IF I ever use Tanner as a source to back up ANY argument I ever make, I will delete my account. Quote me on that.


I swear on behalf of my groin region I will not Alfie this agreement at any time.

*pinky swear*
- Glak18

Anyone who doesn't say Toronto is biased, likely because they're Leaf haters. Malkin and Crosby won a cup without Letang and with patchwork defense. Toronto has cut some two way liabilities in Komarov (good defensively and abysmal in the offensive zone) and JVR (who hasn't back checked in his entire career) from their team, added a near 90 point player (from a dumpster fire team) for only cap dollars and who happens to be one of the best two way pivots in the league. These Leafs will win their way through the season 6-5 if they have to, but they'll get it done. That pick-your-poison trio of Tavares, Matthews and Kadri are going to give the opposition fits every night. Not to mention that the addition of Johnsson full time adds a very skilled and speedy winger to the third or fourth line instantly making them deeper than if they kept Komarov. Kapanen should continue to develop nicely with more ice time and if Ozhiganov makes the team out of camp, you won't see as many poor clearing attempts like you did with Polak. Gardiner is who worries me the most with his careless play. But every team has at least one liability. If ours is a 50+ point defenseman, it reaaaally could be worse. Also, don't kid yourself. Vasy is not as good as Andersen. Tampa's D makes him look like a superstar. He's good, but not as good as Andersen. I'm excited to see this new Leafs team in action. Mostly so the Leafs haters can eat a big piece of humble pie.

Consider this if you will.. The Leafs COULD have anywhere between 2-4 100 point players on their roster this year. Any one of Matthews, Marner, Tavares or Nylander can hit that mark with the opposing teams flipping a coin on who to use their shutdown line against.
- Snowman X

Ohhh man you really are living a dream over there in laffland hey bud? 2-4 100 point players, damn that would be impressive.

Nylander - 61 points
Marner - 69 points
Tavares - 86 points 4 friggen years ago
Matthews - 69 points

Those are their career highs. These kids have not even sniffed 70 points in a year and buddy has them pegged for 100+ points. Classic Leafs

I agree, it's most likely a troll. It has to be.

HE QUOTED TANNER FFS.
- Scabeh

I think Tanner started off legit, whether people agreed or not. For the last year or so, he has been flat out trolling with his stupid statements. Even his arrogance is feigned.

It is tough to respect a blogger than feels the need to sink that low for hits

Ohhh man you really are living a dream over there in laffland hey bud? 2-4 100 point players, damn that would be impressive.

Nylander - 61 points
Marner - 69 points
Tavares - 86 points 4 friggen years ago
Matthews - 69 points

Those are their career highs. These kids have not even sniffed 70 points in a year and buddy has them pegged for 100+ points. Classic Leafs
- Leichs

And therrrrre's the troll pay-off.

Congratulations for being dim enough to buy into his act.

I think Tanner started off legit, whether people agreed or not. For the last year or so, he has been flat out trolling with his stupid statements. Even his arrogance is a troll.

It is tough to respect a blogger than feels the need to sink that low for hits
- Aetherial

Yeah I bet Tanner is the complete opposite in real life and admits he is wrong even when he's not so it doesn't create a confrontation.

... pretty sure this is a troll from another fanbase trying to stir up poop. I have never seen a Leafs fan, on the Leafs threads with any opinions similar to this.
- Aetherial

Dont ruin my fun

Yeah I bet Tanner is the complete opposite in real life and admits he is wrong even when he's not so it doesn't create a confrontation.
- Glak18

It's too bad. His blogs used to at least be entertaining, but he took the schtick a couple steps too far and it became just stupid. It used to be just his use of advanced stats was ridiculous... then he started talking about how great Jake Gardiner was, and it all went downhill.

... not to mention that you can't debate with him because he simply refuses to acknowledge any crystal clear point you make.

Dont ruin my fun
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Crosby > Matthews/Tavares
Geno > Matthews/Tavares
Brassard Sheahan> Whoever they throw out there

So you may have a better 3rd line center but not by a huge margin if any. Your logic seems a bit NUTTY to me sir.
- Mino42

Crosby and Malkin > Matthews/Tavares - no one can seriously argue this.
Kadri though, destroys Sheahan, and it's not even close - not sure how you can say "not by a huge margin"...yes, it's by a HUGE margin.

Like the ones Tampa had to hand out to Stamkos, Hedman, Kucherov and McDounagh? hmm.. wonder how Toronto will manage that...
- Snowman X

Exactly. That was my point. And Tampa catches flak for being up against the cap and having a few questionable contracts. The Leafs are going to be in the same spot soon. I am not saying that is a bad problem to have. It was the other poster who tried to flaunt the Leafs currently available cap space as a way to bring in even more outside talent to the roster. That is not true in practice. They are going to need almost every penny of that to keep all of that elite talent they drafted.

