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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 10:32 PM ET
If FA was smart the rebuild would be half over not just starting.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I fully endorse this message 👍👍
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jul 25 @ 10:33 PM ET
Farhan seems to think Trev wanted the rebuild done properly and wasn't willing to put his name on what was happening.
- VANTEL


Trevors looking over at Toronto and going "Hmmm, Should have done it that way"

So, the crossroads today are, Do you start over and push back really competing another 3-4 years?, or plough ahead as is and probably top out as a mid cardish type team?

Either way, he looks bad so he split now
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 10:40 PM ET
Trevors looking over at Toronto and going "Hmmm, Should have done it that way"

So, the crossroads today are, Do you start over and push back really competing another 3-4 years?, or plough ahead as is and probably top out as a mid cardish type team?

Either way, he looks bad so he split now

- RoloTahmasee


Burdened with an aging team of NMC/NTC’s. Leafs are not a factor & done nothing to date that says otherwise. Win AM is not genius. Whining about PO format is funny. What is start over? We are at the beginning already geez 😂😂
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:42 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/vi...ot-see-eye-to-eye~1427149

Farhn on Linden
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:42 PM ET
COMPETE

WHO said PO’s every year? Just you.
Compete means not be door mats & allow the team to be built from drafting. Stop gaps are not in the way nor were. LE was most likely FA dreaming it was an instant panacea. Bottom 5 the past years was going to happen. Not easy to out suck those teams that came in last & the lottery guarantees nothing if you’d payed attention. We still draft well & time is on our side & the latest UFA signings are not stopping prospects making the team nor anchors on the cap in any which way.

- Nighthawk


All i could picture while reading this is the slow motion twirling of colorful pom poms in regards to your excuse for the free agent signings. Burmistrov, gagner, del zotto, megna, skille, they all made sure we werent a "door matt" didnt they. And its hard to "allow the team to be built with drafting" when several of those "stop gaps" were literally acquired with picks...

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/did-linden-and-ownership-not-see-eye-to-eye~1427149

Farhn on Linden

- VANTEL

horse face
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
COMPETE

WHO said PO’s every year? Just you.
Compete means not be door mats & allow the team to be built from drafting. Stop gaps are not in the way nor were. LE was most likely FA dreaming it was an instant panacea. Bottom 5 the past years was going to happen. Not easy to out suck those teams that came in last & the lottery guarantees nothing if you’d payed attention. We still draft well & time is on our side & the latest UFA signings are not stopping prospects making the team nor anchors on the cap in any which way.

- Nighthawk

To be fair, the Canucks have been door mats. Worst team in the league over the last three years.

Drafting has been ok. Some hits, some misses, like every team in the league. Just not enough draft picks.

Drafting isn't an exact science as I'm sure you're well aware. That's why you need as many draft picks as possible, to increase your chances. If you miss on a pick (Virtanen) you have a chance to make up for it ( Boeser). The management (or owner) seem reluctant to really embrace a full rebuild. Kind of going half way. That puts more pressure on hitting every draft pick which no GM or scouting staff in the league can do.

While being door mats for the previous 3 years, you could've/should've come out on the other side with more than Pettersson and Hughes (obviously neither have played yet but should be good).

Why sign Garner, Del Zotto, Burmistrov and Weird Cock if you aren't gonna play em and flip em?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:47 PM ET
To be fair, the Canucks have been door mats. Worst team in the league over the last three years.

Drafting has been ok. Some hits, some misses, like every team in the league. Just not enough draft picks.

Drafting isn't an exact science as I'm sure you're well aware. That's why you need as many draft picks as possible, to increase your chances. If you miss on a pick (Virtanen) you have a chance to make up for it ( Boeser). The management (or owner) seem reluctant to really embrace a full rebuild. Kind of going half way. That puts more pressure on hitting every draft pick which no GM or scouting staff in the league can do.

While being door mats for the previous 3 years, you could've/should've come out on the other side with more than Pettersson and Hughes (obviously neither have played yet but should be good).

Why sign Garner, Del Ditto, Burmistrov and Weird Cock if you aren't gonna play em and flip em?

- walshyleafsfan


I hate to agree with you, but this is exactly right.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:50 PM ET
I hate to agree with you, but this is exactly right.
- Codes1087

Why do you hate to agree with me?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:51 PM ET
Why do you hate to agree with me?
- walshyleafsfan


Cause youre a leaf fan and i dislike you by default obviously
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:51 PM ET
horse face
- A_SteamingLombardi

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walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:53 PM ET
Cause youre a leaf fan and i dislike you by default obviously
- Codes1087

Truth be told, the fanbases are very similar. Everything I've read over the last while here, mimics the Leafs boards from 2010-2015 ish
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:54 PM ET
To be fair, the Canucks have been door mats. Worst team in the league over the last three years.

Drafting has been ok. Some hits, some misses, like every team in the league. Just not enough draft picks.

Drafting isn't an exact science as I'm sure you're well aware. That's why you need as many draft picks as possible, to increase your chances. If you miss on a pick (Virtanen) you have a chance to make up for it ( Boeser). The management (or owner) seem reluctant to really embrace a full rebuild. Kind of going half way. That puts more pressure on hitting every draft pick which no GM or scouting staff in the league can do.

While being door mats for the previous 3 years, you could've/should've come out on the other side with more than Pettersson and Hughes (obviously neither have played yet but should be good).

Why sign Garner, Del Zotto, Burmistrov and Weird Cock if you aren't gonna play em and flip em?

- walshyleafsfan


This is crap

You take chances on guys like Butmistrov Weirchioch because if they turn out and they only costed you a million then you come out looking like a genius . Low risk high reward. Leafs are the master of trying to shop at the five and dime stores for a bargain and overpaying free agents that didn't turn out.

