Ummm...Ceci is asking for 6mil. That's some A+ news.
- AdamFrench

he deserves close to that. Hard to find top pairing D.
Sens should lock him up

Imagine losing a debate on the internet so thoroughly, that you had to disappear in shame, even though you are "anonymous".

he deserves close to that. Hard to find top pairing D.
Sens should lock him up
- senstroll

It never ends.

he deserves close to that. Hard to find top pairing D.
Sens should lock him up
- senstroll

Can't replace a 24+ minute a night defender.

new blog everyone

new blog everyone
- mikeinbuffalo

Source?

I cant..... Given this PC sensitive sally era we live in now in 2018 i would probably be looked at as the worst person ever if i gave any un-sheep like opinion.
- Burkefection

I find your constant negative stereotyping of sheep to be deeply offensive.

I have been triggered.

Admittedly, there are a lot of social justice warriors nowadays, but how do you feel about the Osuna deal? Do you think he had to be moved or should the Jays have tried to "rehabilitate' him
- PatC80

If this was 5-10 years ago they wouldnt have traded him, and worked with him to rehabilitate his image. Unfortunately now with the rise of this MeToo movement as an organization that is already hurting to put butts in the seats they needed to make this move. Now that hes gone to Houston i guarantee it gets forgotten about. over time no one will care.

This is just the hot new topic that all the sheep want to jump on. Lets ruin someones life, possible lead them to kill themselves (See Anne Sofie von Otter story about her husband) We are so quick to point fingers now a days if a women comes out and makes a claim, we dont even care about evidence anymore. Why? Everyone loves a victim story. Its sad to see honestly.

I cant..... Given this PC sensitive sally era we live in now in 2018 i would probably be looked at as the worst person ever if i gave any un-sheep like opinion.
- Burkefection

You sound pretty sensitive about, it must be
awfully hard on you.

Admittedly, there are a lot of social justice warriors nowadays, but how do you feel about the Osuna deal? Do you think he had to be moved or should the Jays have tried to "rehabilitate' him
- PatC80

I hate that we had to trade one of the best Closers in the game who is only 23 years old.

But I understand completely why he was traded and I don't disagree with it.

Just that the return was complete garbage compared to what he should have fetched in return.

Ya he wasnt the only one saying JT wouldnt come here.
- Fakepartofme

Literally the only guy to ever do what he did. Really happy that he decided to play for the Leafs but nobody had any hard evidence to prove he was coming. And all the same people who were saying he was coming (they were actually praying) were the same people saying Stamkos was coming and every other big name Toronto boy was coming before that. It was really nice to finally get one but the odds were stacked against it. Like a Doyle Brunson.

No (frank) Osuna..Jays did the right thing.
Its annoying Fans are so willing to just overlook poopty people and behaviour because you think it helps your team.

I am the biggest Jays fan around and (frank) that guy (and Zaun)
- senstroll

This makes as much sense as this GIF.

What Osuna did is not a "Mistake" .. again (frank) that guy..who wants a piece of poop on their team?

Seriosly Fans will cry about Phil Kessel not backchecking and want him off the team for that but be fine with what Osuna did.

(frank) that guy
- senstroll

Yes, it was a mistake. Chapman made the same one not long ago. He's 23, remember that.

The virtue signalling is strong with you.

What is he remorseful for at this point?
I mean, I am not generally remorseful of stuff I didnt do
- senstroll

Remorseful for putting himself in a bad situation and becoming a distraction. Again, you instantly assume, like many other dummies out there in the world today, that an accusation equals an execution.

The Jays did the right thing and thats great.
it may end up going away.but guess what that doesnt mean he didnt do it. they said he is remorseful and was in counseling..why would innocent people do that?

The Jays must be confident there is truth to the charges.
Some fans dont care about DV enough..but imo baseball is secondary..luckily the Astros were willing to give up a decent package...but I dont really care about that. i cant cheer for poopty people

(frank) Osuna
- senstroll

They did the "right thing" in the PR move. They took the easy way out.

Again, "counseling" and not fighting the suspension are his quickest options to getting back to playing baseball. There was no chance they'd reverse the suspension and it would cost him more money to fight it than to win it. Chapman did the same even though he was found innocent.

They got a garbage package.

What if they know he will be convicted or plea down a charge.

I disagree with your point.

Because they are in a constantly public-facing business and the players are potentially role-models for young people, paying him millions of dollars (or any amount for that matter) constitutes tacit approval on their part. I am glad he is gone.
- Aetherial

What if they don't? What if they know (frank) all because the trial hasn't been done yet and nobody knows what actually happened yet but they just took the easy way out to appease the PR Gods?

