastrnak) didn't sign until the last minute.

It's like asking why there are never any offer-sheets, or how Chiarelli remains gainfully employed.

- Wetbandit1


Those are pretty specific analogies.

Lots of great players sign early

Jack eichel for example
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 6 @ 12:52 AM ET
Those are pretty specific analogies.

Lots of great players sign early

Jack eichel for example

- Boss34


It's always a waiting game. McDavid and Draisaitl pretty much locked in Eichel's value.

Sam, Nylander, and Larkin are still unsigned this year.
Sabrehagan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The 'Burbs, NY
Joined: 06.19.2015

Aug 6 @ 3:20 AM ET
Yes , those spots are already filled on the Sabres with there 3 main stars.

Eichel
dahlin
Mitts

So this guy puts up 25 goals and 25 assists / alot on eichels line, so he's great?

Dudes good, and doesn't bring any intangibles, other then net front presence.

Not a gym guy
Not a try hard guy
Not an overachiever

As a fan, he's not particularly an exciting player to watch.

You know the lack of speed thing and non flash

It's an opinion, is there anything wrong with the entertainment angle?

- Boss34


Just Curious,

What do you think it is that doesn't make Dahlin tough and not a penalty killer?(As per your reply) From what I heard he doesn't shy away from hitting and if he is going to be a Number 1 I would hope he would be at-least a decent penalty killer, even though he most likely will be better than decent.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Aug 6 @ 5:54 AM ET
Yes , those spots are already filled on the Sabres with there 3 main stars.

Eichel
dahlin
Mitts

So this guy puts up 25 goals and 25 assists / alot on eichels line, so he's great?

Dudes good, and doesn't bring any intangibles, other then net front presence.

Not a gym guy
Not a try hard guy
Not an overachiever

As a fan, he's not particularly an exciting player to watch.

You know the lack of speed thing and non flash

It's an opinion, is there anything wrong with the entertainment angle?

- Boss34


Good morning Sunshine
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Aug 6 @ 6:19 AM ET
Sup ya filthy animals..

(frank)in been out of my mind busy since the bar exam moving into the new place. Now i'm off to England for 2 weeks for my post-bar vacation.

But before I go..

Skinner

EFF the Sens
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 6 @ 7:39 AM ET
Yes , those spots are already filled on the Sabres with there 3 main stars.

Eichel
dahlin
Mitts

So this guy puts up 25 goals and 25 assists / alot on eichels line, so he's great?

Dudes good, and doesn't bring any intangibles, other then net front presence.

Not a gym guy
Not a try hard guy
Not an overachiever

As a fan, he's not particularly an exciting player to watch.

You know the lack of speed thing and non flash

It's an opinion, is there anything wrong with the entertainment angle?

- Boss34


Vanek wasn't exactly "fun" to watch except in the shootout or when he was sniping goals
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 6 @ 8:11 AM ET
Vanek wasn't exactly "fun" to watch except in the shootout or when he was sniping goals
- jcragcrumple

So when an offensive player isn't scoring he is boring? And in other news water is wet.
Whatnot78
Buffalo Sabres
Location: last place heros, VA
Joined: 02.21.2007

Aug 6 @ 8:17 AM ET

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Bills gave up a seventh-round pick in 2020 for Corey Coleman.

Seventh-round picks are not worth much to begin with, and that is doubly true for a pick which will not convey until 2020. The price both accentuates how good a move this was for Buffalo and how much Cleveland wanted to get rid of the 2016 first-round pick. Coleman is heading into arguably the worst passing game in the league, but he should see more targets than he would have with the Browns.





Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

burner087
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.18.2008

Aug 6 @ 8:30 AM ET
wow.. a 7th rounder.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Bills gave up a seventh-round pick in 2020 for Corey Coleman.

Seventh-round picks are not worth much to begin with, and that is doubly true for a pick which will not convey until 2020. The price both accentuates how good a move this was for Buffalo and how much Cleveland wanted to get rid of the 2016 first-round pick. Coleman is heading into arguably the worst passing game in the league, but he should see more targets than he would have with the Browns.





Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter




- Whatnot78
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 6 @ 8:41 AM ET
Coleman was virtually free. I'd take Marquise Goodwin for free any day. I was disappointed we let him walk, but I also realized we didn't come close to utilizing his skill set.

Another great Beane trade/move. They sat through camp, watched the mediocrity and pulled the trigger on a largely undervalued asset. Good for them. And good for us.

Edit: A 7th in two years is basically a UDFA so it was free
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 6 @ 8:53 AM ET
So when an offensive player isn't scoring he is boring? And in other news water is wet.
- sabresfan69


Well boss was saying he thinks Reinhart is boring. Vanek was one of my favorites, but he wasn't exactly fun to watch in the way Eichel is.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 6 @ 8:55 AM ET
Coleman was virtually free. I'd take Marquise Goodwin for free any day. I was disappointed we let him walk, but I also realized we didn't come close to utilizing his skill set.

Another great Beane trade/move. They sat through camp, watched the mediocrity and pulled the trigger on a largely undervalued asset. Good for them. And good for us.

Edit: A 7th in two years is basically a UDFA so it was free

- TheSabresTaco


Keep these coming. I chuckle every time.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 6 @ 8:58 AM ET
Well boss was saying he thinks Reinhart is boring. Vanek was one of my favorites, but he wasn't exactly fun to watch in the way Eichel is.
- jcragcrumple


If Boss, or anyone else for that matter, thinks Samson is boring it's because he lacks the analytical, perceptual and cognitive abilities to understand a masterpiece of such splendor.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 6 @ 9:24 AM ET
The longer it drags out the more I think they are working on a long term deal, which could be very good or very bad
- sbroads24


The good teams are always able to maximize their return on investment. The Blackhawks got Keith signed for $4.5M on a 12 year deal and that allowed them to keep the core around for as long as they did and win 3 Stanley Cups. Perhaps Reinhart signing long term now can prove to be a discount in the future as long as his performance relates to the second half of last season.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 6 @ 9:25 AM ET
Yes , those spots are already filled on the Sabres with there 3 main stars.

Eichel
dahlin
Mitts

So this guy puts up 25 goals and 25 assists / alot on eichels line, so he's great?

Dudes good, and doesn't bring any intangibles, other then net front presence.

Not a gym guy
Not a try hard guy
Not an overachiever

As a fan, he's not particularly an exciting player to watch.

You know the lack of speed thing and non flash

It's an opinion, is there anything wrong with the entertainment angle?

- Boss34


Yes. The New Jersey Devils won the SC playing the trap. Your entertainment has no baring on the game. Furthermore, if you talk smack about Rhino again, I will be forced to cut you. Cutting Sabres fans is something I absolutely abhor, so if you could play nice, it would best for all parties concerned.
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 6 @ 9:38 AM ET
Thing is, if Dahlin and Mittelstadt are as good as advertised, it removes the need for Sam to be a star.

He can be who he is and be very valuable to us.

It was different a year ago when it was evident we lacked an additional star player to Eichel

- sbroads24

the bigger point, which everyone overlooks

sam was a top 20 scorer in the nhl for the second half in his 3rd season


we have no clue what his ceiling is


his floor seems to be 20 goals and 45 points if played consistently on the second line


probably 55 points if given top line minutes
navinrjohnson
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are finally good, NY
Joined: 12.08.2009

Aug 6 @ 9:38 AM ET
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Bills gave up a seventh-round pick in 2020 for Corey Coleman.

Seventh-round picks are not worth much to begin with, and that is doubly true for a pick which will not convey until 2020. The price both accentuates how good a move this was for Buffalo and how much Cleveland wanted to get rid of the 2016 first-round pick. Coleman is heading into arguably the worst passing game in the league, but he should see more targets than he would have with the Browns.





Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter


- Whatnot78

JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Aug 6 @ 9:46 AM ET
WE ARE GOOD AT HOCKEY AGAIN RIGHT!!!?? RIGHT!!??
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Aug 6 @ 9:46 AM ET

- navinrjohnson


Imagine being this kid - two years ago he was a first rounder with the potential to be a star in the league. No he is being sent to "the worst passing game in the league" for a bag of peanut shells.

Hello, Self-Worth!!
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