I am a huge ROR supporter, but those two had their chance and they could barely be competitive. If we had kept them, the only additions and would be Sheary and Dahlin. With ROR gone, Mittelstadt is given his chance to be a scoring 2C and Berglund can comfortably slide into a checking 3C.

What I'm saying is, those two couldn't prove that they only needed a piece or two. They failed as core pieces. I have my qualms with the ROR return, but Mitts as the long term 2C makes sense
- jcragcrumple

I hate that argument
They had too much crap around them

If Edmonton fails to become a contender,
is that McDavid’s fault?
I know they aren’t on that level,
but still

It’s a team game
And a big portion of our team during their tenure was garbage

We agree
- sbroads24

Tough to blame the sh!tty defense on O’Reilly & Kane

I hate that argument
They had too much crap around them

If Edmonton fails to become a contender,
is that McDavid’s fault?
I know they aren’t on that level,
but still

It’s a team game
And a big portion of our team during their tenure was garbage
- jdfitz77

No, but it is the Lucic’s and Larsson’s fault where Edmonton either paid too much money or too many assets in trades and considered them core players.

It’s the same with Kane and O’Reilly. They moved multiple assets and played them big time minutes, and frankly they weren’t good enough to be kept for 15 mil combined long term ( if we would’ve signed Kane)

Cool. you should take it a step further and separate the children from the parents.
- seedy

Go 5th wave ? I’m in

No, but it is the Lucic’s and Larsson’s fault where Edmonton either paid too much money or too many assets in trades and considered them core players.

It’s the same with Kane and O’Reilly. They moved multiple assets and played them big time minutes, and frankly they weren’t good enough to be kept for 15 mil combined long term ( if we would’ve signed Kane)
- sbroads24

I would’ve paid Connolly 15 mil a season and not thought twice about it

Anyone ever drink kava?

I hate that argument
They had too much crap around them

If Edmonton fails to become a contender,
is that McDavid’s fault?
I know they aren’t on that level,
but still

It’s a team game
And a big portion of our team during their tenure was garbage
- jdfitz77

Lucic is a failed member of their core, as is Larson and Sekera

No, but it is the Lucic’s and Larsson’s fault where Edmonton either paid too much money or too many assets in trades and considered them core players.

It’s the same with Kane and O’Reilly. They moved multiple assets and played them big time minutes, and frankly they weren’t good enough to be kept for 15 mil combined long term ( if we would’ve signed Kane)
- sbroads24

When you have Eichel, Reinhart, Okposo, Kane, and RoR in your top 6, and your top 6 is among the least productive 5v5 groups in the league, they deserve criticism. Whether it's individual, or as a group, it was bad. Blaming the defense, goaltending, or bottom 6 is a cop out.

No, but it is the Lucic’s and Larsson’s fault where Edmonton either paid too much money or too many assets in trades and considered them core players.

It’s the same with Kane and O’Reilly. They moved multiple assets and played them big time minutes, and frankly they weren’t good enough to be kept for 15 mil combined long term ( if we would’ve signed Kane)
- sbroads24

Idk...
i hear ya, bit it depends you structure the rest of the team around them
In both situations imo

I will do it in 10 ..

Doing something important
- gerbe75pts

Been over an hour.

Go 5th wave ? I’m in
- gerbe75pts

It's been 3 hours and 40 minutes...

Sam’s goals all come from around the net already
- sbroads24

Exactly.
And exactly what will disapear when avvteam beats him physically.

Toronto was bounced because Andersen couldn’t stop a beach ball and the best line in the NHL totally owned Toronto defensively and offensively. Total 200 foot effort. What happened when Boston played Tampa ? Whose Tampa’s enforcer ? Washington beat Tampa becuase Trotz defensive play stifled their offense in games 6 and 7. Not because they were scared of the physicality of one player.
- Pegullaville

It is clear you either didn't watch, or forgot about how Tampa playedin the playoffs...team tough against boston worked.
Washington absolutely beat the pulp out of Tampa, and caused Kucherov andd s
Stamkos to shy away from the boards thereby causing a loss of possession.
Rewatch the games...as obvious as hell.
It is still talked about today...in facg I read another article, on The Athletic that brought this point up again.

