Ok, now it makes sense. Don't see it happening though. I think Panarin is looking forward to being a UFA and I wouldn't want to have to massively overpay him to extend with us. I'd rather have Jake at 8.25 per than Panarin at 10.5 or so which is what it would likely take to get him to sign an extension.
- BiggE

Agree. If he would resign at 9 though I would be in.

Looking into next year there is not much in the way of UFA defenders. Trouba would still be my first choice as I think you then get another top end defender to go with Provorov at the right age for this team.

But won't they also have another new jersey for the outdoor game this year? So probably the reason they still are suing the stadium series jersey as they already had to work on another jersey.

Just a thought.
- J35Bacher

Very true, but I think it’s not likely it will be black since last years was. I would love them to go for an old school look for this stadium series. Actually I dont, Idk if I have room for another jersey to buy lol.

Very true, but I think it’s not likely it will be black since last years was. I would love them to go for an old school look for this stadium series. Actually I dont, Idk if I have room for another jersey to buy lol.
- arichardson22

Maybe they could go back to the long pants look for this years Stadium Series...

I personally believe O'Brien will closely follow the path of Mark Jankowski of Calgary, probably more 3-5 years away then 1-2. Expect him to be called a bust because Flyer fans won't see him for a while.
- Glak18

I agree. He seems to have a ton of upside but perhaps a longer timeline. I would have gone D, but of course Hextall has more than earned the benefit of doubt so we'll see.

I think Hextall philosophy also takes into account the timeline to develop the positions. He first built a strong defensive core, which is gaining experience in the rebuilding years. The goalie, also needs luck to find and time to develop. The Centers/forwards are the last to draft because of the short development timing. The key is to have all three positions where you want them developmentally at the same time. It seems like they are getting close, but Simmonds might not fit the timeline. I see him being traded for a high pick to continue the youth movement... Maybe not this year, but back fill Simmonds spot (3W) with someone like Ratcliffe.

- leon neon

I don't think that is the case. The Flyers especially in the first round draft BPA not by position. I agree they have a philosophy of being strong up the middle but they drafted according to who is the best player by all accounts.

Agree. If he would resign at 9 though I would be in.

Looking into next year there is not much in the way of UFA defenders. Trouba would still be my first choice as I think you then get another top end defender to go with Provorov at the right age for this team.
- J35Bacher

Trouba is a guy I would love to have. He would really fill a need. I know many love Sanheim and I like him a lot too, but I'd move him in a second for Trouba. Trouba is only 2 years older and is a legit top pair shutdown guy. Sanheim may or may not ever be a top pair guy, but as long as you have Ghost to qb the top powerplay and Provorov for the 2nd unit, he's not a critical guy that you have to keep.

Maybe they could go back to the long pants look for this years Stadium Series...
- Glak18

I don't think that is the case. The Flyers especially in the first round draft BPA not by position. I agree they have a philosophy of being strong up the middle but they drafted according to who is the best player by all accounts.
- MJL

Yes and no. If one player is clearly better than yes, they will go BPA, but if they are very closely ranked on their list, I think they would go D or C before taking a winger. I honestly think their taking Farabee at 14 shows just how much they really like the kid and how high he was on their list.

Maybe they could go back to the long pants look for this years Stadium Series...
- Glak18

lol but I liked the Cooperalls. (minority opinion)

Trouba is a guy I would love to have. He would really fill a need. I know many love Sanheim and I like him a lot too, but I'd move him in a second for Trouba. Trouba is only 2 years older and is a legit top pair shutdown guy. Sanheim may or may not ever be a top pair guy, but as long as you have Ghost to qb the top powerplay and Provorov for the 2nd unit, he's not a critical guy that you have to keep.
- BiggE

yup

Yes and no. If one player is clearly better than yes, they will go BPA, but if they are very closely ranked on their list, I think they would go D or C before taking a winger. I honestly think their taking Farabee at 14 shows just how much they really like the kid and how high he was on their list.
- BiggE

I agree but my point was they didn't go into the draft saying this draft we're going to take defenseman, next draft centers, etc.

Trouba is a guy I would love to have. He would really fill a need. I know many love Sanheim and I like him a lot too, but I'd move him in a second for Trouba. Trouba is only 2 years older and is a legit top pair shutdown guy. Sanheim may or may not ever be a top pair guy, but as long as you have Ghost to qb the top powerplay and Provorov for the 2nd unit, he's not a critical guy that you have to keep.
- BiggE

I'd rather bank on Sanheim's two way potential and a guy who could bring more in 5 on 5 play in terms of skating and moving the puck and filling holes on the rush. Sanheim should also become a solid defender.

