Despite the press conference being an obvious damage control attempt I thought their were some interesting comments from both Benning and Green.

Specifically Benning went all in and made it clear he will waive or trade vets. This message has been inferred before but never been this strongly stated IMO. I tend to believe this means, they are already penciling in some young players.

When asked how the offence was going to be replaced, Liepsic and Goldobin were specifically mentioned which also makes me think they are not going to be willing to lose either on waivers.

Finally it was pointed out that there were 14 forwards and the question was asked if moves were going to be made. Green's ignored the question and made it clear he sees many more than 14 forwards who will be vying for those 12-13 spots.


I still think Benning is an idiot, that Linden is a legend but didn't belong in mgmt and that FA is a twat but can appreciate he never has hesitated to spend money on this team. I have hope that this year's camp will be a very competitive environment where the best 23 players end up on the team.
- belcherbd

When you take a guy in the third round that you could have had in the fourth round, or fifth, or sixth... they had guys on their board that no other team would have taken, why not get two of them?

I've added your original quote....This is bs. Madden was ranked 69th in Button's final list while Mackenzie had him at 62. The canucks selected him at 68. No other team had Madden on their boards? How did Mackenzie rank him then? You take your player and don't risk trading down unless it's an off the board pick. They may have had Madden at 40 for all we know! That;s some lousy armchair drafting Vintey
- CanuckDon

Now you are making up BS. I never said Madden, never said he wasn’t on other teams list. The NHL central scouting had Madden at 39, and the Canucks Army list had him in the 90’s. Lots of variation there. Jake Wise was ranked much higher, but the Canucks passed on him in favor of Madden. Could the Canucks have gotten Madden in the 4th round? Maybe, probably. When they took Utunen at 130 literally everyone everywhere said who? So trading the third for a 4th and a 5th could have potentially netted them the same two players they picked anyway, and a third long shot (which the other two are). Maybe they don’t get Madden in the 4th, but would have really been that mad if a player you knew nothing about before the draft, wasn’t picked by the Canucks and you still knew nothing about him?

Oh I agree things could have been done differently...however with this prospect mix I think we'll be in better shape than people realise and maybe a bit sooner.

All GM's make bonehead moves and waste assets...part of the job Benning is no different than a lot of others.
I just think he'll be gone in 1-3 years and there will be some massive benefits from what he has done.
- LordHumungous

It was fun to hear Benning say that the scoring will come from players like Goldobin & Leipsic.

It was fun to hear Benning say that the scoring will come from players like Goldobin & Leipsic.
- Marwood

I can’t see either of those guys making the team.

He would have to be Wade Redden bad to be placed on waivers. Benning would look bad (to the owner), the Canucks would look bad (to potential UFA’s). I guess they could just blame it on Linden...
- 1970vintage

Seriously how much more could they hurt public opinion. The media is having a field day and the lemmings are buying in big time

Seriously how much more could they hurt public opinion. The media is having a field day and the lemmings are buying in big time
- VANTEL

I didn’t say anything about public opinion. I said the GM would look bad to the owner (paying a guy $6m to play in the AHL for 4 more years), and the team would look bad to potential players, who do not want to play in the AHL, even if they are being paid $6m.

Now you are making up BS. I never said Madden, never said he wasn’t on other teams list. The NHL central scouting had Madden at 39, and the Canucks Army list had him in the 90’s. Lots of variation there. Jake Wise was ranked much higher, but the Canucks passed on him in favor of Madden. Could the Canucks have gotten Madden in the 4th round? Maybe, probably. When they took Utunen at 130 literally everyone everywhere said who? So trading the third for a 4th and a 5th could have potentially netted them the same two players they picked anyway, and a third long shot (which the other two are). Maybe they don’t get Madden in the 4th, but would have really been that mad if a player you knew nothing about before the draft, wasn’t picked by the Canucks and you still knew nothing about him?
- 1970vintage

Wtf? You literally specifically referenced our third round pick so of course I assumed you were talking about Madden? You are going in circles instead of admitting you were wrong about Maddens ranking. Mackenzie’s list is much more reliable. Real NHL scouts versus a bunch of college kids that pretend they know hockey. Would I have been mad? No, I had no idea who Madden was. But Brackett did and he is a big believer in the kid so he should make the pick!

It was fun to hear Benning say that the scoring will come from players like Goldobin & Leipsic.
- Marwood

Two total plugs! Hope they aren’t on the team

Apparently Linden wanted to take on Bad Contracts in exchange for Draft picks and prospects akin to what the Coyotes have done and what the Leafs did in the early stages of their rebuild

Aquilini didn't want to throw his real life $$ at players who weren't going to produce so, Bennings vision was drafting youth and signing/playing FA's like Beagle and Roussel

Lindens way was better long term as it would get the team more assets but Aquilini didn't want to spend his money on doing it

Waiving low cost guys, retaining hundreds of thousands not millions. That's not the way TL wanted to do it. That's not what the quicker rebuilding teams did. Aquaman is a decent owner but he won't bleed money to speed up the rebuild.
- Pres.cup

Perhaps, but until I hear it from Scooby, it's pure speculation...

