oh, no doubt. I'm saying that athletes, for the most part, get thrown into super easy programs.....general arts, psych, etc.

I know the average university degree requires a great deal of work.....I know mine certainly did (Economics...ugh)
- sensarmy_11

It depends. I was satisfied with B's and in my electives I was satisfied with D's. I got a BBA and did very little work.(In third year I skipped the entire first month because my gf lived in Ottawa and my school was in Waterloo). My classmates who were gunning for A's worked their asses off though.

The good thing about studying business is that an effective report isn't supposed to contain a whole bunch of unnecessary words. People who write essays about Shakespeare probably have to spend way more time crafting their bullpoop essays than I would spend preparing a strategic business proposal.

fixed, you forgot one.
- sensarmy_11

Thank you.

once you sign your ELC you are no longer eligible for NCAA. you're a "professional athlete" under contract, you can't go to school.

if he signs his ELC it's either jr or AHL.
- sensarmy_11

Interesting...he's probably best off 1 year in college. There aren't many 18 year old NHL rookies and there really is no reason for the Sens to rush him. They aren't winning this year so pushing his ELC back another year would benefit the team and it would give the player more time to grow and do some gym work.

Apparently they don't do a ton of strength building workouts mid-season because sports science and stuff...he'll play fewer games in college - hit up the WJC...

Will regret not taking zadina. Based on his play he needs a year or two before the Nhl anyway. Ottawa should use that time to become less of a dumpster fire so people actually want to play there

Not shocking to be fair

They actually had a poll on the Team 1200 the other day about his and only 12% of Sens fans who voted, voted to have him with the Sens. Everyone else thought it would be the best for his development to either go back to BU or to the minors for a year.

Duchene will be gone next season.
Stone will be gone within two seasons.
Anderson is old as (frank). In his day he has had AMAZING seasons and average/poopty seasons.
Karlsson will be gone.

I don't know anything about dzingal.

The sens are crap.
- Njuice

Thank you for your amazing insight!

They actually had a poll on the Team 1200 the other day about his and only 12% of Sens fans who voted, voted to have him with the Sens. Everyone else thought it would be the best for his development to either go back to BU or to the minors for a year.
- Maverick1818

Agree.

Once the locker room issues are sorted out the team should be on a better track.

Even without Karlsson this team has been able to win in the past. They will be ok - no cup this year though. There's time to wait on Tkachuk.

Now the owner...that's a whole other story.

please........99% of college athletes don't "earn" their degrees. they spend 85% of their time training or playing, their degrees are just given to them.

I've had lots of friends who've gone to the NCAA for baseball, football and hockey.....they were mostly put into cushy, useless programs, and then given so much leeway in terms of what they needed to do to pass....it was basically, show up last day and write this test, if you spell your name right and don't eat the paper, you get the credit.

they absolutely don't value the degree the same as non-athletes because:

1. they don't need it
2. almost all of them didn't to anything to earn it.
- sensarmy_11

Weird concept, but some people actually go to school to learn and better themselves...not just for that "worthless piece of paper".

The athletes you are referring to are the ones who are dumber than dirt to begin with AND need their college eligibility to improve their draft stock if they want to become pro. If they are not good enough to become pro then they use and are used to strengthen the program. If that athlete isn't good to enough to become pro they are only doing a disservice for themselves since a degree with "cushy" classes still only ends in a job at the car wash.

Brady has already been drafted so getting a meaningless degree doesn't factor in. So he only has three options:

1) Sign a multi-million dollar contract and play right away

or

2) Go to school for a year or two to start school and finish the degree at a later time while assessing Ottawa's situation. Many players have finished their degrees while playing pro.

or

3) Go back to school for 3 years to avoid Ottawa all together.

Thank you for your amazing insight!


- Storman

am I wrong?

Agree.

Once the locker room issues are sorted out the team should be on a better track.

Even without Karlsson this team has been able to win in the past. They will be ok - no cup this year though. There's time to wait on Tkachuk.

Now the owner...that's a whole other story.
- Storman

I'm not even sure there is any locker room stuff going on anymore.

Realistically the issue was between Karlsson's wife and Hoffman's GF (still yet to be actually proven if it was her), and an extension of that would be Hoffman and Karlsson.

Hoffman is now gone. So in theory, the issues in the locker room should be over.

Literally the only drama around this team are...

#1. The owners history of being cheap (which given the $11M per year time 8 years offer he just gave Karlsson, that's kinda out the window).

#2. If Karlsson is going to resign or get traded (last I really heard about it was that he wanted to stay but wants basically the same structured contract as Traverse got, where he gets the bulk of his contract as a protected bonus up front every year).

I'm not even sure there is any locker room stuff going on anymore.

