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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 26 @ 2:20 PM ET
Vishnu is overrated
- jmatchett383



She certainly has thicker skin...
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Jul 26 @ 2:21 PM ET
Vishnu is overrated
- jmatchett383

Vishnu with you?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:25 PM ET
10:22am this morning. This is just one of a couple but absolutely nobody was talking about this today.

What world do you live in, BiggE? I could not roll my eyes into the back of my head further right now. You’re just unbelievable.

- SuperSchennBros

Better to be unbelievable than a self righteous, whiny douche with an out of control martyr complex.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jul 26 @ 2:27 PM ET
So.....

What do we think the Flyers offer will be for that 2 year contract for Hagg?

I'm guessing somewhere between 1.4 and 1.6 aav.

- MBFlyerfan

Best guess, 1.5 followed by 1.75, aav 1.625
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
Better to be unbelievable than a self righteous, whiny douche with an out of control martyr complex.
- BiggE


Why can't you RESPECT his opinion!!!!

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
trying to prove you are right on the internet: overrated
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
So.....

What do we think the Flyers offer will be for that 2 year contract for Hagg?

I'm guessing somewhere between 1.4 and 1.6 aav.

- MBFlyerfan


I don’t think he’s quite earned that. My guess is 1-1.25
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 26 @ 2:46 PM ET
Internet Pro Tip:

Did you know when you type a comment ANYWHERE on the internet, you have the option to read what you are about to post before you hit submit?

Also did you know once you hit submit you have the option to read what you posted again and edit it if you communicate like a gerbil running across a keyboard?

Proper communication is the most underutilized tool a person can take advantage of when in a discussion. Everyone knows what they are thinking, it is the person's sole responsibility to express themselves in a way others can understand their thought process. There is no excuse for bad communication, whether you are on a cell phone, in a hurry or even the obligatory "I don't care" excuse.

If you type like an idiot, most likely you think like an idiot.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 26 @ 2:47 PM ET
Internet Pro Tip:

Did you know when you type a comment ANYWHERE on the internet, you have the option to read what you are about to post before you hit submit?

Also did you know once you hit submit you have the option to read what you posted again and edit it if you communicate like a gerbil running across a keyboard?

Proper communication is the most underutilized tool a person can take advantage of when in a discussion. Everyone knows what they are thinking, it is the person's sole responsibility to express themselves in a way others can understand their thought process. There is no excuse for bad communication, whether you are on a cell phone, in a hurry or even the obligatory "I don't care" excuse.

If you type like an idiot, most likely you think like an idiot.

- Glak18



Now we're reaching way out of scope and what is appropriate.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 26 @ 2:49 PM ET
I honestly hadn’t given much thought on what the hold up might be on Hagg’s contract until yesterday.

So in Hexy’s presser he says that the they are negotiating Hagg’s contract for a term of two years. Then when asked about the term on Simmond’s contract, Hexy says he doesn’t discuss contract negotiations. So this means?

Also I don’t understand how qualifying offers work. I thought the players have past the deadline to sign them. But yesterday it was reported that Hagg could still sign the qualifying offer, which I assume is only one year.

Then I started thinking about why this is still up in the air and remembered all of Hagg’s healthy scratches at the end of last season and into the playoffs.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jul 26 @ 2:50 PM ET
I think were looking at two years, 4.5M total and a 2.25 AAV.

Salary breakdown is 2M for 18/19, 2.5M for 19/20.

- MJL


I have to say I think this is definitely on the high end.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 26 @ 2:50 PM ET
Now we're reaching way out of scope and what is appropriate.
- MJL


Respect my opinion!
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 26 @ 2:56 PM ET
I honestly hadn’t given much thought on what the hold up might be on Hagg’s contract until yesterday.

So in Hexy’s presser he says that the they are negotiating Hagg’s contract for a term of two years. Then when asked about the term on Simmond’s contract, Hexy says he doesn’t discuss contract negotiations. So this means?

Also I don’t understand how qualifying offers work. I thought the players have past the deadline to sign them. But yesterday it was reported that Hagg could still sign the qualifying offer, which I assume is only one year.

Then I started thinking about why this is still up in the air and remembered all of Hagg’s healthy scratches at the end of last season and into the playoffs.