Benning also suggested they were looking to do the same. Problem is, they guys who teams were looking to offload mostly have NTC, and Vancouver isn’t high on their wish list right now.
- 1970vintage

True, but Linden got mad and said fine, you don't want to spend cash for picks, I'm out of here. Benning said fine, can I be president as well?

Two total plugs! Hope they aren’t on the team
- CanuckDon

Lipstick showed last year that if his TOI improves he'll get 20.

Goldy jury still out.

Perhaps, but until I hear it from Scooby, it's pure speculation...
- belcherbd

Lol, skip scooby, go straight to the barber on 4th street.
Connect the dots, our new 4 year 4rth line of 40 year olds was all FA.
TL wanted cap dumps and kids playing sp he could argue draft picks for the 50th.

Lipstick showed last year that if his TOI improves he'll get 20.

Goldy jury still out.
- LordHumungous

Is this a humongous backed guarantee?

I'll bet you a year long avatar that, that, won't happen.

Is this a humongous backed guarantee?

I'll bet you a year long avatar that, that, won't happen.
- Pres.cup

lol knew that would get someones attention.

Lipstick 3 goals in 14 games for the Nucks so he would be on pace for:

Yeaeeeaaah...I don't do avatar bets

I can’t see either of those guys making the team.
- 1970vintage

are Goldobin & Leipsic waiver exempt? oh feck, does anyone want our scraps?

Can you send one of the new ufa signings to Utica? nobody will claim them, we overpaid left and right.

I see some competition but see it coming down to the vets being given slack for a non standout training camp. how much can a young player wow to get a spot over an established player?

lol knew that would get someones attention.

Lipstick 3 goals in 14 games for the Nucks so he would be on pace for:

Yeaeeeaaah...I don't do avatar bets


- LordHumungous

are Goldobin & Leipsic waiver exempt? oh feck, does anyone want our scraps?

Can you send one of the new ufa signings to Utica? nobody will claim them, we overpaid left and right.

I see some competition but see it coming down to the vets being given slack for a non standout training camp. how much can a young player wow to get a spot over an established player?
- hillbillydeluxe

Why in the (frank) would we send a guy we signed a month ago to Utica? Did everyone start taking bath salts as soon Linden was fired?

Why in the (frank) would we send a guy we signed a month ago to Utica? Did everyone start taking bath salts as soon Linden was fired?
- CanuckDon

just responding to what JB is saying about making room for rookies who make the club out of camp.

I like the idea of competition at camp, but want to see prospects spend a little time in Utica to start.

With that being said, I wonder where Dahlen is at in his development? what would he bring to the lineup vs Goldobin?

fecking asset management.

just responding to what JB is saying about making room for rookies who make the club out of camp.

I like the idea of competition at camp, but want to see prospects spend a little time in Utica to start.

With that being said, I wonder where Dahlen is at in his development? what would he bring to the lineup vs Goldobin?

fecking asset management.
- hillbillydeluxe

I wouldn’t be surprised if they waive Gagner and make room for Goldobin. I don’t think waivers should be a concern as A) Schaller is still injured and B) it’s pretty uncommon for a team to want a bottom feeders scraps. I suspect Gaunce is exposed but who cares

(frank)ing Nonis.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they waive Gagner and make room for Goldobin. I don’t think waivers should be a concern as A) Schaller is still injured and B) it’s pretty uncommon for a team to want a bottom feeders scraps. I suspect Gaunce is exposed but who cares
- CanuckDon

I forgot about him... furthest away from my mind.

are Goldobin & Leipsic waiver exempt? oh feck, does anyone want our scraps?

Can you send one of the new ufa signings to Utica? nobody will claim them, we overpaid left and right.

I see some competition but see it coming down to the vets being given slack for a non standout training camp. how much can a young player wow to get a spot over an established player?
- hillbillydeluxe

I think Granlund and Gaunce are the guys who will lose a job to Leipsic and/or Goldobin. Gagner is in with Sutter and Eriksson as part of the core group of veterans (Beags and Rous)

Wtf? You literally specifically referenced our third round pick so of course I assumed you were talking about Madden? You are going in circles instead of admitting you were wrong about Maddens ranking. Mackenzie’s list is much more reliable. Real NHL scouts versus a bunch of college kids that pretend they know hockey. Would I have been mad? No, I had no idea who Madden was. But Brackett did and he is a big believer in the kid so he should make the pick!
- CanuckDon

No, I referenced the 3rd round pick AND I suggested they had guys on their list that other teams didn’t. I am of the opinion that they could have selected Madden in the 4th round, even though Bob had him ranked at 69. There would certainly be a risk of not getting him, but he’s a long shot to ever make it to the NHL anyway, so if they picked two other guys who are long shots I feel that puts them in a better position.

I think Granlund and Gaunce are the guys who will lose a job to Leipsic and/or Goldobin. Gagner is in with Sutter and Eriksson as part of the core group of veterans (Beags and Rous)
- 1970vintage

I don't think either would be claimed.

with opportunity, I'm still not sure there would be much of a difference in production between Goldobin and Granlund. so many of these guys need to be with good players in order to show well.