Again, if he is guilty, which he hasn't been found yet, he could do a lot more positive things for the community by going around and showing people how to learn from his mistakes. Just because he did one bad thing (if he did it at all) doesn't mean he's completely irredeemable.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that he is guilty. He was suspending, he lost money, the judge punishes him and he fills out that punishment. Then, on top of that, he never does it again and starts a charity, donating millions to it and going around to every school in the GTA telling kids the pitfalls of his mistakes and in doing so prevents a future generation of kids from making the same mistakes he made. You can't undo the past but you can atone for your actions and become a positive force in the community and earn redemption.

This idea that players have to be perfect people or perfect role models is stupid. They're players, not saints. Ideally, yes, you'd hope they are good people but when they make mistakes, they can pay their punishments and come back from it.

If the MLB allows him to play baseball, there's no reason he couldn't do it in Toronto with enough effort and hard work to make up for any wrong doing he may have done.

Literally the only guy to ever do what he did. Really happy that he decided to play for the Leafs but nobody had any hard evidence to prove he was coming. And all the same people who were saying he was coming (they were actually praying) were the same people saying Stamkos was coming and every other big name Toronto boy was coming before that. It was really nice to finally get one but the odds were stacked against it. Like a Doyle Brunson.
- Unholy_Goalie

No one said they had hard proof he was coming. THey said it was a possibility. They did say that he was a lifelong leafs fan, which you denied. Going so far as to say that if he chose to sign with leafs cause of 10yr old fantasy than he's an idiot.


Conversely no one had any hard evidence why he wouldn't come.

This makes as much sense as this GIF.





Yes, it was a mistake. Chapman made the same one not long ago. He's 23, remember that.

The virtue signalling is strong with you.



Remorseful for putting himself in a bad situation and becoming a distraction. Again, you instantly assume, like many other dummies out there in the world today, that an accusation equals an execution.



They did the "right thing" in the PR move. They took the easy way out.

Again, "counseling" and not fighting the suspension are his quickest options to getting back to playing baseball. There was no chance they'd reverse the suspension and it would cost him more money to fight it than to win it. Chapman did the same even though he was found innocent.

They got a garbage package.
- Unholy_Goalie

Being remorseful sure seems like admission of guilt.

Champman was not found to be innocent.

Chapman, who had pitched with the Cincinnati Reds since defecting from Cuba in 2009, was traded to the Yankees in December after news about the alleged domestic violence incident became public and torpedoed a trade deal with the Los Angeles Dodgers.

http://www.sun-sentinel.c...arges-20160121-story.html


Chapman was traded shortly after news broke and a trade to the Dodgers fell through because of the leak

They got a garbage package because that was his value, no one wanted him.

Hockeybuzz, the place for the ill-informed to post nonsensical garbage with no clue and pretend they know it all.

Unreal. You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but they just keep coming back and getting bent over time and time again.

Hockeybuzz, the place for the ill-informed to post nonsensical garbage with no clue and pretend they know it all.

Unreal. You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but they just keep coming back and getting bent over time and time again.
- burn

You described the internet... and literally any other forum digital or physical where humans discuss things.

What if they don't? What if they know (frank) all because the trial hasn't been done yet and nobody knows what actually happened yet but they just took the easy way out to appease the PR Gods?

Again, if he is guilty, which he hasn't been found yet, he could do a lot more positive things for the community by going around and showing people how to learn from his mistakes. Just because he did one bad thing (if he did it at all) doesn't mean he's completely irredeemable.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that he is guilty. He was suspending, he lost money, the judge punishes him and he fills out that punishment. Then, on top of that, he never does it again and starts a charity, donating millions to it and going around to every school in the GTA telling kids the pitfalls of his mistakes and in doing so prevents a future generation of kids from making the same mistakes he made. You can't undo the past but you can atone for your actions and become a positive force in the community and earn redemption.

This idea that players have to be perfect people or perfect role models is stupid. They're players, not saints. Ideally, yes, you'd hope they are good people but when they make mistakes, they can pay their punishments and come back from it.

If the MLB allows him to play baseball, there's no reason he couldn't do it in Toronto with enough effort and hard work to make up for any wrong doing he may have done.
- Unholy_Goalie

ok

No one said they had hard proof he was coming. THey said it was a possibility. They did say that he was a lifelong leafs fan, which you denied. Going so far as to say that if he chose to sign with leafs cause of 10yr old fantasy than he's an idiot.
- burn

Never denied it was a possibility. Never said he wasn't a Leafs fan. And he did sign in large part because of his 10 year old fantasy.

Conversely no one had any hard evidence why he wouldn't come.

Yeah, it was called history. All the same people saying Stamkos was going to sign and every other Toronto boy before that was going to sign were saying Tavares was going to sign. The history that no other player in his position ever had before. It was a Doyle Brunson signing. And I'm glad he signed.