If I was Simmonds, I wouldn't sign anything less than a 5 year deal. I might be willing to take a little less in AAV. I'm not Simmonds obviously so we'll see.
- MJL

I wouldnt blame Simmonds, he shouldn't have to take a hometown discount, he did that already. I do think he is a high character guy, I could see him taking a little discount to finish in Philly, plus the Flyers window is about to open.

I dont mind 4-5 years, it feels like the GM's dont really care about year 4-5, I guess with the cap going up, trade options etc there is a way to make it make sense.

A lot depends on how well Simmonds plays and how well the Flyers are doing.

If the Flyers are a fringe team at the deadline, a good offer comes up and they don't have a deal in place, you have to believe Simmonds will be dealt.

I wouldnt blame Simmonds, he shouldn't have to take a hometown discount, he did that already. I do think he is a high character guy, I could see him taking a little discount to finish in Philly, plus the Flyers window is about to open.

I dont mind 4-5 years, it feels like the GM's dont really care about year 4-5, I guess with the cap going up, trade options etc there is a way to make it make sense.

A lot depends on how well Simmonds plays and how well the Flyers are doing.

If the Flyers are a fringe team at the deadline, a good offer comes up and they don't have a deal in place, you have to believe Simmonds will be dealt.
- wcorvette

I know most people are concerned with Simmonds term if he re-signs, but I am more concerned with whether there is a NTC or NMC.

I'd rather bank on Sanheim's two way potential and a guy who could bring more in 5 on 5 play in terms of skating and moving the puck and filling holes on the rush. Sanheim should also become a solid defender.
- MJL

I'd rather have Provorov/Trouba out there killing penalties and locking down leads late in games than Provorov/AMac or Provorov/Gudas.

I know most people are concerned with Simmonds term if he re-signs, but I am more concerned with whether there is a NTC or NMC.
- Glak18

I think that would be a non-starter for Hextall. He's not going to give Simmonds anything more than perhaps a very limited NTC.

I think that would be a non-starter for Hextall. He's not going to give Simmonds anything more than perhaps a very limited NTC.
- BiggE

If I'm Hextall, there is no way I back myself in a corner while giving 4+ years term.

I know most people are concerned with Simmonds term if he re-signs, but I am more concerned with whether there is a NTC or NMC.
- Glak18

I don't think that's a big deal either.

I'd rather have Provorov/Trouba out there killing penalties and locking down leads late in games than Provorov/AMac or Provorov/Gudas.
- BiggE

Agree about that but I think Sanheim has the potential to be better than Trouba.

Agree about that but I think Sanheim has the potential to be better than Trouba.
- MJL

I hear you, but right now, when it comes to D, I'd rather have the sure thing who is only 24 than the potential who is 22.

Reposting...

Did anyone else see that article on The Score this morning calling Giroux the biggest potential fantasy bust for next season?
I hope the doubters avoid him in the draft then I can face wash them with his point totals later!
Why the disrespect of Giroux?
- NC Flyers Fan

Agree about that but I think Sanheim has the potential to be better than Trouba.
- MJL

The good news is we get to see if that can happen this year, Sanheim has to make the club full-time.

Reposting...

Did anyone else see that article on The Score this morning calling Giroux the biggest potential fantasy bust for next season?
I hope the doubters avoid him in the draft then I can face wash them with his point totals later!
Why the disrespect of Giroux?

- NC Flyers Fan

Giroux just had a career year with his first 100 point season, can he do it again sure, but the chances are not in his favor. Most likely his point totals will decrease, due to injury or some other reason. Doesn't mean he will play bad, just unlikely.

I wouldnt blame Simmonds, he shouldn't have to take a hometown discount, he did that already. I do think he is a high character guy, I could see him taking a little discount to finish in Philly, plus the Flyers window is about to open.

I dont mind 4-5 years, it feels like the GM's dont really care about year 4-5, I guess with the cap going up, trade options etc there is a way to make it make sense.

A lot depends on how well Simmonds plays and how well the Flyers are doing.

If the Flyers are a fringe team at the deadline, a good offer comes up and they don't have a deal in place, you have to believe Simmonds will be dealt.
- wcorvette

As much as I love Simmonds, I'm not sure I would resign him. I'd be especially wary for any term longer than 3 years. Though I'd prefer a little more depth at RW, they still have options to back fill him. We have enough talent on the roster to field two strong PP's, even without Simmonds.

I worry about tying that much money up in four forwards - G, Jake, JVR and Wayne - that would be north of 33 towards the end of their contracts, especially with a lot of young players to lock up.

I know most people are concerned with Simmonds term if he re-signs, but I am more concerned with whether there is a NTC or NMC.
- Glak18

I completely agree. If there is the option to sign him and potentially trade him 1 or 2 years out when some of the prospects are ready, then I'm fine with it. Otherwise I would have to think very hard about it, and would lean towards passing.