If the Leafs go on a spending spree at the deadline, they are going to be a tougher spot later - of course, all of that means jack squat if Tavares can help the Leafs bring home the Cup. If not, you end up in Tampa land - tantalizingly close with a roster full of talent, yet always the bridesmaid.

but JvR just stood in front of the net, he doesn't matter. He is an addition by subtracting because of defense and stuff, but Toronto just lost offense...soooo where was I?

Anyway, you stoopid.
- Glak18

LOL - the funny thing is you are 100% right. JVR is effective in one spot on the ice...in front of the net. And defensively (not offensively) he is addition by subtraction - every Leaf fan knows this....Philly fans will find out this upcoming season.
Still, he will put in 30+ goals, so there is a sliver lining.

I agree, it's most likely a troll. It has to be.

HE QUOTED TANNER FFS.
- Scabeh

Tanner quote definitely gave him away.....don't feed the trolls.

Crosby and Malkin > Matthews/Tavares - no one can seriously argue this.
Kadri though, destroys Sheahan, and it's not even close - not sure how you can say "not by a huge margin"...yes, it's by a HUGE margin.
- Cooshie

I put Kadri being better than Brassard and I'm not sure why his name didn't show up. Sheahan is better than any 4th line center that the Leaf's have is what I was saying there.

I mean, Tavares only scored three more goals than JVR last year.. Who you subtracted. It was the second most goals hes ever scored.
- Leichs

By this silly logic, McDavid only scored 5 more goals than JvR....so I guess that makes them pretty even?
Like your silly comparison of Tavares and JvR....

Dude, seriously?? Even Leaf haters know that Tavares is a MASSIVE upgrade over JVR....and that guy you were replying to us not a Leaf fan...just a troll.

LOL - the funny thing is you are 100% right. JVR is effective in one spot on the ice...in front of the net. And defensively (not offensively) he is addition by subtraction - every Leaf fan knows this....Philly fans will find out this upcoming season.
Still, he will put in 30+ goals, so there is a sliver lining.
- Cooshie

I believe, could be wrong, JvR had exactly 3 goals scored outside the dots. He either scored on rebounds or deflections. The ones who will miss him the most are probably Rielly and Gardiner for adding to their assist numbers.

If he can do the same thing for the Flyers for 30+ goals, I think everyone will be happy. If he is weak defensively, the Flyers have plenty of players in the top 6 that can cover that up, but I also see his assist total increasing playing with others who can put it in the net.

Anyone who doesn't say Toronto is biased, likely because they're Leaf haters. Malkin and Crosby won a cup without Letang and with patchwork defense. Toronto has cut some two way liabilities in Komarov (good defensively and abysmal in the offensive zone) and JVR (who hasn't back checked in his entire career) from their team, added a near 90 point player (from a dumpster fire team) for only cap dollars and who happens to be one of the best two way pivots in the league. These Leafs will win their way through the season 6-5 if they have to, but they'll get it done. That pick-your-poison trio of Tavares, Matthews and Kadri are going to give the opposition fits every night. Not to mention that the addition of Johnsson full time adds a very skilled and speedy winger to the third or fourth line instantly making them deeper than if they kept Komarov. Kapanen should continue to develop nicely with more ice time and if Ozhiganov makes the team out of camp, you won't see as many poor clearing attempts like you did with Polak. Gardiner is who worries me the most with his careless play. But every team has at least one liability. If ours is a 50+ point defenseman, it reaaaally could be worse. Also, don't kid yourself. Vasy is not as good as Andersen. Tampa's D makes him look like a superstar. He's good, but not as good as Andersen. I'm excited to see this new Leafs team in action. Mostly so the Leafs haters can eat a big piece of humble pie.

Consider this if you will.. The Leafs COULD have anywhere between 2-4 100 point players on their roster this year. Any one of Matthews, Marner, Tavares or Nylander can hit that mark with the opposing teams flipping a coin on who to use their shutdown line against.
- Snowman X

Odd...I didn't think I was a Leaf hater....
Going back to the last 2 years games head to head between the two teams, the bolts are clearly better. Last few games between them TB seemed at a whole other level. That said, the Leafs do have a weird ability to be completely outplayed, onty to suddenly explode for 3-4 goals out of nowhere. Sadly, this tends to dry up in the playoffs.
I wouldn't be surprised if Toronto finishes ahead of TB in the regular season, but I still think TB is a better playoffall around team.
Add a couple of decent (even Hainsey quality) defenders, and I might change my mind.

