It could be because you're crazy
- bulet13

Crazy nutter is the best nutter. Or so they say.

chutney: a spicy condiment made of fruits or vegetables with vinegar, spices, and sugar, originating in India
- Scoob

Sounds like a 200ft condiment to me.

Crazy nutter is the best nutter. Or so they say.
- hereticpride

Imagine a drunk nutter. I couldn't take it.

chutney: a spicy condiment made of fruits or vegetables with vinegar, spices, and sugar, originating in India
- Scoob

Chutley: a world (frank)ing champion.

It could be because you're crazy
- bulet13

You may be right. I may be crazy.

But I just may be the lunatic you're lookin' for.

You may be right. I may be crazy.

But I just may be the lunatic you're lookin' for.
- flyer_nutter

Let's take this chat to Omegle

chutney: a spicy condiment made of fruits or vegetables with vinegar, spices, and sugar, originating in India
- Scoob

Isn't that a Spanish slang word?

So if Oskar Lindblom started the year with the Flyers, scored 30 goals and had 75 points, but the Flyers scored 200 goals for the year then Lindblom replaces the production of Schenn?

I am not going to argue what if statements, the fact is the team scored more without him. Now if the Flyers scored less, you might have a valid point, but they didn't.

How about if the Flyers score 1 less goal than last year, does that mean they never replaced Matt Read?
- Glak18

Comparing the offensive output of the team from last season to the previous season is a badly flawed way of looking at it.

After we get past Giroux, Voracek, Konecny and Simmonds, the next highest point producer was Raffl who had 13 goals and 9 assists. Weal had 8 goals and 13 assists. Dale Weise had 4 goals and 4 assists. Lehtera produced 3 goals and 5 assists in 62 games. Lindblom who wasn't called up until later had 2 goals and 4 assists in 23 games. Whatever combination of players you want to use who took the ice time that Schenn would've gotten, to say that they effectively replaced Schenn is absurd. To suggest that the Flyers offensive production wouldn't have been significantly higher if Schenn was in the lineup over any of those players is also absurd.

Schenn was not effectively replaced last season.

i've left Nucker and GiG in charge of these kinds of things for now. they're known to be pretty gentle.
- Mordecai

In the interim as you play TW3

Comparing the offensive output of the team from last season to the previous season is a badly flawed way of looking at it.

After we get past Giroux, Voracek, Konecny and Simmonds, the next highest point producer was Raffl who had 13 goals and 9 assists. Weal had 8 goals and 13 assists. Dale Weise had 4 goals and 4 assists. Lehtera produced 3 goals and 5 assists in 62 games. Lindblom who wasn't called up until later had 2 goals and 4 assists in 23 games. Whatever combination of players you want to use who took the ice time that Schenn would've gotten, to say that they effectively replaced Schenn is absurd. To suggest that the Flyers offensive production wouldn't have been significantly higher if Schenn was in the lineup over any of those players is also absurd.

Schenn was not effectively replaced last season.
- MJL

It is not flawed 1 bit, it's a team sport based off team production. You can't add a players production from a previous year or from another team on top of what the team actually did and declare increased production.

It's no different than someone who adds up all the player goals a roster scored the previous year and expect them to produce that same amount. Sports do not work that way. You will ALWAYS have players with fluctuating goal amounts year by year, but what is consistent is the WHOLE team's production.

It is not flawed 1 bit, it's a team sport based off team production. You can't add a players production from a previous year or from another team on top of what the team actually did and declare increased production.

It's no different than someone who adds up all the player goals a roster scored the previous year and expect them to produce that same amount. Sports do not work that way. You will ALWAYS have players with fluctuating goal amounts year by year, but what is consistent is the WHOLE team's production.
- Glak18

It is flawed because you are completely removing the production that a player like Schenn would have provided from the equation.

You're using the fluctuating point totals of Giroux and Couturier to replace Schenn's production. As if they wouldn't have done as well if Schenn had been in the lineup on a different line.

The only way to look at it is to look at the actual players who replaced Schenn in the lineup and see what they produced and how it compares to the likely production of Schenn. Giroux and Couturier were not one of those players who replaced Schenn in the lineup. That is exactly how sports works.

It is flawed because you are completely removing the production that a player like Schenn would have provided from the equation.

You're using the fluctuating point totals of Giroux and Couturier to replace Schenn's production. As if they wouldn't have done as well if Schenn had been in the lineup on a different line.

The only way to look at it is to look at the actual players who replaced Schenn in the lineup and see what they produced and how it compares to the likely production of Schenn. Giroux and Couturier were not one of those players who replaced Schenn in the lineup. That is exactly how sports works.
- MJL

Exactly! You want me to accept that Schenn would of no question increased production, but at the same time dismiss Schenn could of negatively impacted the Flyers production. Both situations are what if scenarios with no way to prove either. At least my argument is based on WHAT DID HAPPEN with facts to back it up.

So since you love what ifs. What if the Capitals traded Ovechkin for McDavid, Capitals score more, but you would say Washington never replaced Ovechkin's production? That's crazy.

Ask a Maple Leafs fan if they will be able to replace JvR's goal production, I mean who is their LW who is going to score 36 goals and 54 points that didn't play on the team last year?

UPDATE:
This refers to the last part.