Being remorseful sure seems like admission of guilt.
- burn

It isn't.

Champman was not found to be innocent.

Oh really?

On December 7, 2015, news broke that he was involved in an alleged domestic violence incident with his girlfriend in Davie, Florida at Chapman's home on October 30, 2015.[67] A pending trade with the Los Angeles Dodgers was put on hold as MLB announced it would be investigating the incident as part of its domestic violence policy.[68] In the incident, he was accused of choking his girlfriend and firing eight gunshots. No charges were filed by the police due to inconsistency in his girlfriend's reports and lack of physical evidence, and his attorney issued a statement denying the allegations.[69] The trade was rescinded and the Reds traded Chapman to the Yankees three weeks later. Although he was not charged, the MLB banned him for 30 games as a result of "Chapman's use of the firearm and its effect on his partner," ending May 9, 2016. He was the first player disciplined by new rules enacted in August 2015, which allows the MLB to ban a player from games without a final sentence.

Hockeybuzz, the place for the ill-informed to post nonsensical garbage with no clue and pretend they know it all.

Unreal. You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but they just keep coming back and getting bent over time and time again.
- burn

Pot calling the kettle black, as usual. Getting "bent over" again.

Never denied it was a possibility. Never said he wasn't a Leafs fan. And he did sign in large part because of his 10 year old fantasy.



Yeah, it was called history. All the same people saying Stamkos was going to sign and every other Toronto boy before that was going to sign were saying Tavares was going to sign. The history that no other player in his position ever had before. It was a Doyle Brunson signing. And I'm glad he signed.
- Unholy_Goalie

Revisionist history is wonderful. People here said Tavares may come here and you spout off with bullpoop about taxes (that you clearly didn't understand) and how he wanted to be anonymous. You literaly said it cannot happen, no chance.

But since it happened you pretend it didn't happen and you were on the side of Tavares is signing here all along.

The was no history because there was never a time when the leafs were an elite team with the chance to sign an elite player. Of course no one came before because the leafs were a mess for years, why would they come

Revisionist history is wonderful. People here said Tavares may come here and you spout off with bullpoop about taxes (that you clearly didn't understand) and how he wanted to be anonymous. You literaly said it cannot happen, no chance.

But since it happened you pretend it didn't happen and you were on the side of Tavares is signing here all along.

The was no history because there was never a time when the leafs were an elite team with the chance to sign an elite player. Of course no one came before because the leafs were a mess for years, why would they come
- burn

100% wrong, as usual and you can't prove otherwise because it didn't actually happen.

It isn't.



Oh really?

On December 7, 2015, news broke that he was involved in an alleged domestic violence incident with his girlfriend in Davie, Florida at Chapman's home on October 30, 2015.
- Unholy_Goalie[67] A pending trade with the Los Angeles Dodgers was put on hold as MLB announced it would be investigating the incident as part of its domestic violence policy.[68] In the incident, he was accused of choking his girlfriend and firing eight gunshots. No charges were filed by the police due to inconsistency in his girlfriend's reports and lack of physical evidence, and his attorney issued a statement denying the allegations.[69] The trade was rescinded and the Reds traded Chapman to the Yankees three weeks later. Although he was not charged, the MLB banned him for 30 games as a result of "Chapman's use of the firearm and its effect on his partner," ending May 9, 2016. He was the first player disciplined by new rules enacted in August 2015, which allows the MLB to ban a player from games without a final sentence.



Pot calling the kettle black, as usual. Getting "bent over" again.

What is he remorseful of if not for doing it?

What is he remorseful of if not for doing it?
- burn

Becoming a distraction off the field?

It isn't.



Oh really?

On December 7, 2015, news broke that he was involved in an alleged domestic violence incident with his girlfriend in Davie, Florida at Chapman's home on October 30, 2015.
- Unholy_Goalie[67] A pending trade with the Los Angeles Dodgers was put on hold as MLB announced it would be investigating the incident as part of its domestic violence policy.[68] In the incident, he was accused of choking his girlfriend and firing eight gunshots. No charges were filed by the police due to inconsistency in his girlfriend's reports and lack of physical evidence, and his attorney issued a statement denying the allegations.[69] The trade was rescinded and the Reds traded Chapman to the Yankees three weeks later. Although he was not charged, the MLB banned him for 30 games as a result of "Chapman's use of the firearm and its effect on his partner," ending May 9, 2016. He was the first player disciplined by new rules enacted in August 2015, which allows the MLB to ban a player from games without a final sentence.



Pot calling the kettle black, as usual. Getting "bent over" again.

This doesn't show he was innocent no evidence here that says he's innocent. He was suspended by the league for being innocent?

So typical. Can't post evidence of what you said,, but still thinks you're right.