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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 27 @ 8:54 PM ET
its not a great sign when one of your big wins as a GM in the trade department is bust prospect/mid pick for the types of guys who don't matter in the NHL
- Lindenis#1


You aren't even standing on the edge of a 100 story building, you have already started to make your way down. A total free fall. I hope you find happiness in something else. This team obviously isn't it.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 27 @ 8:57 PM ET

You aren't even standing on the edge of a 100 story building, you have already started to make your way down. A total free fall. I hope you find happiness in something else. This team obviously isn't it.

- manvanfan

haha i bet he is a sto_0pid laffs fan
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 27 @ 8:58 PM ET
its not a great sign when one of your big wins as a GM in the trade department is bust prospect/mid pick for the types of guys who don't matter in the NHL
- Lindenis#1


A worse sign is big trades that flop not the ones we are involved in. Duchene
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 27 @ 9:00 PM ET
Gaunce should reinvent himself. He is what he is offensively at this point so he should really embrace the defensive side of the game. If he could mix in a couple fights and some scrums he could really build his brand. He skates well enough to play in the league and he is a smart player but he is just so damn bland.

Edit. Gaunce would have to look no further than coach Green as a great example of a player that reinvented himself part way through his career. #mentor

- CanuckDon


I'm not sure its reinventing if that's where he is already... embracing the defensive side of it. He's already a impressive penalty killer and a excellent forechecker. Its more like continuing to develop his strengths.

Vantel and I have debated and I really don't know why a player that fits a roll like the 4rth line needs to get 15 goals to prove himself or be waived.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 27 @ 9:02 PM ET
I want more heated debate on fringe NHLers please.

Any topic will do as long as it’s not about TL.

- bloatedmosquito


I helped build TL's house on White Ave in Kits. I was a fringe carpenter.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:03 PM ET
I'm not sure its reinventing if that's where he is already... embracing the defensive side of it. He's already a impressive penalty killer and a excellent forechecker. Its more like continuing to develop his strengths.

Vantel and I have debated and I really don't know why a player that fits a roll like the 4rth line needs to get 15 goals to prove himself or be waived.

- boonerbuck

Well I mentioned he needs to drop the mitts once in awhile. Just play with an edge. He is too docile
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:08 PM ET
You don't think "they did well" drafting Boeser at 23rd? What does this kid have to do to get a break from you? Not exciting... doesnt get included in your list of legitimate NHLers picked by Benning. Isnt considered a good draft year with him being a late 1st home run in it. All season long you talked about the wall he was going to hit even though research shows that the college wall is a myth.... he hit a gate but with 5 weeks left...no wall yet... give the kid a break.
- boonerbuck

Lefty's draft standards are just absurd. One more second round pick gets you?
Second rounds picks with 100+ points in the NHL
2014- 0
2013- 0
2012- 1
2011- 6
2010- 5
2009- 7
2008- 6
2007- 4
2006- 7

1/4 at best.

Past the first round it truly isn't a waste to get a player that can put up 30 points a season in the NHL for a 2nd round pick.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 27 @ 9:10 PM ET
Well I mentioned he needs to drop the mitts once in awhile. Just play with an edge. He is too docile
- CanuckDon


Don't hold your breath. Passive players will be passive players and dropping the mitts once in a while and embarrassing yourself does little to prove anything. I'd rather see him play the boards harder and I'd be happy with his level of physicality then. That's all that's missing because he does play strong in puck battles and wins more often than not... just needs to bang a little more.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:11 PM ET



OFFICIAL: Washington resigns Tom Wilson to a 6 year contract worth $5.27 million a year




OUCH.
Washington what are you doing
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:11 PM ET
OFFICIAL: Washington resigns Tom Wilson to a 6 year contract worth $5.27 million a year




OUCH.
Washington what are you doing

- classic321

You aren't serious are you?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
Tom Wilson 6 yrs @5.17
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jul 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
Sounds like female dogford is reporting that Montreal has interest in Erickson.

https://thehockeywriters..../nhl-rumors-july-27-2018/
I would claim Bergevin as the best GM in the league if he did this for us.😁
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jul 27 @ 9:14 PM ET
You aren't serious are you?
- manvanfan

classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:15 PM ET
You aren't serious are you?
- manvanfan




The entire contract is based off of his playoffs

which is risky as HELL
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:16 PM ET
Tom Wilson 6 yrs @5.17
- VANTEL

He was serious.