When you have Eichel, Reinhart, Okposo, Kane, and RoR in your top 6, and your top 6 is among the least productive 5v5 groups in the league, they deserve criticism. Whether it's individual, or as a group, it was bad. Blaming the defense, goaltending, or bottom 6 is a cop out.
- Lunaion

No one is saying they don’t deserve criticism
They also had pretty much nothing around them
How many other players the last couple years do u still want here in 2 or 3 years?

Maybe a couple at most?

It's been 3 hours and 40 minutes...
- Wetbandit1

Amazing how he ghosts when he gets called out on his bullsh!t.
But hey, he posted a picture the janitor at KeyBank Center could have posted on twatter, so he must be legit.

It is clear you either didn't watch, or forgot about how Tampa playedin the playoffs...team tough against boston worked.
Washington absolutely beat the pulp out of Tampa, and caused Kucherov andd s
Stamkos to shy away from the boards thereby causing a loss of possession.
Rewatch the games...as obvious as hell.
It is still talked about today...in facg I read another article, on The Athletic that brought this point up again.
- IonSabres

I think the physical play is an age thing.

Older guys realize that its neccessary. And I do not mean goons. Hitting hard and intimidating the opponent. Physical playoff hockey.

Some of the younger guys have blinders on. All they see is point production, 5 x 5 ect.

Either could be right.

Not seeing the "intangibles " like tom Wilson's toughness and continuing to point out his 35 points proves it.

Been over an hour.
- seedy

Been busy

When you have Eichel, Reinhart, Okposo, Kane, and RoR in your top 6, and your top 6 is among the least productive 5v5 groups in the league, they deserve criticism. Whether it's individual, or as a group, it was bad. Blaming the defense, goaltending, or bottom 6 is a cop out.
- Lunaion

Eichel injured and paired with scrubs
Reinhart at center and taking the 1st 1/2 season off
Okposo coming off a brain injury and scoreless thru 10
Kane playing hot with eichel, then nothing before the deadline
Ror consistent, but nothing 5 x 5

Not making excuses, but they all had warts

The d sucked bad
Lehner couldn't stop a beach ball

Housley couldn't motivate messier

Amazing how he ghosts when he gets called out on his bullsh!t.
But hey, he posted a picture the janitor at KeyBank Center could have posted on twatter, so he must be legit.
- seedy

Haha 😆

Yep you got me

It's been 3 hours and 40 minutes...
- Wetbandit1

I️ invite you to come workout with me when im back in Buffalo. If you don’t throw up I’ll buy you season tickets for the year. https://t.co/cHx4U0Jk5R

— Zach Bogosian (@BogosianZach) July 28, 2018

And zero people do this

No one is saying they don’t deserve criticism
They also had pretty much nothing around them
How many other players the last couple years do u still want here in 2 or 3 years?

Maybe a couple at most?
- jdfitz77

The idea that they had nothing around them is very idea I'm against. The second line regularly featured RoR, Kane, Okposo, and Sam, yet produced at a very poor rate. It was a glaring problem for 2 years, arguably their biggest problem.

I️ invite you to come workout with me when im back in Buffalo. If you don’t throw up I’ll buy you season tickets for the year. https://t.co/cHx4U0Jk5R

— Zach Bogosian (@BogosianZach) July 28, 2018

And zero people do this
- gerbe75pts

Thank you, and false, most people do it.

Eichel injured and paired with scrubs
Reinhart at center and taking the 1st 1/2 season off
Okposo coming off a brain injury and scoreless thru 10
Kane playing hot with eichel, then nothing before the deadline
Ror consistent, but nothing 5 x 5

Not making excuses, but they all had warts

The d sucked bad
Lehner couldn't stop a beach ball

Housley couldn't motivate messier
- Boss34

Sam's first half distracted everyone from how bad RoR's first half was.

Sam's first half distracted everyone from how bad RoR's first half was.
- Lunaion

Nice, everyone was too busy looking at the other failure

Sam was brutal

What were rors 1st half vs. Second half points

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Buffalo should be all over this
- Stripes77

Damn everyone does it