Realistically the issue was between Karlsson's wife and Hoffman's GF (still yet to be actually proven if it was her), and an extension of that would be Hoffman and Karlsson.

Hoffman is now gone. So in theory, the issues in the locker room should be over.

Literally the only drama around this team are...

#1. The owners history of being cheap (which given the $11M per year time 8 years offer he just gave Karlsson, that's kinda out the window).

#2. If Karlsson is going to resign or get traded (last I really heard about it was that he wanted to stay but wants basically the same structured contract as Traverse got, where he gets the bulk of his contract as a protected bonus up front every year).
- Maverick1818

I'm not so sure about the cheapness factor. I know they had an 'internal cap' but I feel like the internal cap wasn't much lower than the actual salary cap. Maybe that has changed since the salary cap has risen so quickly...

I'm making up numbers but let's say a few years back the cap was $70mil and the sens were only willing to spend $67mil that's not really being that cheap.

I'm not even sure there is any locker room stuff going on anymore.

Realistically the issue was between Karlsson's wife and Hoffman's GF (still yet to be actually proven if it was her), and an extension of that would be Hoffman and Karlsson.

Hoffman is now gone. So in theory, the issues in the locker room should be over.

Literally the only drama around this team are...

#1. The owners history of being cheap (which given the $11M per year time 8 years offer he just gave Karlsson, that's kinda out the window).

#2. If Karlsson is going to resign or get traded (last I really heard about it was that he wanted to stay but wants basically the same structured contract as Traverse got, where he gets the bulk of his contract as a protected bonus up front every year).
- Maverick1818

If the issue is resolved, expect a Karlsson extension any day now.

Will regret not taking zadina. Based on his play he needs a year or two before the Nhl anyway. Ottawa should use that time to become less of a dumpster fire so people actually want to play there
- Tfaehner

Zadina.

am I wrong?
- Njuice

Who knows?

But most likely yes.

If the issue is resolved, expect a Karlsson extension any day now.
- Glak18

Well, I mean let's look at it from a team perspective. What else could they have done?

They got rid of Hoffman, took a huge hit in talent to get him gone, just to make Karlsson happy and they did it without any proof that it was even Hoffman's GF who actually did it.

Then they offered Karlsson a huge contract.... Same as Doughty.

Reportedly when Karlsson wanted more of a JT structured contract. They are apparently work on that.

I never like to give EM or PD credit because I don't their either one of them are good at their jobs. But they are doing everything they can.

Zadina.
- YzermanTheMan

One dimensional. Tkachuk will kick his *ss.

One dimensional. Tkachuk will kick his *ss.
- Storman

One dimensional?

Sounds good to me, good luck to him in Uni
- DutchSenators

In the states we like to call it college. School is also acceptable

Stay in college as long as possible. Ottawa is a hot mess right now!

Well, I mean let's look at it from a team perspective. What else could they have done?

They got rid of Hoffman, took a huge hit in talent to get him gone, just to make Karlsson happy and they did it without any proof that it was even Hoffman's GF who actually did it.

Then they offered Karlsson a huge contract.... Same as Doughty.

Reportedly when Karlsson wanted more of a JT structured contract. They are apparently work on that.

I never like to give EM or PD credit because I don't their either one of them are good at their jobs. But they are doing everything they can.
- Maverick1818

Don't think it was just a Hoffman/Karlsson thing. It could only have affected the whole room. Very divisive stuff when it gets personal like that. Doesn't matter who is telling the truth or not - everyone sees it way they want. Players are no different.

Management has said who they think the culprit is. Should be end of story. Thats up to the guys in the room.

One dimensional?
- YzermanTheMan

One dimensional.

One dimensional.
- Storman

Have... you ever seen him play? Or even read the scouting reports. He’s anything but one dimensional.

Have... you ever seen him play? Or even read the scouting reports. He’s anything but one dimensional.
- YzermanTheMan

i watched him all year in Halifax.

the only real knock i see in his game, that might be problematic in the NHL, is his tendency to create offense by cutting across the middle. he does it ALL THE TIME, and he can get away with it in jr because he's usually the best player on the ice......hopefully they can get him to give it a rest at the NHL level cuz i could see him getting obliterated.

hard to judge his defense in the Q....nobody plays defense in the Q.

i watched him all year in Halifax.

the only real knock i see in his game, that might be problematic in the NHL, is his tendency to create offense by cutting across the middle. he does it ALL THE TIME, and he can get away with it in jr because he's usually the best player on the ice......hopefully they can get him to give it a rest at the NHL level cuz i could see him getting obliterated.

hard to judge his defense in the Q....nobody plays defense in the Q.
- sensarmy_11

I can see that. But just to call him one dimensional is absurd.