What is wrong with the Virtanen pick ? He has been improving every year and unlike your draft pick of the same year , ours may still be with us after two more years.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:55 PM ET
Truth be told, the fanbases are very similar. Everything I've read over the last while here, mimics the Leafs boards from 2010-2015 ish
- walshyleafsfan


Despite your logic, the fact that you are here the same night a management person leaves, questions why you are truly here. To try and rub salt, or just coincidence that you picked tonight to come discuss hockey in here lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 10:56 PM ET
Truth be told, the fanbases are very similar. Everything I've read over the last while here, mimics the Leafs boards from 2010-2015 ish
- walshyleafsfan


I’m no Leaf fan thats for sure. Yes the fan bases are similar but Leaf fans are more knowledgable than most of ours i hate to say. Biggest issue is EST fans are generally clueless of whats going on in 1/2 of the NHL. Reading & not watching is the issue.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 25 @ 10:57 PM ET
This is crap

You take chances on guys like Butmistrov Weirchioch because if they turn out and they only costed you a million then you come out looking like a genius . Low risk high reward. Leafs are the master of trying to shop at the five and dime stores for a bargain and overpaying free agents that didn't turn out.

What is wrong with the Virtanen pick ? He has been improving every year and unlike your draft pick of the same year , ours may still be with us after two more years.

- VANTEL

Yeah but the Leafs have better garage sales that actually make them money.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 10:58 PM ET
Despite your logic, the fact that you are here the same night a management person leaves, questions why you are truly here. To try and rub salt, or just coincidence that you picked tonight to come discuss hockey in here lol
- Codes1087

Why would I be here to rub salt in the wound of Linden leaving? Surely that doesn't upset you guys. He was bloody awful. It's honestly a good day for you. If you hire a proper management team,you're laughing.

I don't think Leafs fans would've been upset when Nucks fans came in the day Nonuts was fired.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
Why would I be here to rub salt in the wound of Linden leaving? Surely that doesn't upset you guys. He was bloody awful. It's honestly a good day for you. If you hire a proper management team,you're laughing.

I don't think Leafs fans would've been upset when Nucks fans came in the day Nonuts was fired.

- walshyleafsfan


If you knew me, you would know im not losing sleep over linden leaving at all. Im quite happy
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 25 @ 10:59 PM ET
Yeah but the Leafs have better garage sales that actually make them money.
- A_SteamingLombardi



That is because soon as you put on Leaf jersey you are automatically put on a HOF ballot .
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 25 @ 11:00 PM ET
If FA was smart the rebuild would be half over not just starting.
- A_SteamingLombardi


How confident are you it's starting? Could just be plan B for the retool....
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Jul 25 @ 11:02 PM ET
This is crap

You take chances on guys like Butmistrov Weirchioch because if they turn out and they only costed you a million then you come out looking like a genius . Low risk high reward. Leafs are the master of trying to shop at the five and dime stores for a bargain and overpaying free agents that didn't turn out.

What is wrong with the Virtanen pick ? He has been improving every year and unlike your draft pick of the same year , ours may still be with us after two more years.

- VANTEL

Why is everything a Nucks vs Leafs thing with you? You don't take a chance on Burmistrov unless you truly lack talent evaluation abilities. You pick him up, play the poop out of him in manipulated or sheltered situations and you hope someone is stupid enough to offer you a 3rd pick for him. Same with Gagner .

For the Virtanen pick, let's not get into the for all our sakes. I just think it was a missed pick is all. And I can guarantee your draft pick will still be with you in two years
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 25 @ 11:04 PM ET
To be fair, the Canucks have been door mats. Worst team in the league over the last three years.

Drafting has been ok. Some hits, some misses, like every team in the league. Just not enough draft picks.

Drafting isn't an exact science as I'm sure you're well aware. That's why you need as many draft picks as possible, to increase your chances. If you miss on a pick (Virtanen) you have a chance to make up for it ( Boeser). The management (or owner) seem reluctant to really embrace a full rebuild. Kind of going half way. That puts more pressure on hitting every draft pick which no GM or scouting staff in the league can do.

While being door mats for the previous 3 years, you could've/should've come out on the other side with more than Pettersson and Hughes (obviously neither have played yet but should be good).

Why sign Garner, Del Zotto, Burmistrov and Weird Cock if you aren't gonna play em and flip em?

- walshyleafsfan



IMO each season has 15 door matts.
Who is out of the PO’s running before Xmas are the usual same perennial crap teams with maybe 1 team trying to out suck them all. 1oa is no guarantee.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 25 @ 11:04 PM ET
That is because soon as you put on Leaf jersey you are automatically put on a HOF ballot .
- VANTEL

Ahh I see.


Anyone want to buy Kennedy's golf clubs?


A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 25 @ 11:07 PM ET
How confident are you it's starting? Could just be plan B for the retool....
- belcherbd

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 25 @ 11:07 PM ET
Why is everything a Nucks vs Leafs thing with you? You don't take a chance on Burmistrov unless you truly lack talent evaluation abilities. You pick him up, play the poop out of him in manipulated or sheltered situations and you hope someone is stupid enough to offer you a 3rd pick for him. Same with Gagner .

For the Virtanen pick, let's not get into the for all our sakes. I just think it was a missed pick is all

- walshyleafsfan



As I pointed out the other day it is not me and a Leaf thing or me and a Flames thing so get over yourself.

How many Hab Oilers fans come in here or TB pr any other team? They don't come here so I don't discuss their teams.

The Leafs have been the armpit of the NHL for a decade and now after two years they are Gods gift to hockey. I got news for you they won't win the cup this year or next.
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