There were 4 LWs who scored the same or more than JvR last year.
Alex Ovechkin
Anders Lee
Taylor Hall
Jamie Benn

So the only way to replace JvR for the Leafs is to trade for one of those 4 players, correct?

Day HB needs more Yen.

Day HB needs more Yen.
- Giroux_Is_God

Yennifer dies in the Witcher tv show

Exactly! You want me to accept that Schenn would of no question increased production, but at the same time dismiss Schenn could of negatively impacted the Flyers production. Both situations are what if scenarios with no way to prove either. At least my argument is based on WHAT DID HAPPEN with facts to back it up.


- Glak18

So you think I'm reaching to suggest that Schenn would've produced more offense than Weal, Weise, or any other player did in combination?

Explain to me how you think Schenn would've negatively impacted the Flyers production?

So since you love what ifs. What if the Capitals traded Ovechkin for McDavid, Capitals score more, but you would say Washington never replaced Ovechkin's production? That's crazy.


- Glak18

My premise is not a what if. The hypothetical you offer here is irrelevant and has zero bearing on the conversation.

Ask a Maple Leafs fan if they will be able to replace JvR's goal production, I mean who is their LW who is going to score 36 goals and 54 points that didn't play on the team last year?


- Glak18

We'll see what the players who actually replace him on the LW this upcoming season actually produce.

UPDATE:
This refers to the last part.

There were 4 LWs who scored the same or more than JvR last year.
Alex Ovechkin
Anders Lee
Taylor Hall
Jamie Benn

So the only way to replace JvR for the Leafs is to trade for one of those 4 players, correct?
- Glak18

In terms of offensive production the Leafs lost JVR but added Taveras.

There is no question that if the Leafs were able to add Taveras and keep JVR, their team offensive production would be higher than without JVR.

Who did the Flyers add to the team to offset the offensive production of Schenn?

What are yalls thoughts on Rick and Morty?

So you think I'm reaching to suggest that Schenn would've produced more offense than Weal, Weise, or any other player did in combination?

Explain to me how you think Schenn would've negatively impacted the Flyers production?
- MJL

Again I don't have an answer for the what if.

This is what I do know:
With Schenn: The Flyers production was 211, 212, 212 for the last 3 years he played for them.
Without Schenn: The team production increased to 249.

Schenn had many years to secure a top 6 spot and could not consistently secure one moving around the lineup. If he could, he would of stayed and been a productive player for the FLYERS.

1st year without Schenn: Production rose throughout the lineup, career years by Giroux, Voracek, Couturier and Konecny (not including defensemen).

Draw your own conclusion.

My premise is not a what if. The hypothetical you offer here is irrelevant and has zero bearing on the conversation.
- MJL

Yes, yes it is. Stating Schenn would of improved production because...."you just know" is exactly a what if scenario.

We'll see what the players who actually replace him on the LW this upcoming season actually produce.
- MJL

I guess we will. The criteria of replacing a player production has the following: Same position, same line(s) and meeting or exceeding the players production from the previous year. Do they have to have the same haircut too?

In terms of offensive production the Leafs lost JVR but added Taveras.
- MJL

But but but...Tavares doesn't play LW?

There is no question that if the Leafs were able to add Taveras and keep JVR, their team offensive production would be higher than without JVR.
- MJL

JvR stated in his press conference that Toronto told him they would not be re-signing him or try 2 weeks before the signing deadline. They were able to, they chose not to before signing JT.

What are yalls thoughts on Rick and Morty?
- bulet13

I don't find it funny at all, I try...really hard, but I just will not laugh.

What are yalls thoughts on Rick and Morty?
- bulet13

Justin Roiland is an bumhole and overall terrible human being. i like some of the earlier episodes but the overall fanbase of Rick and Morty are edgelords.

chutney: a spicy condiment made of fruits or vegetables with vinegar, spices, and sugar, originating in India
- Scoob

I make a delicious mint chutney. It doesn’t have fruit, vinegar or sugar. Is this still a chuntney? If JVR is mango chutney and B Schenn is mint chutney what does that make Hextall?

Justin Roiland is an bumhole and overall terrible human being. i like some of the earlier episodes but the overall fanbase of Rick and Morty are edgelords.
- Mordecai

Yes.

Still like the show though

I don't find it funny at all, I try...really hard, but I just will not laugh.
- Glak18

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎

Yennifer dies in the Witcher tv show
- Glak18

Not even out yet homie I'm not falling for this poop

Justin Roiland is an bumhole and overall terrible human being. i like some of the earlier episodes but the overall fanbase of Rick and Morty are edgelords.
- Mordecai

Alrighty

So you think I'm reaching to suggest that Schenn would've produced more offense than Weal, Weise, or any other player did in combination?

Explain to me how you think Schenn would've negatively impacted the Flyers production?



My premise is not a what if. The hypothetical you offer here is irrelevant and has zero bearing on the conversation.



We'll see what the players who actually replace him on the LW this upcoming season actually produce.



In terms of offensive production the Leafs lost JVR but added Taveras.

There is no question that if the Leafs were able to add Taveras and keep JVR, their team offensive production would be higher than without JVR.

Who did the Flyers add to the team to offset the offensive production of Schenn?
- MJL

Do you ever take stances that can be either proven or disproven?