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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 3 @ 12:49 PM ET
Let’s be positive

My boy has been safe twice In trades I’m hoping he comes to camp with a great attitude And showing hes the best

- gerbe75pts



I might even go this way for the top 6

Skinner Jack Okposo
Sheary Casey Sam

Okposo is defensively decent to help Jack and Skinner in that regard.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:49 PM ET
Anyone have a guess to what another deal might be?
- SDSabre


One option is you get to training camp, you see who's who in the pecking order, then probably see what you can get for one or two of Bowls, Johan Girgensons or Nick Bailey.

I can't imagine a blockbuster at this stage. Perhaps some tinkering or one of the guys above being traded for a low pick and a useful AHL guy? Who knows.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Aug 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
Can Ottawa trade Stone now?

If so, can he immediately sign an extension?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
Anyone have a guess to what another deal might be?
- SDSabre


I wouldn’t mind Tanev from Vancouver. Don’t know what it would take though.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 3 @ 12:50 PM ET
One option is you get to training camp, you see who's who in the pecking order, then probably see what you can get for one or two of Bowls, Johan Girgensons or Nick Bailey.

I can't imagine a blockbuster at this stage. Perhaps some tinkering or one of the guys above being traded for a low pick and a useful AHL guy? Who knows.

- TheSabresTaco



I'd love to see another addition to the top 4 (RHD)

But I doubt that happens this late in the summer.

I am very pleased with this offseason
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:51 PM ET
Skinner has a full NMC

Carolina was stuck because he vetoed trades already (allegedly)

Botterill goes I am not giving you a first at all and Carolina has no leverage in that matter.

I think Skinner signs in November

- Stripes77


I got sidetracked and meant to add to my post about how Waddell really/probably didn't have any better options given the NMC. But yeah.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:52 PM ET
I might even go this way for the top 6

Skinner Jack Okposo
Sheary Casey Sam

Okposo is defensively decent to help Jack and Skinner in that regard.

- Stripes77


Okposo can also go in the corners and isn’t afraid in that regard. I would do these lines as well.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:53 PM ET
I'd love to see another addition to the top 4 (RHD)

But I doubt that happens this late in the summer.

I am very pleased with this offseason

- Stripes77


Sure. Use one of the 1sts along with Scandella or McCabeon a young quality top 3 with top line ceiling, that'd be great. Who's trading those players? I'd say Montreal but I think they're fresh out of assets.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Aug 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
Okposo can also go in the corners and isn’t afraid in that regard. I would do these lines as well.
- Pegullaville



Sam does go to the dirty areas and does win puck battles, but usually with his hands and smarts, he loses in the physicality battles.

Plus it could boost Okposo's stats if you're looking to move him (not sure what Botterill is thinking when it comes to him)
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Aug 3 @ 12:54 PM ET
Can Ottawa trade Stone now?

If so, can he immediately sign an extension?

- jcragcrumple


They can trade him whenever they want. It would be extremely poor ethics by Dorian, but he can. And yes, I believe he can sign that extension post trade.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Aug 3 @ 12:58 PM ET
What i think we will do?
Or what I’d do?

- jdfitz77


What you would do
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Aug 3 @ 12:59 PM ET
That's good. The thing that worries me is how little we gave up, and that there were no conditions put on any of the picks (i.e. the 2nd become a 1st if he signs). It makes me think both parties knew he was going to FA either way, so the cost was cheap.
- Cup Crazy '07


We get the 2nd and a prospect back at the deadline, at minimum, if this is true. I will trade a 3rd and a 6th for a year of Skinner...that would be disappointing, but not very risky.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Aug 3 @ 1:01 PM ET
cough cough
- TheSabresTaco


well done sir!
eNDSo
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 06.20.2016

Aug 3 @ 1:03 PM ET
If you keep Sheary on the 2nd line all year. You are going to get more than 20 goals out of him. He is streaky, if you demote him when hes bad youll miss out on when hes good.
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Aug 3 @ 1:06 PM ET
If you keep Sheary on the 2nd line all year. You are going to get more than 20 goals out of him. He is streaky, if you demote him when hes bad youll miss out on when hes good.
- eNDSo


Sheary (by default) is on the second line. LW is our weakest position in the organization. I hope you are correct about the 20+ goals!
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Aug 3 @ 1:08 PM ET
cough cough
- TheSabresTaco

Well done both of you.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Aug 3 @ 1:21 PM ET
The team is looking better
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 3 @ 1:29 PM ET
The Sabres are not in a state that we would be acquiring rentals. This player was traded for for the potential to become long term. I believe Botts mentioned in his presser last night that they'd see how he fit into the team dynamic prior to signing him.
- TheSabresTaco



I think the whole " Sabres are not good" narrative needs a break. Why cant you see the progress?

If we're in it in (which I have fully expected) we will give up assets at the deadline
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 3 @ 1:32 PM ET
Bailey-Rodrigues-Baptiste
I’d like to see that line play, even though it would be the 4th line

I don’t think it’ll happen though

Looks like I’m one of the few who still like Bailey & Baptiste

- jdfitz77



More likely in Rochester

NONE of the guys are Jbotts guys
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 3 @ 1:34 PM ET
He is if he's in your top 9.

Point I'm trying to make here is that he's not as useless as people seem to think he is. In fact, he's one of the few bright spots in the bottom 6 from last year.

- TheSabresTaco



I agree

Pommer can net 15 goals again this year.

As a 4th liner, that's ok in my BOOK
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
Skinner has a full NMC

Carolina was stuck because he vetoed trades already (allegedly)

Botterill goes I am not giving you a first at all and Carolina has no leverage in that matter.

I think Skinner signs in November

- Stripes77

because he got traded, is the NMC removed so they can easily trade him as a rental if we stink and he does not want to sign an extension?

I think it is
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Aug 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
Give him the Evander Kane deal and move on, after signing Sam that is
- Stripes77



Anyone worried about Sam's self inflated worth being a hold up in contract discussions?

Last year I heard he was asking for ryan Johansen $

Jbotts wouldn't even hear it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:38 PM ET
I’m pretty positive we’re going to sign Jeff Skinner


But just to point out he does not have a NMC anymore
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Aug 3 @ 1:40 PM ET
Anyone worried about Sam's self inflated worth being a hold up in contract discussions?

Last year I heard he was asking for ryan Johansen $

Jbotts wouldn't even hear it

- Boss34


Sam does deserve a contract raise for his play this year his stats have increased every year but I don’t think he’s deserving of $8 million A year
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 3 @ 1:40 PM ET
Anyone worried about Sam's self inflated worth being a hold up in contract discussions?


- Boss34

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