Protein shakes by Gary Roberts
- Aaron_85

I for one am glad he is gone. Just for the facial hair alone...

Losing Bozak for nothing was not a big deal, but losing JVR for zip sucks. In this era of the NHL asset management is key. We will soon have star players on massive contracts and it is absolutely essential that we replenish the ranks with younger prospects and draft picks to stay competitive. We cannot rely on free agency
- Hockey_Reverend

Why on Earth would you trade for Plekanec if you're going to trade off your leading goal scorer?

Why is the only schmuck team in recent memory to do so St Louis? Why do any teams trade for rentals at all?

Cap space is an asset.

The biggest mistake of the Lou era was not trading JVR and Bozak for assets!

Truth bomb

Also, as the days go by Ottawa is becoming even more of a tire fire if that is even possible! bahaha!
- Hockey_Reverend

I disagree with your statement.

They were needed for the layoff which did not last long for the Leafs.

Kapanen and a 2nd for pesce.

Leave Faulk alone
- BrainSap

here here! yup he'd be one of the Dman I go after from the Canes.

You don't trade your leading scorer at the deadline when you are in the top ten overall and going in to the playoffs hot, doesn't matter if he's a UFA. At the end of the day they let JVR and Bozak walk and didn't get picks back for them, but guess what the consolation prize is they got Tavares instead.
- Zezel

PO run i get but a realist wouldn’t let that stop them from making moves. JT had no bearing on anything then or now. Losing JVR &/or Bozak with the offence that was left over was in good shape. Pausing on the rebuild was not necessary.

I disagree with your statement.

They were needed for the layoff which did not last long for the Leafs.
- dmnted

Risk vs Reward
Err on the side of assets IMO
PO’s were a stepping stone to contend not rushing contending.

PO run i get but a realist wouldn’t let that stop them from making moves. JT had no bearing on anything then or now. Losing JVR &/or Bozak with the offence that was left over was in good shape. Pausing on the rebuild was not necessary.
- Nighthawk

They just set a franchise records for points in a season, you don't poop on your guys by selling at the deadline. JT absolutely had bearing on it, because if you let a guy walk you get assets back, you get cap space which you can use, and they used it in a big way.

They just set a franchise records for points in a season, you don't poop on your guys by selling at the deadline. JT absolutely had bearing on it, because if you let a guy walk you get assets back, you get cap space which you can use, and they used it in a big way.
- Zezel

If they had traded their free agents at the deadline these guys would be crying that we would’ve beaten the Bruins with Bozie and JVR.

It’s that Unholy Goalie syndrome.

If they had traded their free agents at the deadline these guys would be crying that we would’ve beaten the Bruins with Bozie and JVR.

It’s that Unholy Goalie syndrome.
- shack67

Those guys would have been wrong because they would have lost anyway. And they wouldn't be crying on draft day with a bunch of extra picks to play with.

Protein shakes by Gary Roberts
- Aaron_85

I think Roberts makes more money working independently but the Leafs should back a dump truck filled with money up to his house to hire him, full time.

Those guys would have been wrong because they would have lost anyway. And they wouldn't be crying on draft day with a bunch of extra picks to play with.
- Unholy_Goalie

You can get away with this argument because of how things worked out, but if the Leafs hadn't collapsed in another game 7 and instead went on to the 2nd round, the discussion would be a little different.

Despite how utterly certain you were in your Nostradamus impersonation about Boston beating Toronto, the Leafs had a definite chance to move on in that series. Trading good players that contribute to success at the TDL does not generally help you do well in the playoffs. I understand totally why they held on to them.

Luckily, even though we lost them for nothing, we signed Tavares, which more than makes up for their loss imo.

You can get away with this argument because of how things worked out, but if the Leafs hadn't collapsed in another game 7 and instead went on to the 2nd round, the discussion would be a little different.
- Thecakeisalie

No it wouldn't because Tampa Bay would have blown them away. They didn't have a real chance last year in either round against either opponent.