- NC Flyers Fan

I read this as Hexy and Hagg's agent agree on a two year term and are hammering out the dollars. If Hagg isn't happy with the dollars he can sign the qualifying offer and do this again next year.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 26 @ 3:04 PM ET
I read this as Hexy and Hagg's agent agree on a two year term and are hammering out the dollars. If Hagg isn't happy with the dollars he can sign the qualifying offer and do this again next year.
- FlyerFan16


And Hagg is a UFA after next season?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 26 @ 3:09 PM ET
Better to be unbelievable than a self righteous, whiny douche with an out of control martyr complex.
- BiggE


Would you quit personally attacking me?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 26 @ 3:10 PM ET
And Hagg is a UFA after next season?
- NC Flyers Fan


Hagg is currently 23 years old, a player must be 27 years or older OR have at least 7 years experience in the NHL to become a UFA. The only other possible way Hagg could become a UFA is if the Flyers do not present him with a qualifying offer.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 26 @ 3:10 PM ET
For the record, I don't really care if you or anyone thinks Jake, or G, or Jesus is overrated. I was just bored and nothing was happening in here. Unfortunately my slow time at work coincides with the mid summer hockey news doldrums. Just trying to keep myself entertained.
- Fryman4

Nobody should care if I think or anyone else thinks a certain player is overrated but my god, these guys cry like they just finished watching Titanic every time I give my opinion. You admitted you left the post, while others pretend it was never there and I’m just stirring the pot.

Does anyone remember when Jeremy Roenick went live on nbc during the intermission of a game and said he didn’t feel like Steve Mason was good enough to take the Flyers to the promised land? Buckets and buckets and buckets were filled with Flyers fan tears that day but that’s the MO around here. Nobody admits their hand in an argument. Just easy to blame someone else. Was JR right? I loved Steve Mason and I believed in him but I never took offense to that comment and fast forward to today, JR was probably right.

The martyr has spoken
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 26 @ 3:11 PM ET
Better to be unbelievable than a self righteous, whiny douche with an out of control martyr complex.
- BiggE

Great response BiggE, you totally got me. I’m rubber, you’re glue.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jul 26 @ 3:13 PM ET
Hagg is currently 23 years old, a player must be 27 years or older OR have at least 7 years experience in the NHL to become a UFA. The only other possible way Hagg could become a UFA is if the Flyers do not present him with a qualifying offer.
- Glak18


So he is still eligible to sign this years qualifying offer?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 26 @ 3:14 PM ET
I honestly hadn’t given much thought on what the hold up might be on Hagg’s contract until yesterday.

So in Hexy’s presser he says that the they are negotiating Hagg’s contract for a term of two years. Then when asked about the term on Simmond’s contract, Hexy says he doesn’t discuss contract negotiations. So this means?

Also I don’t understand how qualifying offers work. I thought the players have past the deadline to sign them. But yesterday it was reported that Hagg could still sign the qualifying offer, which I assume is only one year.

Then I started thinking about why this is still up in the air and remembered all of Hagg’s healthy scratches at the end of last season and into the playoffs.

- NC Flyers Fan


Most Gm’s get caught with their foot in the mouth at times. Hexy included
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 26 @ 3:15 PM ET

No more than 2 yrs 1.25 per for hagg
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 26 @ 3:16 PM ET
Nobody should care if I think or anyone else thinks a certain player is overrated but my god, these guys cry like they just finished watching Titanic every time I give my opinion. You admitted you left the post, while others pretend it was never there and I’m just stirring the pot.

Does anyone remember when Jeremy Roenick went live on nbc during the intermission of a game and said he didn’t feel like Steve Mason was good enough to take the Flyers to the promised land? Buckets and buckets and buckets were filled with Flyers fan tears that day but that’s the MO around here. Nobody admits their hand in an argument. Just easy to blame someone else. Was JR right? I loved Steve Mason and I believed in him but I never took offense to that comment and fast forward to today, JR was probably right.

The martyr has spoken

- SuperSchennBros


Ever notice you always cry about YOUR opinion? Why is YOUR opinion more valid than someone else? Have you always been a self-absorbed crybaby?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
No more than 2 yrs 1.25 per for hagg
- Just5

what was his QO?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 26 @ 3:18 PM ET
Great response BiggE, you totally got me. I’m rubber, you’re glue.
- SuperSchennBros




I leave it to the viewer to decide who is who.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jul 26 @ 3:19 PM ET
Ever notice you always cry about YOUR opinion? Why is YOUR opinion more valid than someone else? Have you always been a self-absorbed crybaby?
- Glak18

Let me get this right. I cried because I said Jake Voracek is overrated?!
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