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senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 31 @ 9:22 AM ET
Just saying, you seem to be really pissed at what the guy did.....but you dont know what he did.

He obviously did something....what? Dont know.

- Fakepartofme


sign up for the Athletic..good content..smrt writers

https://theathletic.com/4...r-hands-of-roberto-osuna/

General manager Ross Atkins says this was about consummating a good baseball deal. But if you’re a team constantly craving young and controllable major-league-ready pitching, there is no obvious reason to trade away a 23-year-old fireballer with three-plus years as a reliable closer and two more years of team control.

Unless that pitcher has a criminal assault charge hanging over his head. Unless that pitcher chose not to fight the evidence against him gathered by Major League Baseball investigators from Toronto police, who accuse him of assault on a woman who is the mother of his child.
Unless that pitcher accepted a 75-game suspension and loss of $2.5 million in wages — not an admission of guilt under the law, as his lawyer stresses, but certainly an acknowledgment of the weight of MLB’s evidence in the high court of baseball.


also gave up 2.5 mil without a fight (maybe a poor choice of words but you get it)
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 31 @ 9:23 AM ET
That's basically what the Jays did in trading him for fear of the "PR optics". Still doesn't mean that the Jays "support domestic violence" by letting him play again, especially if he hasn't been convicted of anything yet either.

The Jays weren't there when it happened, just like nobody else except the parties involved. That's why trials exist.

- Unholy_Goalie


What if they know he will be convicted or plea down a charge.

I disagree with your point.

Because they are in a constantly public-facing business and the players are potentially role-models for young people, paying him millions of dollars (or any amount for that matter) constitutes tacit approval on their part. I am glad he is gone.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:25 AM ET
he's a good teammate and guy, and a terrible hockey player who contributes nothing to winning. He hurts a teams chances of winning
- FLAM3SFAN


Made the playoffs both years he was here...

*hides*
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 31 @ 9:25 AM ET
baseball in a nutshell


- plantheparade


you get this also

https://www.mlb.com/redso...-2323927783?tid=220294350

RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jul 31 @ 9:40 AM ET
[quote=senstroll]
Is that Athletic really worth it? I know it's cheap, it's just I feel weird paying for print media at all these days

I might just do that trial and see for myself
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jul 31 @ 9:45 AM ET
you get this also

https://www.mlb.com/redso...-2323927783?tid=220294350

- senstroll


yeah.. truly 'sensational'
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jul 31 @ 9:49 AM ET
We will see exactly what's up PR wise with the Jays and MLB if Osuna earns World Series MVP consideration.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 31 @ 9:56 AM ET
[quote=senstroll]
I agree with you, Osuna had to be moved. I gotta believe that the Jays and for that matter, MLB know what he did.. If I was innocent, I wouldn't willingly part with $2.5M
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 31 @ 9:59 AM ET
The Jays did the right thing and thats great.
it may end up going away.but guess what that doesnt mean he didnt do it. they said he is remorseful and was in counseling..why would innocent people do that?

The Jays must be confident there is truth to the charges.
Some fans dont care about DV enough..but imo baseball is secondary..luckily the Astros were willing to give up a decent package...but I dont really care about that. i cant cheer for poopty people

(frank) Osuna

- senstroll


Also, this;

How could someone say "I'm truly sorry for my actions, but I didn't do anything"
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:26 AM ET
He was just the only one saying it in his particular style of communication, that's why he's the only one getting roasted now.
- Zezel

His Goalier than thou style wears fast.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:33 AM ET
His Goalier than thou style wears fast.
- Feeling Glucky?


him just railing on everyone about how Tavares wasnt signing with the Leafs..because of reasons..and then being totally wrong is one of the best HB moments of my life

Burkefection
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston, Tavares
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:47 AM ET
When did hockeybuzz turn into the #Metoo0evidence, baseballbuzz? Dozzer Dozzing off? End this madness. if i wanted to read about baseball i would go to a baseball site, if i wanted to be annoyed by the lack of evidence and sheep filled people on this metoo movement i would go to any boring news site. Enough.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:50 AM ET
When did hockeybuzz turn into the #Metoo0evidence, baseballbuzz? Dozzer Dozzing off? End this madness. if i wanted to read about baseball i would go to a baseball site, if i wanted to be annoyed by the lack of evidence and sheep filled people on this metoo movement i would go to any boring news site. Enough.
- Burkefection


Please tell us how you really feel?
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:51 AM ET
Please tell us how you really feel?
- PatC80

I think he did it well enough the first time.
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jul 31 @ 10:52 AM ET
JAROMIR JAGR
Burkefection
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Auston, Tavares
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:53 AM ET
Please tell us how you really feel?
- PatC80



I cant..... Given this PC sensitive sally era we live in now in 2018 i would probably be looked at as the worst person ever if i gave any un-sheep like opinion.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:54 AM ET
I think he did it well enough the first time.
- AdamFrench

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 31 @ 10:54 AM ET
him just railing on everyone about how Tavares wasnt signing with the Leafs..because of reasons..and then being totally wrong is one of the best HB moments of my life
- senstroll


Ek's post that had something like his job was to be a mirror was one of my faves.

I also like when the HFboards guys sucked him by making up some fake trade rumour and Eklund reported it as coming from a source.

... Oh, and the "Who is in a better situation" thread has been glorious because of the contuining and unprecedented level of destruction unleashed on the thoughts and opinions of the two idiot Sens fans, who have had to disappear in shame
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 31 @ 10:55 AM ET
When did hockeybuzz turn into the #Metoo0evidence, baseballbuzz? Dozzer Dozzing off? End this madness. if i wanted to read about baseball i would go to a baseball site, if i wanted to be annoyed by the lack of evidence and sheep filled people on this metoo movement i would go to any boring news site. Enough.
- Burkefection


In case you haven't noticed, there is not a lot of actual hockey stuff going on these days.

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:56 AM ET
I cant..... Given this PC sensitive sally era we live in now in 2018 i would probably be looked at as the worst person ever if i gave any un-sheep like opinion.
- Burkefection



Admittedly, there are a lot of social justice warriors nowadays, but how do you feel about the Osuna deal? Do you think he had to be moved or should the Jays have tried to "rehabilitate' him
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Jul 31 @ 10:56 AM ET
I cant..... Given this PC sensitive sally era we live in now in 2018 i would probably be looked at as the worst person ever if i gave any un-sheep like opinion.
- Burkefection


do it
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jul 31 @ 10:58 AM ET
do it
- plantheparade



Don't listen to Lou, he'll make you shave your sideburns and change your number
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jul 31 @ 11:00 AM ET
In case you haven't noticed, there is not a lot of actual hockey stuff going on these days.
- Aetherial

Ummm...Ceci is asking for 6mil. That's some A+ news.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jul 31 @ 11:00 AM ET
When did hockeybuzz turn into the #Metoo0evidence, baseballbuzz? Dozzer Dozzing off? End this madness. if i wanted to read about baseball i would go to a baseball site, if i wanted to be annoyed by the lack of evidence and sheep filled people on this metoo movement i would go to any boring news site. Enough.
- Burkefection


Hey Greg Zaun posts here?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 31 @ 11:03 AM ET
Ummm...Ceci is asking for 6mil. That's some A+ comedy.
- AdamFrench


agreed
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