bulet13
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Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX Joined: 03.10.2013
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I couldn't date a Rangers fan. - jmatchett383
She's a fake fan. She was born into an Islanders family and switched allegiances when she was older. But yeah it's my greatest shame for sure
She loves the NY Jets tho and no fanbase deserves to suffer that much so I let it slide lol |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Had they signed JVR right after they traded Schenn I'd buy that argument but they signed him after they increased all their goal totals from the season before so how is the signing of JVR in any way, shape, or form related to trading Schenn and not just because they saw a very good goal scorer on the open market and wanted to improve their team even more? - ajw12
JVR wasn't available to be signed right after they traded Schenn.
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Wow...is it time for a new blog? |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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I’d still like to know why you like Schenn so much SSB.
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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I don't think there is any question that a large part of the reasoning for signing JVR was to replace what they lost when they traded Schenn. If they didn't need to increase offensive production and what was lost was already replaced, why make the signing? - MJL
Answer: More depth and additional production.
Does the fact the Flyers team production increased over the 2 years not matter one bit? You can debate about whether Schenn would of, could of, should of made the team more productive all day long, but the fact is the team's production was higher without him...point blank better WITHOUT him.
There is no argument there, none. Schenn has absolutely no relation to the JvR signing. If they had to replace Schenn they would of last year, but why when they are scoring more? |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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I didn’t hate Brayden. Nor did I really like him as a player.
I despised Luke, but now I kind of hate both. Funny how that works.
Will always be a duster. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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I’d still like to know why you like Schenn so much SSB. - flyer_nutter
Well JoeG finally admitted he has friends of the family type of connection to the Schenns. Either SSB is JoeG or his son that never finished 7th grade. |
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BenderRodriguez
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Norristown, PA Joined: 01.19.2011
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Ok, I wanted an answer, but since you can not do a simple thing like explain what you consider "replacing production" is then I will go ahead.
First things first, invalid definition of "replaced production" is stating another player has to score the same amount to offset another players production and the players previously on the team do not count. That's just logic 101.
Secondly, this is a team sport. Players do not play or contribute individually for production. So how did the Flyers team produce during the last season WITH Brayden Schenn and the current season WITHOUT Brayden Schenn?
Flyers Season Production (Past 2 years)
17-18 Season
Goals For: 249 (+37)
PP Goals: 54 (0)
PP%: 20.7% (+1.2)
ES Goals: 192 (+38)
16-17 Season
Goals For: 212
PP Goals: 54
PP%: 19.5%
ES Goals: 154
Brayden Schenn
16-17 GP: 79 G: 25 PPG: 17 ESG: 8
As you can clearly see the Flyers increased OVERALL scoring production by 37. Fact.
Then you can clearly see the Flyers increase EVEN STRENGTH scoring production by 38. Fact.
Brayden Schenn produced 8 even strength goals out of his 25 which is 32%. Fact.
Now what about the power play production since Brayden Schenn led the team with 17 PPGs in 16-17 season?
Brayden Schenn scored 17 out of 25 goals on the PP, which is 68%.
Obviously the amount of power play goals were the same in both seasons at 54. Fact.
But the PP efficiency improved to 20.7%, an increase of 1.2%. Fact.
Not only was Schenn's production replaced, but it was increased substantially. Fact.
Now share YOUR opinion, I only share facts. - Glak18
Flagged for using facts that are devastating to SSBs argument.
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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If Brayden Schenn was a Beatle he'd be Pete Best. |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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Flagged for using facts that are devastating to SSBs argument. - BenderRodriguez
Once again, notice how he says "I clearly proved my point", yet not one post has shown up from him that states anything otherwise. All he has is Schenn is LW and JvR is LW. That's 100% all he said. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Well JoeG finally admitted he has friends of the family type of connection to the Schenns. Either SSB is JoeG or his son that never finished 7th grade. - Glak18
I’m just honestly curious. He was just very Vanilla to me. Had his little hot streaks of continuous effort but yeah. The points were there but he never really excited anyone did he? |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Answer: More depth and additional production.
Does the fact the Flyers team production increased over the 2 years not matter one bit? You can debate about whether Schenn would of, could of, should of made the team more productive all day long, but the fact is the team's production was higher without him...point blank better WITHOUT him.