Despite how utterly certain you were in your Nostradamus impersonation about Boston beating Toronto, the Leafs had a definite chance to move on in that series. Trading good players that contribute to success at the TDL does not generally help you do well in the playoffs. I understand totally why they held on to them.

Luckily, even though we lost them for nothing, we signed Tavares, which more than makes up for their loss imo.

Nah, they really didn't. They got blown apart for the first four games of the series, Andersen stole two games and their poopty play cost them a lead in game 7. The way they played last year, they were lucky to make game 7, not unlucky to not win.

Trading expiring contracts, getting more draft picks and giving more ice time to young guys would have been best. Adding more prospects plus Tavares would have been ideal.

No it wouldn't because Tampa Bay would have blown them away. They didn't have a real chance last year in either round against either opponent.



Nah, they really didn't. They got blown apart for the first four games of the series, Andersen stole two games and their poopty play cost them a lead in game 7. The way they played last year, they were lucky to make game 7, not unlucky to not win.

Trading expiring contracts, getting more draft picks and giving more ice time to young guys would have been best. Adding more prospects plus Tavares would have been ideal.
- Unholy_Goalie

here we go

No it wouldn't because Tampa Bay would have blown them away. They didn't have a real chance last year in either round against either opponent.



Nah, they really didn't. They got blown apart for the first four games of the series, Andersen stole two games and their poopty play cost them a lead in game 7. The way they played last year, they were lucky to make game 7, not unlucky to not win.

Trading expiring contracts, getting more draft picks and giving more ice time to young guys would have been best. Adding more prospects plus Tavares would have been ideal.
- Unholy_Goalie

Or Tavares would've said how serious is a team that trades away their top goal scorer before a run, subsequently signs with the Sharks.

Or Tavares would've said how serious is a team that trades away their top goal scorer before a run, subsequently signs with the Sharks.
- Blazed

Maple Leafs bed sheets were already tucked in on his bed.

Howard Berger
- Dozzer

Berger said nylander not involved

Berger said nylander not involved
- burn

Brown, Nielsen, and a 2nd.

How many Cup winning teams over the last 25 years were sellers at the deadline?

Brown, Nielsen, and a 2nd.
- Steven_Seagull

Send them a poopy package like Buffalo did with skinner

Mike posts how Faulk is expected to drop to the last pair, then goes on twitter and chastises poster becuase they're undervaluing the value of top 4 defenseman

Mike posts how Faulk is expected to drop to the last pair, then goes on twitter and chastises poster becuase they're undervaluing the value of top 4 defenseman
- burn

for some reason this popped into my head.

You can get away with this argument because of how things worked out, but if the Leafs hadn't collapsed in another game 7 and instead went on to the 2nd round, the discussion would be a little different.

Despite how utterly certain you were in your Nostradamus impersonation about Boston beating Toronto, the Leafs had a definite chance to move on in that series. Trading good players that contribute to success at the TDL does not generally help you do well in the playoffs. I understand totally why they held on to them.

Luckily, even though we lost them for nothing, we signed Tavares, which more than makes up for their loss imo.
- Thecakeisalie

The correct response is "ok".

If he is going to be an idiot about this, all over again, and again, and again, then don't engage him.

The correct response is "ok".

If he is going to be an idiot about this, all over again, and again, and again, then don't engage him.
- Aetherial

He makes so I dont even want to come on here anymore!

Pages and pages of argumentative flapping his yap.

The correct response is "ok".

If he is going to be an idiot about this, all over again, and again, and again, then don't engage him.
- Aetherial

The crazy thing is I don't think he even believes what he posts, it's simply for his amusement. Nobody can be that (frank)ing stupid on a consistent basis.

The crazy thing is I don't think he even believes what he posts, it's simply for his amusement. Nobody can be that (frank)ing stupid on a consistent basis.
- TrashPanda

It's an act, and it's tiresome as (frank).

He tried to tell me the other day that he never said "no chance Tavares signs with the leaf".