Ohhh man you really are living a dream over there in laffland hey bud? 2-4 100 point players, damn that would be impressive.

Nylander - 61 points
Marner - 69 points
Tavares - 86 points 4 friggen years ago
Matthews - 69 points

Those are their career highs. These kids have not even sniffed 70 points in a year and buddy has them pegged for 100+ points. Classic Leafs
- Leichs

This guy is feeding the Trolls....Mmmmmmm

lol at the leafs fans that think their roster is better than Tampa's
- SimpleJack

Fan, not fans. So far a grand total of one person has suggested this, while every other poster has said TB.
Learn to (frank)ing count.

I believe, could be wrong, JvR had exactly 3 goals scored outside the dots. He either scored on rebounds or deflections. The ones who will miss him the most are probably Rielly and Gardiner for adding to their assist numbers.

If he can do the same thing for the Flyers for 30+ goals, I think everyone will be happy. If he is weak defensively, the Flyers have plenty of players in the top 6 that can cover that up, but I also see his assist total increasing playing with others who can put it in the net.
- Glak18

Hey, it's like I said....he is going to score goals and for sure will bolster defense numbers (Rielly and Gardiner will miss him for those stats for sure). Big body that is hard to move in front of the net - gobbling up those rebounds.
Defensively, doesn't matter who is on the ice, he is going to burn you - he just does NOTHING. Babcock had enough and he lost ice time because of it.

Fan, not fans. So far a grand total of one person has suggested this, while every other poster has said TB.
Learn to (frank)ing count.
- oldstyle

LOL - doesn't matter.....as long as one Fan said it...it may well have been every Leaf!

By the way, that guy is a troll and no Leaf fan!

Anyone who doesn't say Toronto is biased, likely because they're Leaf haters. Malkin and Crosby won a cup without Letang and with patchwork defense. Toronto has cut some two way liabilities in Komarov (good defensively and abysmal in the offensive zone) and JVR (who hasn't back checked in his entire career) from their team, added a near 90 point player (from a dumpster fire team) for only cap dollars and who happens to be one of the best two way pivots in the league. These Leafs will win their way through the season 6-5 if they have to, but they'll get it done. That pick-your-poison trio of Tavares, Matthews and Kadri are going to give the opposition fits every night. Not to mention that the addition of Johnsson full time adds a very skilled and speedy winger to the third or fourth line instantly making them deeper than if they kept Komarov. Kapanen should continue to develop nicely with more ice time and if Ozhiganov makes the team out of camp, you won't see as many poor clearing attempts like you did with Polak. Gardiner is who worries me the most with his careless play. But every team has at least one liability. If ours is a 50+ point defenseman, it reaaaally could be worse. Also, don't kid yourself. Vasy is not as good as Andersen. Tampa's D makes him look like a superstar. He's good, but not as good as Andersen. I'm excited to see this new Leafs team in action. Mostly so the Leafs haters can eat a big piece of humble pie.

Consider this if you will.. The Leafs COULD have anywhere between 2-4 100 point players on their roster this year. Any one of Matthews, Marner, Tavares or Nylander can hit that mark with the opposing teams flipping a coin on who to use their shutdown line against.
- Snowman X

An opening sentence decrying the anti-leaf bias of others, followed by a rambling rant filled with nothing but your own extremely biased Leaf opinions. Lmao, That was awesome! Especially the part about the haters needing some humble pie...

Not an alt. Just joined a few weeks back. Been a casual reader for 4 or 5 years. If I was a troll I'd have said the Leafs will hit 120 points, win the cup and Matthews would have 75 goals.

I'm gone from this convo. We'll see what happens this season. Legit though, I'm predicting Toronto to finish 1st in the East.

Hey, it's like I said....he is going to score goals and for sure will bolster defense numbers (Rielly and Gardiner will miss him for those stats for sure). Big body that is hard to move in front of the net - gobbling up those rebounds.
Defensively, doesn't matter who is on the ice, he is going to burn you - he just does NOTHING. Babcock had enough and he lost ice time because of it.
- Cooshie

Only thing that scares me is thinking he could become Bobby Ryan-lite...me no likey that.

Not an alt. Just joined a few weeks back. Been a casual reader for 4 or 5 years. If I was a troll I'd have said the Leafs will hit 120 points, win the cup and Matthews would have 75 goals.

I'm gone from this convo. We'll see what happens this season. Legit though, I'm predicting Toronto to finish 1st in the East.
- Snowman X

Only thing that scares me is thinking he could become Bobby Ryan-lite...me no likey that.
- Glak18

Meh I doubt that, JVR rarely ever gets injured. So no need to worry there.