There is no argument there, none. Schenn has absolutely no relation to the JvR signing. If they had to replace Schenn they would of last year, but why when they are scoring more? - Glak18
I think you're wrong. There absolutely is a correlation. The team's production increased last year due in large part to the seasons Giroux and Couturier had. Looking at it the way you want to a large part of that increase had to go to replacing Schenn's production before getting into the plus column from the previous season.
There absolutely is an argument. Are you seriously going to tell me that the Flyers offensive production wouldn't have been even higher if they had a 25 goal, 50+ point player in the lineup over players like Weal and Weise?
Hextall saw that the trade of Schenn left a hole on the Wing and rather than wait the 2-3 years it might take for a prospect to fill it, he used the available cap space to add a 35 goal winger. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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I’m just honestly curious. He was just very Vanilla to me. Had his little hot streaks of continuous effort but yeah. The points were there but he never really excited anyone did he? - flyer_nutter
Brayden Schenn is missionary postition. You'll still take it when you can get it. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Brayden Schenn is missionary postition. You'll still take it when you can get it. - hereticpride
The Dave Hakstol of positions. |
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bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX Joined: 03.10.2013
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I’m just honestly curious. He was just very Vanilla to me. Had his little hot streaks of continuous effort but yeah. The points were there but he never really excited anyone did he? - flyer_nutter
I liked him. Thought he got a bit of a raw deal being bounced around the lineup and him and coots showed good chemistry Everytime they played together but coots kept getting hurt. I was sad to see him go but the return was fantastic and looks even better now. I don't get the obsession for him honestly by some people but I also don't think he's as bad as people make him out to be. |
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bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX Joined: 03.10.2013
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Brayden Schenn is missionary postition. You'll still take it when you can get it. - hereticpride
This is the best comment ever made on this website. Shut the website down. We did it |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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The Dave Hakstol of positions. - flyer_nutter
Pfft. Hakstol is totally college experimentation sex.
And by experimentation I mean he likes to stick VandeVelde where he doesn't belong. |
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Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Should of studied Geometry Joined: 04.28.2013
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If Brayden Schenn was a Beatle he'd be Pete Bust. - hereticpride
fixed for accuracy. |
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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils |
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Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ Joined: 01.14.2011
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fixed for accuracy. - Doc_Sarcasm
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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I’m just honestly curious. He was just very Vanilla to me. Had his little hot streaks of continuous effort but yeah. The points were there but he never really excited anyone did he? - flyer_nutter
Honestly this whole discussion is like talking to an ex-girlfriend you break up with. Then find a new girl, get married and have kids and are the happiest you have ever been. Finally you run into the ex-gf and she tells you that you miss her and have never been the same since you broke up with her. You explain you are so happy and she tells you that you aren't. Some people just don't get it. |
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flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB Joined: 10.16.2008
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Honestly this whole discussion is like talking to an ex-girlfriend you break up with. Then find a new girl, get married and have kids and are the happiest you have ever been. Finally you run into the ex-gf and she tells you that you miss her and have never been the same since you broke up with her. You explain you are so happy and she tells you that you aren't. Some people just don't get it. - Glak18
Not for Nutter. Always the bridesmaid never the bride. |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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This is the best comment ever made on this website. Shut the website down. We did it - bulet13
lol
can't argue with that |
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bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX Joined: 03.10.2013
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Not for Nutter. Always the bridesmaid never the bride. - flyer_nutter
It could be because you're crazy |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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chutney: a spicy condiment made of fruits or vegetables with vinegar, spices, and sugar, originating in India |
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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA Joined: 06.26.2007
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I think you're wrong. There absolutely is a correlation. The team's production increased last year due in large part to the seasons Giroux and Couturier had. Looking at it the way you want to a large part of that increase had to go to replacing Schenn's production before getting into the plus column from the previous season.
There absolutely is an argument. Are you seriously going to tell me that the Flyers offensive production wouldn't have been even higher if they had a 25 goal, 50+ point player in the lineup over players like Weal and Weise?
Hextall saw that the trade of Schenn left a hole on the Wing and rather than wait the 2-3 years it might take for a prospect to fill it, he used the available cap space to add a 35 goal winger. - MJL
So if Oskar Lindblom started the year with the Flyers, scored 30 goals and had 75 points, but the Flyers scored 200 goals for the year then Lindblom replaces the production of Schenn?
I am not going to argue what if statements, the fact is the team scored more without him. Now if the Flyers scored less, you might have a valid point, but they didn't.
How about if the Flyers score 1 less goal than last year, does that mean they never replaced Matt Read? |
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