Brandon Sutter is not the only player now to never have scored more then 40 points and have a contract over 4 million. He's now making 800,000 more then Sutter for the next 6 years.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 27 @ 9:20 PM ET
Lefty's draft standards are just absurd. One more second round pick gets you?
Second rounds picks with 100+ points in the NHL
2014- 0
2013- 0
2012- 1
2011- 6
2010- 5
2009- 7
2008- 6
2007- 4
2006- 7

1/4 at best.

Past the first round it truly isn't a waste to get a player that can put up 30 points a season in the NHL for a 2nd round pick.

- manvanfan


I agree with "more picks is better" for sure. No one can disagree with the obvious. His position on what we missed out on is pretty funny though... the picks we make are constantly downplayed and the picks we should have made are obviously NHL players.


How far along people think this team should be in a rebuild with the Sedins in the line up the whole time is laughable and very unreasonable especially from posters on here who couldn't imagine letting the Sedins go 6 years ago. Then they want a full scale tear down and fast rebuild with the Sedins playing out their contract(some wanted a extension this summer). Bonkers... heads up their asses all the way.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:21 PM ET



I can't believe the negotiating power a Stanley Cup ring brings you.

Beagle
Wilson
Carlsson

Reminds me of the LA kings just giving contracts to Gaborik and Brown.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
I'm not sure its reinventing if that's where he is already... embracing the defensive side of it. He's already a impressive penalty killer and a excellent forechecker. Its more like continuing to develop his strengths.

Vantel and I have debated and I really don't know why a player that fits a roll like the 4rth line needs to get 15 goals to prove himself or be waived.

- boonerbuck


Gaunce is fine for a bottom team but the plan is to get better. He doesn't bring what other typical 4 th liners bring such as toughness ,tenacity , big hits, checking , so if he is not bringing that then he needs to score points.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jul 27 @ 9:30 PM ET
Gaunce is fine for a bottom team but the plan is to get better. He doesn't bring what other typical 4 th liners bring such as toughness ,tenacity , big hits, checking , so if he is not bringing that then he needs to score points.
- VANTEL


Weird that defensive play isnt even on your radar for a 4rth liner? Just physical and or offense.


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 9:33 PM ET
Weird that defensive play isnt even on your radar for a 4rth liner? Just physical and or offense.
- boonerbuck



90 % of forwards can play D. You need more than that
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
Don't hold your breath. Passive players will be passive players and dropping the mitts once in a while and embarrassing yourself does little to prove anything. I'd rather see him play the boards harder and I'd be happy with his level of physicality then. That's all that's missing because he does play strong in puck battles and wins more often than not... just needs to bang a little more.
- boonerbuck

His hits are there but they are far too passive. He can learn to fight. That’s a crock of sh!t. Hell, even Horvat had a fight last year. He doesnt have to become a tough guy but he can engage in the odd scrum and drop the gloves once or twice per year. He has the size for it he just needs to harden up a bit. As I said earlier, no one knows more about that transformation than Travis green.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 27 @ 9:54 PM ET
90 % of forwards can play D. You need more than that
- VANTEL

Speed and skill and stuff
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 27 @ 9:54 PM ET
His hits are there but they are far too passive. He can learn to fight. That’s a crock of sh!t. Hell, even Horvat had a fight last year. He doesnt have to become a tough guy but he can engage in the odd scrum and drop the gloves once or twice per year. He has the size for it he just needs to harden up a bit. As I said earlier, no one knows more about that transformation than Travis green.
- CanuckDon



Travis is growing on me
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 27 @ 9:54 PM ET
90 % of forwards can play D. You need more than that
- VANTEL

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jul 27 @ 10:01 PM ET
Anybody know where/who will be streaming the Summer showcase games?
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